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On 6 Nov, 15:04, Neil Williams wrote:
It is a fact that a 4x4 causes no more of a traffic jam than a normally-sized car. *A Land Rover Defender SWB, for instance, is as I recall shorter and narrower then a Vauxhall Corsa. Unfortunately a Land Rover Defender SWB is not representative of the 4x4 vehicles you see on the streets of London. Most 4x4 vehicles, people carriers and other similar vehicles are that bit wider, longer and higher and make a significant difference to other road users - when parking, turning out of junctions, trying to move around in queues, passing on narrow roads with parked cars. The other frequent problem with these* is tinted windows that are too dark to see through properly, so you can't make eye contact and you can't see through to the other end/side. * I know it's not only these types of vehicle that get tinted windows, but it seems more likely - so that you can't see the little darlings in the back, or can't see the £10,000 Rolex on the driver's wrist (stereotypical but fairly tru-ish example reasons) |
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Adrian wrote:
gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: The other frequent problem with these* is tinted windows that are too dark to see through properly, so you can't make eye contact and you can't see through to the other end/side. There ought to be a law against front windows being darker than, ooh, about 70% VLT... If TPTB were really serious about it, they could enforce it by giving plod cool little hand-held light transmission doofers, so that if they suspect somebody's got windows too dark they can serve a vehicle prohibition notice and get it off the road until the tint's been removed. They could even put legislation in place that the installer of the tint or seller of the vehicle could be prosecuted. Nah, it'll never happen. Oh, wait, what was that? Damn near five years ago? http://www.window-tinting.net/thelaw.html At least 23 years ago and possibly well before that :- "Tinted Windows [......] For motor vehicles first registered before 1 April 1985 the windscreen and front side windows must allow at least 70% of light to be transmitted through them. [.......]" [VOSA press release 21 Sep 2004 - VOSA now have powers to stop motorists] |
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On 6 Nov, 15:32, wrote:
On 6 Nov, 15:04, Neil *Williams wrote: It is a fact that a 4x4 causes no more of a traffic jam than a normally-sized car. *A Land Rover Defender SWB, for instance, is as I recall shorter and narrower then a Vauxhall Corsa. Unfortunately a Land Rover Defender SWB is not representative of the 4x4 vehicles you see on the streets of London. Most 4x4 vehicles, people carriers and other similar vehicles are that bit wider, longer and higher and make a significant difference to other road users - when parking, turning out of junctions, trying to move around in queues, passing on narrow roads with parked cars. The other frequent problem with these* is tinted windows that are too dark to see through properly, so you can't make eye contact and you can't see through to the other end/side. And for cyclists, you can't easily see over these cars to anticipate what's coming ahead. |
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disgoftunwells gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying: And for cyclists, you can't easily see over these cars to anticipate what's coming ahead. Perhaps you shouldn't be sat so close behind them? I mean, it's not as if vans/trucks/buses are any easier to see through/round/over than an SUV, is it? |
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On 7 Nov, 11:29, Adrian wrote:
Perhaps you shouldn't be sat so close behind them? I mean, it's not as if vans/trucks/buses are any easier to see through/round/over than an SUV, is it? Which is rather my point. If it is the mere size of 4x4s that is the issue for congestion, not the pollution they may emit (that a small, low sports car may also do), then this should apply to all vehicles of that size, even electric vans. The real objection I have to Ken's latest iteration of the Congestion Charge is that it became a personal vendetta against the 4x4. Not against large vehicles, not against polluting vehicles, but specifically against the 4x4. Personal vendettas in politics are never good, which is probably why I don't like the idea of mayors anyway (and why I prefer parliamentary rather than presidential democracy). No, incidentally, I do not own a 4x4, and even if I did I wouldn't be wanting to drive it in London. Boris is as bad for his personal vendetta against the bendy bus. There are routes in London where they aren't appropriate, of course, but there are routes (the 73, the Red Arrows) where they are *very* appropriate and do the job vastly better than any Routemaster ever did. Neil |
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