On 14 Dec, 20:50, Mizter T wrote:
On 14 Dec, 20:08, (Neil Williams)
wrote:

On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:56:11 -0800 (PST), Mizter T

wrote:
Er Watford Junction is outside the London zones so a Travelcard is not
valid to travel there (a Travelcard plus boundary extension ticket
would be valid though). A Travelcard issued *from* Watford Junction is
valid for a single return journey from WJ into the zones - but then so
is a Travelcard issued *from* Milton Keynes (I presume such things
exist).

They do indeed, I have one right next to me. *Just as they do from
every other ex-NSE station.

I thought it most unlikely that they didn't exist from MKC!



That said, given that Watford Jn is now in "Zone 9", the same as
Watford Met, does there exist a 1-9 ODTC that might also be valid (on
LM as well?) as well as the normal outboundary Travelcard which is
effectively a 1-6 plus a CDR?

Watford Junction is definitively *not* in zone 9 - see the Tube map:http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...d-Tube-map.gif

Internally TfL refers to Watford Jn as being in "zone W" for fares
purposes, though not in any customer facing information. "Zone W" was
seemingly created for the purpose of implementing Oyster PAYG to and
from the station.

There is a table buried in an annexe to a TfL Board meeting which
details all the PAYG fares and associated caps - and there are caps
that apply to "zone W" as well. The table makes clear that other fares
such as Travelcards, CDRs etc are set by LM (though presumably LM will
have some input into the zone W fares - though perhaps they didn't at
first given that they weren't accepting Oyster PAYG it for the first
week before they caved in). Point being, Travelcards to and from
Watford Jn are LM's baby - they get to set the price, and I assume
they'll guard that jealously.

Aside from that issue, yes there is now such a thing as a zones 1-9
Day Travelcard.

Although for a National Rail issued travelcard, to get all zones
including zones 7, 8 and 9 you need to have it issued from a station
in zone 7, 8 or 9 - e.g. Hatch End, Carpenders Park, Bushey, Watford
High Street, Amersham, Chalfont & Latimer, Rickmansworth or
Chorleywood. You get a R1256 travelcard also valid at R789.

London Underground obviously issue a R1-9 travelcard on request.

Travelcards issued at Watford Junction and Great Missenden and points
north west only have R1256 availability (and less for season tickets
as requested (e.g. R56 etc)).

Jonathan