Is there a day return train ticket to Brighton...
 

....which lets me depart from Victoria but allows me to return to Clapham
Junction.

Personally I would have thought that a normal return ticket from
Victoria should be enough as, I thought, breaks of journey are allowed.
But I tried this before, the Clapham Junction barriers rejected me, and
the person at the gate let me through but told me it was not allowed and
not to do it again.

As I will be doing this journey again shortly, just using a cheap day
return or whatever they are called these days, is there an official or
hassle free way of doing this?

Thanks.

Is there a day return train ticket to Brighton...
 

On Feb 17, 12:08*pm, Michael wrote:
...which lets me depart from Victoria but allows me to return to Clapham
Junction.

Personally I would have thought that a normal return ticket from
Victoria should be enough as, I thought, breaks of journey are allowed. *
But I tried this before, the Clapham Junction barriers rejected me, and
the person at the gate let me through but told me it was not allowed and
not to do it again.

As I will be doing this journey again shortly, just using a cheap day
return or whatever they are called these days, is there an official or
hassle free way of doing this?

Thanks.

The barriers will reject your ticket, as they aren't clever enough to
know all permitted routes, only the end points on your ticket.

The rules changed recently: I believe break of journey is allowed on
any ticket now (I may be wrong, but I think that is the case), in
which case there is no issue. Alternatively, just ask to pop out to
the shop/cash point/ticket office/whatever, and "forget" to go back...

PhilD

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Is there a day return train ticket to Brighton...
 

Michael wrote:
...which lets me depart from Victoria but allows me to return to
Clapham Junction.

Personally I would have thought that a normal return ticket from
Victoria should be enough as, I thought, breaks of journey are
allowed. But I tried this before, the Clapham Junction barriers
rejected me, and the person at the gate let me through but told me it
was not allowed and not to do it again.

They are definitely wrong for an 'anytime' day - break of journey, and
starting or stopping short, is allowed on outward or return legs. The
published T&C are available he

http://nationalrail.co.uk/times_fare...onditions.html

"You may start, break and resume, or end your journey at any intermediate
station along the route of travel."

However station barriers are not normally programmed to allow intermediate
exit/entry, so you will need to use the manual gate, and a printout of the
T&Cs might be useful if they are being unreasonable.

Offpeak day has slightly different T&C:

http://nationalrail.co.uk/times_fare...onditions.html

"Break of journey is allowed on Off-Peak tickets unless restricted for the
journey you are making. If you intend to break your journey, please call
08457 48 49 50 to check if it is available on your specific journey."

The above has been the subject of much previous debate, (in uk.railway) but
it has been found that only the 'Intercity' TOCs seem to enforce this
generally, however the return leg is usually ok for break of journey anyway.

Access to the fares manual (which shows the restrictions for any ticket) is
no longer available to the general public online, but there are other
posters here who have access who may help, or you could ask at a ticket
office or even ring the number above, NR Enquiries...

Paul S

Is there a day return train ticket to Brighton...
 

In article ,
"Paul Scott" wrote:

They are definitely wrong for an 'anytime' day - break of journey, and
starting or stopping short, is allowed on outward or return legs. The
published T&C are available he

http://nationalrail.co.uk/times_fare...onditions.html

"You may start, break and resume, or end your journey at any intermediate
station along the route of travel."

So it sounds like I was just unlucky to have met someone who did not
know the rules then. I had always assumed that breaks of journey were
allowed on the return portion only, but never having had need to use
take advantage was not sure. Seems I was half right, unless the
outbound portion was a change.

Thanks for the help.

Is there a day return train ticket to Brighton...
 

In article
,
PhilD wrote:

The rules changed recently: I believe break of journey is allowed on
any ticket now (I may be wrong, but I think that is the case), in
which case there is no issue. Alternatively, just ask to pop out to
the shop/cash point/ticket office/whatever, and "forget" to go back...

I think it might be easier just to feign ignorance than to claim I was
breaking a point-to-point journey like that one. It is a direct route,
and they have better ones at Victoria anyway!

But as it seems I was given bad information and it should be an allowed
break of journey hopefully I will not need to claim anything anyway.
Just need to make sure that it does not come under the "breaks are
allowed except when they are not" rule for off peak tickets that Paul
highlighted.

Thanks.