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Was probably ****ed up on booze.

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404 on that

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"Steve Naïve" wrote in message
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One day the media will actually get the place right in one of their reports!

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Tube bosses are investigating the incident, which happened at 11.30am on
September 25 and sparked delays on the Circle Line.

Fell on the conductor rails, did he?
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You have to wonder what kind of man feels sick and faints just because
some other guys are discussing a vasectomy. I'm relly not sure I'd want
this lightweight in charge of my train and god knows how he'd react in an
emergency that possibly involved injuries. Burst into tears and throw up
over the passengers?

B2003

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Boltar wrote:

You have to wonder what kind of man feels sick and faints just because
some other guys are discussing a vasectomy. I'm relly not sure I'd
want this lightweight in charge of my train and god knows how he'd react
in an emergency that possibly involved injuries. Burst into tears and
throw
up over the passengers?
B2003

The story I read on BBC Teletext a few days ago was that it was a trainee
driver, i.e. under supervision, who had repeatedly asked the others to stop/
change the subject or whatever. Most people would say that maybe his
instructors were out of order by incapacitating him, whether directly or
indirectly and again, maybe they are in the wrong job, because rendering a
train driverless cannot be in the public interest. Seemingly, the trainee
suffered minor injuries (Sue the individuals) and it also caused delays on
the Circle Line, again something experienced drivers wouldn't do if they
wanted to keep their jobs.
As regards throwing up over the passengers, well, they shouldn't have been
in the cab, then, should they? :-)
Have a nice Day
Paul

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(Joe Patrick) wrote:

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One important thing that doesn't seem to have been picked up anywhere in
the various reports of this is why was the train going along with the cab
door open anyway? If the story is true as told, then it doesn't say much
for the quality of the I/Op (road trainer) that was training him and this
is definitely a disciplinary issue. It would seem that the trainee was
very lucky in just getting away with a few bruises.

The I/Op (road trainer) is in charge of the train. Cab doors should never
be open when the train is moving unless there are exceptional
circumstances. The same also goes for the droplights being fully open on
the 1972 type stock. I know it is done, especially in the extra hot
weather to improve the very limited ventilation and indeed I have had to
run with the offside door open on a couple of occasions when the air
conditioning has failed in a (sealed) 1995 stock cab. However an I/Op is
supposed to be a responsible person and, if only for my own safety when
somebody else is driving, I would ensure the doors/droplights were closed
and the interlocks (if fitted) were not cut out.

A decent I/Op would have stopped discussing anything if that was giving
problems to the trainee, whether it is something discussed between others
in the cab or even if there were only the trainee and the I/Op in the cab.
More importantly, it was obviously distracting the trainee from what he
was doing - observing the road and driving the train.

Ideally, the trainee should have just walked off the train and reported
the matter but, understandably, trainees are always loathe to report a
trainer, especially when it means that they will probably be one of their
work colleagues when they are fully qualified later.

Various comments have been made about the trainee fainting; that is
irrelevant and is no reflection on how he may perform as a driver or
during an incident, or even how he may perform if somebody was to jump
under his train. Often squeamish people have been the pillar of strength
in an incident and those that you thought could cope with anything have
turned to jelly at the sight of a loose body part.

Roger

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wrote:
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(Joe Patrick) wrote:

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Tube Driver Faints on Moving Train

One important thing that doesn't seem to have been picked
up anywhere in the various reports of this is why was the
train going along with the cab door open anyway? If the
story is true as told, then it doesn't say much for the
quality of the I/Op (road trainer) that was training him
and this is definitely a disciplinary issue. It would seem
that the trainee was very lucky in just getting away with a
few bruises.

The trainee opened the door because he was feeling faint, wanted fresh air
and then fainted.

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Boltar wrote:
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You have to wonder what kind of man feels sick and faints
just because
some other guys are discussing a vasectomy. I'm relly not
sure I'd want
this lightweight in charge of my train and god knows how
he'd react in an
emergency that possibly involved injuries. Burst into tears
and throw up
over the passengers?

How someone reacts to a conversation and how they react to a real event are
two totally different things. I also suffer the same probelm and have
meaasured my length in a pub when a discussion I was in got round to such
things (I did manage to put my pint on the bar first), despite the fact that
the injury we were talking about was mine. I've have also had to deal with
various emergencies and do so without folding up.

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In article ,
(Cast_Iron) wrote:

wrote:
In article
,
(Joe Patrick) wrote:

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Tube Driver Faints on Moving Train

One important thing that doesn't seem to have been picked
up anywhere in the various reports of this is why was the
train going along with the cab door open anyway? If the
story is true as told, then it doesn't say much for the
quality of the I/Op (road trainer) that was training him
and this is definitely a disciplinary issue. It would seem
that the trainee was very lucky in just getting away with a
few bruises.

The trainee opened the door because he was feeling faint, wanted fresh
air
and then fainted.



That was one option I hadn't thought of - is that confirmed as to what
happened?. Either way, the I/Op is still responsible for the train and
even if the trainee had only just opened the door, the I/Op should have
been watching out.

Roger

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wrote:
In article ,
(Cast_Iron) wrote:

wrote:
In article
,
(Joe Patrick) wrote:

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Tube Driver Faints on Moving Train

One important thing that doesn't seem to have been picked
up anywhere in the various reports of this is why was the
train going along with the cab door open anyway? If the
story is true as told, then it doesn't say much for the
quality of the I/Op (road trainer) that was training him
and this is definitely a disciplinary issue. It would seem
that the trainee was very lucky in just getting away with
a
few bruises.

The trainee opened the door because he was feeling faint,
wanted fresh air
and then fainted.



That was one option I hadn't thought of - is that confirmed
as to what happened?.

That is definite.

Either way, the I/Op is still
responsible for the train and even if the trainee had only
just opened the door, the I/Op should have been watching
out.

Agreed. A definitive version can be seen at
http://billz1064.proboards.com/index...display&num=10
64934736

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"Cast_Iron" wrote in message ...
How someone reacts to a conversation and how they react to a real event are
two totally different things. I also suffer the same probelm and have
meaasured my length in a pub when a discussion I was in got round to such
things (I did manage to put my pint on the bar first), despite the fact that
the injury we were talking about was mine. I've have also had to deal with

I guess your nickname on here is ironic then?

various emergencies and do so without folding up.

Uh huh. And what happens if someone gets injured and you have to discuss it
with a paramedic? Will you just say "Oh , excuse me I feel faint, I must go to the
powder room..." ??

B2003

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Boltar wrote:
"Cast_Iron" wrote in message
...
How someone reacts to a conversation and how they react to
a real event are
two totally different things. I also suffer the same
probelm and have
meaasured my length in a pub when a discussion I was in
got round to such
things (I did manage to put my pint on the bar first),
despite the fact that
the injury we were talking about was mine. I've have also
had to deal with

I guess your nickname on here is ironic then?

various emergencies and do so without folding up.

Uh huh. And what happens if someone gets injured and you
have to discuss it
with a paramedic? Will you just say "Oh , excuse me I feel
faint, I must go to the
powder room..." ??

B2003

One is what one is, grow up.

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"Joe Patrick" wrote in message
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NEWS? You must be joking, this is more like ancient history!!

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Robin Mayes wrote:
"Steve Naïve" wrote in message
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One day the media will actually get the place right in one
of their reports!

What and spoil a perfectly consistent record? :-)