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Matthew P Jones October 1st 03 08:27 PM

Baker St. Bakerloo and Jubilee
 
I'm using the Bakerloo northbound from Baker St. quite often these days
and I have been thinking about Baker St. station.

I can remember when the Bakerloo used to split at Baker Street into the
Queens Park and Stanmore Branches. Then along came the Fleet Line,
which changed its name to the Jubilee. Looking at Baker Street now, it
must have been a hell of an engineering job to get the new line through.

The northbound Bakerloo appears to be almost on top of the southbound
Bakerloo and I assume the Jubilee lines are similar (can't see how it is
all supported - but then I'm not a structural engineer!)

Can someone tell me -

1) What was the arrangement of the Bakerloo at Baker Street before the
Jubilee - I assume it branched off in different directions north of
Baker Street, but were the northbound and southbound on different levels
then?

2) What are the connections between the Bakerloo and Jubilee at Baker
Street, if any? I notice going north from Baker St. a line goes off to
the left - where does this go - to the Jubilee (which was on the right)
or the Bakerloo southbound?

Many thanks for any help.

Matthew

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3518+3227 October 1st 03 08:43 PM

Baker St. Bakerloo and Jubilee
 
Matthew P Jones wrote in message ...
1) What was the arrangement of the Bakerloo at Baker Street before the
Jubilee - I assume it branched off in different directions north of
Baker Street, but were the northbound and southbound on different levels
then?


The Watford and Stanmore branches both had separate southbound platforms, with the two lines converging just south of the platforms.

The northbound line had only one platform, with the two branches diverging just north of the said platform, that to Stanmore going off to the right, and then passing over the top of the Watford branch.

When the Jubilee line was added, all they did was build the new southbound line off to the left, between the former southbound Stanmore branch platform and the converging junction. The southbound Stanmore platform therefore simply became the southbound Jubilee line platform. In the northbound direction, the new line joined onto the old quite a distance north of the diverging junction, and, therefore, a new northbound Jubilee line platform had to be provided.


2) What are the connections between the Bakerloo and Jubilee at Baker
Street, if any? I notice going north from Baker St. a line goes off to
the left - where does this go - to the Jubilee (which was on the right)
or the Bakerloo southbound?



The connections between the tracks basically use the original running tunnels.

From the southbound Jubilee line platform, you can proceed to the right, onto the southbound Bakerloo, which is accessed pretty much immediately. There is no connection from the southbound Bakerloo to the southbound Jubilee.

From the northbound Bakerloo platform, you can take the left hand route, which runs along the old tunnel for several trains lengths, before joining up to the northbound Jubilee. Similarly, you can't go from the northbound Jubilee to the northbound Bakerloo.


HTH


Peter Beale October 1st 03 09:39 PM

Baker St. Bakerloo and Jubilee
 
In article , (Matthew P Jones) wrote:

I can remember when the Bakerloo used to split at Baker Street into the
Queens Park and Stanmore Branches.


In those blessed days it was the Watford and Stanmore branches!

--
Peter Beale

M J Forbes October 1st 03 10:25 PM

Baker St. Bakerloo and Jubilee
 
"Peter Beale" wrote in message
o.uk...
In article , (Matthew

P Jones) wrote:

I can remember when the Bakerloo used to split at Baker Street into the
Queens Park and Stanmore Branches.


In those blessed days it was the Watford and Stanmore branches!

--
Peter Beale


Peter! You are still around! How are you sir?

Matt Forbes
(Still in Ealing)



Peter Beale October 2nd 03 07:25 AM

Baker St. Bakerloo and Jubilee
 
In article , (M J Forbes) wrote:

Peter! You are still around! How are you sir?

Matt Forbes
(Still in Ealing)


Retired in June (40 years in Christian ministry, 23 at Bulford, Wilts), flourishing and very busy, moved to Bedworth, 5 minutes from station, so
have exchanged the LSWR main line for the joys of Central Trains, albeit with MML 170s, and the choice of Nuneaton or Coventry for
connections. Thanks for asking!

--
Peter Beale


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