Cyclists allowed to run red lights?
 

"Adrian" wrote in message
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If it's not a silly question, why did you stop in a position where he
could pull up alongside?

You can't actually prevent it.

I have been in the situation where I have stopped for a children's crossing
patrol and because I turn right immediately after the crossing, I am toward
the right side of the lane. A car pulls up alongside me on the right and
stops, straddling the centre line. I could only guess that she was using the
cyclist as a kerb marker :-(

Cyclists allowed to run red lights?
 

"Dave Larrington" gurgled happily, sounding
much like they were saying:

If it's not a silly question, why did you stop in a position where he
could pull up alongside?

Because preventing a vehicle from overtaking is something one should
never ever do ;-)

cough And where would he have been overtaking too...?

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On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 09:57:43 +0100, "J. Chisholm"
wrote:

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What we really really need are 'advance' cycle lights such as used in
other Northern European Countries.

No chance - insufficient numbers of cyclists to make the cost even a
serious consideration.

--

"Primary position" the middle of a traffic lane. To take the "primary position" : to ride a bike in the middle of the lane in order to obstruct other road vehicles from overtaking.

A term invented by and used by psycholists and not recognised in the Highway Code.

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On Apr 16, 9:47*am, wrote:
On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 09:59:17 +0100





David Hansen wrote:

On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 00:51:23 +0100 someone who may be Derek
wrote this:-

While laws governing Scotland are passed in England Scotland cannot be
a country. *

Laws governing Greenland are passed in Denmark. The same used to be
true ofIceland.

Iceland had it´s own legal system most of the time Iceland was
governed from Denmark. Some of the laws passed in Iceland were the
same ones as passed in Denmark but it was a seperate legal system.

If, for the sake of argument, one accepts the claim that the UK is a
country then by the argument above it cannot be a country. While
laws governing the UK are passed in Belgium the UK cannot be a
country.

Scotland is a country, wales and NI are provinces. Scotland had its own
monarchy until james wandered south in the 17th century and its own self
governing parliament up until the 18th century. Wales was never anything more
than an area of tribal feifdoms living around some mountains who happened to
speak the same language. Even their so called princes never controlled the
whole region and since the 13th century its effectively been part of
england anyway. Ireland like wales was just a mishmash of tribes and could
never really be called a country other than by definition of its coastline.

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On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 07:25:28AM -0500, wrote:
(David Cantrell) wrote:
This no doubt also explains the cyclist who tried to kill me as I was
getting off a bus a coupla weeks ago. They spend so much time looking
for people who are *trying* to kill them (of whom there are
approximately zero) that they don't bother to look out for people who
might accidentally kill them (most drivers), people who might kill them
because the cyclist did something stupid (the driver of that artic), or
people who they might kill (me).
You can't spend much time cycling in London if you think that, then.
On every visit to London I can guarantee you I will pass at least one taxi
stopped in a cycle advance stop box as well as several motorbikes.

Could you explain exactly what that has to do with anything I wrote?

--
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For every vengeance, there is an equal and opposite revengeance.
-- Cartoon Law X

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On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 07:25:29AM -0500, wrote:
In article ,
(David Cantrell) wrote:
very few car drivers jump red lights, fewer do it deliberately, and
fewer still do it regularly. Which is really rather different from
cyclists, at least in London.
You are joking! I will concede that cyclists ignore lights more often than
motorists do but otherwise you are deluded.

Would care to join me for an exciting evening of traffic counting?

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Computer Science is about lofty design goals and careful algorithmic
optimisation. Sysadminning is about cleaning up the resulting mess.

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On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 01:28:51PM +0100, Brimstone wrote:
Adrian wrote:
Funny. I thought both were definitely in the United Kingdom.
They are, but Sotland and England are different countries. The clue is in
the the fact that they have different names and different legal structures.

By that argument, Texas and Louisiana are different countries.

You lose.

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David Cantrell | Official London Perl Mongers Bad Influence

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On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 02:32:39PM +0100, Mortimer wrote:

Why not make it simple and say *all* pedestrian lights have a flashing phase
and *no* vehicle-junction lights have a flashing phase?

Because when you have a vehicle junction and pedestrian crossing at the
same place, the universe would implode, perhaps?

--
David Cantrell | Official London Perl Mongers Bad Influence

I'm in retox

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On 16 Apr 2009 09:32:19 GMT someone who may be Adrian
wrote this:-

If, for the sake of argument, one accepts the claim that the UK is a
country then by the argument above it cannot be a country. While laws
governing the UK are passed in Belgium the UK cannot be a country.

Just as well they aren't, eh?

EU directives are approved and passed into UK law by Westminster. Yes, UK
law. England, Wales, NI _and_ Scotland.

Nice try. However, I already knew the details. It is not politically
correct to call laws made by the EU laws, it upsets the little
Englanders (and there are the equivalent of little Englanders in
most parts of the EU). So the laws are called Directives and there
is a pretence that they are optional.

Must try better. 1/10.


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I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54

Cyclists allowed to run red lights?
 

David Hansen wrote:
On 16 Apr 2009 09:32:19 GMT someone who may be Adrian
wrote this:-

If, for the sake of argument, one accepts the claim that the UK is a
country then by the argument above it cannot be a country. While laws
governing the UK are passed in Belgium the UK cannot be a country.
Just as well they aren't, eh?

EU directives are approved and passed into UK law by Westminster. Yes, UK
law. England, Wales, NI _and_ Scotland.

Nice try. However, I already knew the details. It is not politically
correct to call laws made by the EU laws, it upsets the little
Englanders (and there are the equivalent of little Englanders in
most parts of the EU). So the laws are called Directives and there
is a pretence that they are optional.

Must try better. 1/10.


More homework required? ;-)

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