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John Williamson gurgled happily, sounding
much like they were saying:

France, Germany, Holland and Belgium, to name just a few, have plates
that relate to the owner, not the car


Belgium does.
France most certainly does not.
I'm fairly certain Germany and Holland don't, but wouldn't swear to it.
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Adrian wrote:
John Williamson gurgled happily, sounding
much like they were saying:

France, Germany, Holland and Belgium, to name just a few, have plates
that relate to the owner, not the car


Belgium does.
France most certainly does not.
I'm fairly certain Germany and Holland don't, but wouldn't swear to it.


Germany does, with the plates being removed when the vehicle is sold,
and according to a Dutchman I knew, Holland does, too.

The French plate, last time I checked, relates to where the owner lives,
and does not follow the vehicle. If the owner moves home to a different
Département, then new plates are necessary within a short period of moving.

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John Williamson gurgled happily, sounding
much like they were saying:

France, Germany, Holland and Belgium, to name just a few, have plates
that relate to the owner, not the car


Belgium does.
France most certainly does not.
I'm fairly certain Germany and Holland don't, but wouldn't swear to it.


Germany does, with the plates being removed when the vehicle is sold,


Yes, but they can't legally be swapped between vehicles in the same way
as Belgian ones are.

The French plate, last time I checked, relates to where the owner lives,
and does not follow the vehicle. If the owner moves home to a different
Département, then new plates are necessary within a short period of
moving.


Indeed. But if the car stays within the same dept, the same plate stays
on it. Anyway, they've changed that completely as of this January, and
have moved to a single national registration scheme with cars wearing the
same plate "for life".
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On 10 Aug 2009 06:21:50 GMT, Adrian wrote:
John Williamson gurgled happily, sounding
much like they were saying:
The French plate, last time I checked, relates to where the owner lives,
and does not follow the vehicle. If the owner moves home to a different
Département, then new plates are necessary within a short period of
moving.


Indeed. But if the car stays within the same dept, the same plate stays
on it. Anyway, they've changed that completely as of this January, and
have moved to a single national registration scheme with cars wearing the
same plate "for life".



Is the plate still in the same format, though, with the Département
number still being shown? Or is it a completely new system?

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Bruce gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying:

The French plate, last time I checked, relates to where the owner
lives, and does not follow the vehicle. If the owner moves home to a
different Département, then new plates are necessary within a short
period of moving.


Indeed. But if the car stays within the same dept, the same plate stays
on it. Anyway, they've changed that completely as of this January, and
have moved to a single national registration scheme with cars wearing
the same plate "for life".


Is the plate still in the same format, though, with the Département
number still being shown? Or is it a completely new system?


No, it's changed completely. They can put the dept number on a blue band
to the right hand edge, mirroring the F nationality identifier, but it's
optional and doesn't signify anything much.

They look more like the current Italian or Spanish plates - AA123AA, with
nothing meaning anything more than the rough order the plates were
issued. All new cars are being issued them, of course, but also anything
that moves between dept on resale. Dunno about stuff that's sold within a
dept, since I presume they're centralising the records.

dons black armband for another little thing that made France France.


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On 10 Aug 2009 08:36:02 GMT, Adrian wrote:
Bruce gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying:
Is the plate still in the same format, though, with the Département
number still being shown? Or is it a completely new system?


No, it's changed completely. They can put the dept number on a blue band
to the right hand edge, mirroring the F nationality identifier, but it's
optional and doesn't signify anything much.

They look more like the current Italian or Spanish plates - AA123AA, with
nothing meaning anything more than the rough order the plates were
issued. All new cars are being issued them, of course, but also anything
that moves between dept on resale. Dunno about stuff that's sold within a
dept, since I presume they're centralising the records.

dons black armband for another little thing that made France France.



That's sad.

I can't imagine why they didn't just adapt the previous system.

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On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:24:18 +0100
Bruce wrote:


On 10 Aug 2009 08:36:02 GMT, Adrian wrote:
Bruce gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying:
Is the plate still in the same format, though, with the Département
number still being shown? Or is it a completely new system?


No, it's changed completely. They can put the dept number on a blue band
to the right hand edge, mirroring the F nationality identifier, but it's
optional and doesn't signify anything much.

They look more like the current Italian or Spanish plates - AA123AA, with
nothing meaning anything more than the rough order the plates were
issued. All new cars are being issued them, of course, but also anything
that moves between dept on resale. Dunno about stuff that's sold within a
dept, since I presume they're centralising the records.

dons black armband for another little thing that made France France.



That's sad.

I can't imagine why they didn't just adapt the previous system.


I haven't been following this thread so maybe this has been mentioned
already - but previously I believe the plates had to change if the owners
address changed and he had to register his car in a new department. Now the
plates stay with the car for life like they do here so I guess they feel
the dept. is irrelevant. Though I suppose they could have done as here in
having the very first registration location on the plate.

B2003


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