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At least 3, 30s, don't know who played the lead, 50s with Kenneth More and
90s(?) with Robert Powell.


Robert Donat, 1935...

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On Oct 30, 3:09*pm, rail wrote:
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* * * * * E27002 wrote:





On Oct 30, 2:58*pm, Arthur Figgis wrote:
E27002 wrote:
On Oct 30, 11:40 am, TimB wrote:
On Oct 30, 6:15 pm, E27002 wrote:


On Oct 29, 6:34 pm, Miles Bader wrote: Theo
Markettos writes:
A few weeks ago the best food King's Cross could offer was a
sandwich. *Not a hot meal in sight. *There's now a West
Cornwall Pasty Company stand (back near where it used to be, on
the extended concourse between plat 7 and 8) but I think that's
it as far as hot food goes.
Wait, isn't KC ... world famous and all that... the departure
point for the wilds of Scotland ... etc?
Which brings to mind the last movie remake of "The Thritynine
Steps". In which, IIRC, the train for Scotland departs from St
Pancras instead of the more accurate Kings Cross.
But the Thames-Clyde Express left from St Pancras.


IIRC part of the story is that the hero, Richard Hannay, leaves the
train whilst it is on the Forth Bridge. *An AFIK, the Thames-Clyde
Express did not cross the Forth.


I've not seen the film(s), but the Forth Bridge doesn't feature in the
book, which is set in Galloway. However an advertising poster recently on
display at my local station would suggest LNER locos and the Forth Bridge
do appear in a recent stage version of it.


It has been a while since I last saw either (I think there are only 2)
version of the movie. *


At least 3, 30s, don't know who played the lead, 50s with Kenneth More and 90s(?) with Robert Powell.

Wow, you are a film buff. I guess I can only bring the 50s and 90s
versions to mind. I will have to look for the earlier one.

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On 2009-10-30, Arthur Figgis wrote:
E27002 wrote:
On Oct 30, 11:40 am, TimB wrote:
On Oct 30, 6:15 pm, E27002 wrote:

On Oct 29, 6:34 pm, Miles Bader wrote: Theo Markettos writes:
A few weeks ago the best food King's Cross could offer was a sandwich. Not
a hot meal in sight. There's now a West Cornwall Pasty Company stand (back
near where it used to be, on the extended concourse between plat 7 and 8)
but I think that's it as far as hot food goes.
Wait, isn't KC ... world famous and all that... the departure point for
the wilds of Scotland ... etc?
Which brings to mind the last movie remake of "The Thritynine Steps".
In which, IIRC, the train for Scotland departs from St Pancras instead
of the more accurate Kings Cross.
But the Thames-Clyde Express left from St Pancras.


IIRC part of the story is that the hero, Richard Hannay, leaves the
train whilst it is on the Forth Bridge. An AFIK, the Thames-Clyde
Express did not cross the Forth.


I've not seen the film(s), but the Forth Bridge doesn't feature in the
book, which is set in Galloway. However an advertising poster recently
on display at my local station would suggest LNER locos and the Forth
Bridge do appear in a recent stage version of it.


And in the book he does leave from St Pancras.

E.
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E27002 wrote:

On Oct 30, 2:58*pm, Arthur Figgis wrote:
E27002 wrote:
On Oct 30, 11:40 am, TimB wrote:
On Oct 30, 6:15 pm, E27002 wrote:


On Oct 29, 6:34 pm, Miles Bader wrote: Theo Markettos writes:
A few weeks ago the best food King's Cross could offer was a sandwich. *Not
a hot meal in sight. *There's now a West Cornwall Pasty Company stand (back
near where it used to be, on the extended concourse between plat 7 and 8)
but I think that's it as far as hot food goes.
Wait, isn't KC ... world famous and all that... the departure point for
the wilds of Scotland ... etc?
Which brings to mind the last movie remake of "The Thritynine Steps".
In which, IIRC, the train for Scotland departs from St Pancras instead
of the more accurate Kings Cross.
But the Thames-Clyde Express left from St Pancras.


IIRC part of the story is that the hero, Richard Hannay, leaves the
train whilst it is on the Forth Bridge. *An AFIK, the Thames-Clyde
Express did not cross the Forth.


I've not seen the film(s), but the Forth Bridge doesn't feature in the
book, which is set in Galloway. However an advertising poster recently
on display at my local station would suggest LNER locos and the Forth
Bridge do appear in a recent stage version of it.

It has been a while since I last saw either (I think there are only 2)
version of the movie. The older black and white one, IIRC, did have
Hannay leaving the train on the bridge.


As Mr Figgis says, the Forth Bridge doesn't feature in the book (though
there are 3 films and a recent TV adaptation - by coincidence, the Donat
version was broadcast last night). That was Hitchcock's idea. In the
book, Hannay changes trains at Dumfries, He had a ticket to Newton
Stewart, but the manner of his leaving the second train is described
thus:

"About five o'clock the carriage had emptied, and I was left alone as I
had hoped. I got out at the next station, a little place whose name I
scarcely noted, set right in the heart of a bog. It reminded me of one
of those forgotten little stations in the Karroo. An old stationmaster
was digging in his garden, and with his spade over his shoulder
sauntered to the train, took charge of a parcel and went back to his
potatoes. A child of ten received my ticket, and I emerged on a white
road that straggled over the brown moor."


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"rail" wrote in message
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At least 3, 30s, don't know who played the lead, 50s with Kenneth More
and 90s(?) with Robert Powell.


Robert Donat, 1935...


Of course!

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On Oct 30, 10:25 pm, E27002 wrote:
On Oct 30, 3:09 pm, rail wrote:

In message

E27002 wrote:


On Oct 30, 2:58 pm, Arthur Figgis wrote:
E27002 wrote:
On Oct 30, 11:40 am, TimB wrote:
On Oct 30, 6:15 pm, E27002 wrote:


On Oct 29, 6:34 pm, Miles Bader wrote: Theo
Markettos writes:
A few weeks ago the best food King's Cross could offer was a
sandwich. Not a hot meal in sight. There's now a West
Cornwall Pasty Company stand (back near where it used to be, on
the extended concourse between plat 7 and 8) but I think that's
it as far as hot food goes.
Wait, isn't KC ... world famous and all that... the departure
point for the wilds of Scotland ... etc?
Which brings to mind the last movie remake of "The Thritynine
Steps". In which, IIRC, the train for Scotland departs from St
Pancras instead of the more accurate Kings Cross.
But the Thames-Clyde Express left from St Pancras.


IIRC part of the story is that the hero, Richard Hannay, leaves the
train whilst it is on the Forth Bridge. An AFIK, the Thames-Clyde
Express did not cross the Forth.


I've not seen the film(s), but the Forth Bridge doesn't feature in the
book, which is set in Galloway. However an advertising poster recently on
display at my local station would suggest LNER locos and the Forth Bridge
do appear in a recent stage version of it.


It has been a while since I last saw either (I think there are only 2)
version of the movie.


At least 3, 30s, don't know who played the lead, 50s with Kenneth More and 90s(?) with Robert Powell.


Wow, you are a film buff. I guess I can only bring the 50s and 90s
versions to mind. I will have to look for the earlier one.


For God's sake, it's a Hitchcock classic! and a railway classic.
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TimB wrote:
On Oct 30, 6:15 pm, E27002 wrote:
On Oct 29, 6:34 pm, Miles Bader wrote: Theo Markettos writes:
A few weeks ago the best food King's Cross could offer was a sandwich. Not
a hot meal in sight. There's now a West Cornwall Pasty Company stand (back
near where it used to be, on the extended concourse between plat 7 and 8)
but I think that's it as far as hot food goes.
Wait, isn't KC ... world famous and all that... the departure point for
the wilds of Scotland ... etc?

Which brings to mind the last movie remake of "The Thritynine Steps".
In which, IIRC, the train for Scotland departs from St Pancras instead
of the more accurate Kings Cross.


But the Thames-Clyde Express left from St Pancras.
Tim


And Glasgow trains still leave from Euston.

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Some rob you with a sixgun, some with a fountain pen.

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E27002 wrote:
On Oct 29, 6:34 pm, Miles Bader wrote:
Theo Markettos writes:
A few weeks ago the best food King's Cross could offer was a sandwich. Not
a hot meal in sight. There's now a West Cornwall Pasty Company stand (back
near where it used to be, on the extended concourse between plat 7 and 8)
but I think that's it as far as hot food goes.

Wait, isn't KC ... world famous and all that... the departure point for
the wilds of Scotland ... etc?

Which brings to mind the last movie remake of "The Thritynine Steps".
In which, IIRC, the train for Scotland departs from St Pancras instead
of the more accurate Kings Cross.

The Thirty Nine Steps is set in the period immediately before the first
world war.

At that time, competing trains departed for Scotland from Kings Cross
(for the Great Northern Railway/North Eastern Railway/North British
Railway services, primarily to Edinburgh and the East Coast via Berwick)
from St Pancras (for Midland Railway services via Carlisle) and from
Euston (for London & North Western Railway services via Carlisle).

Much of the action of the original novel takes place in the wilds of
Galloway in south-west Scotland, served by the Glasgow and South Western
Railway. This railway had a strong relationship with the Midland
Railway, thus someone heading to Galloway _would_ have left London from
St Pancras.

In any film that was true to the book, the Forth Bridge wouldn't appear
at all, because this is considerably to the north and east of Galloway,
just west of Edinburgh on the North British Railway.
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On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:58:48 +0000, Arthur Figgis
wrote:
I've not seen the film(s), but the Forth Bridge doesn't feature in the
book, which is set in Galloway. However an advertising poster recently
on display at my local station would suggest LNER locos and the Forth
Bridge do appear in a recent stage version of it.



Presumably it is a very large stage.

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"Chris Tolley" (ukonline really) wrote

"About five o'clock the carriage had emptied, and I was left alone as I
had hoped. I got out at the next station, a little place whose name I
scarcely noted, set right in the heart of a bog. It reminded me of one
of those forgotten little stations in the Karroo. An old stationmaster
was digging in his garden, and with his spade over his shoulder
sauntered to the train, took charge of a parcel and went back to his
potatoes. A child of ten received my ticket, and I emerged on a white
road that straggled over the brown moor."

Buchan could have had in mind Gatehouse-of-Fleet station, which was 7 miles
from the small town after which it was named - in the period before closure
only 3 trains per week (all down trains)were shown in the public timetable
as calling. Or possibly Loch Skerrow, a crossing loop and unadvertised
halt - but this didn't have any road access.
http://www.railbrit.co.uk/Portpatrick_Railway/frame.htm

Peter



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