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Old July 18th 16, 04:04 PM posted to uk.railway,uk.transport.london
Colin Reeves Colin Reeves is offline
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Default Will Brexit lead to the abandonment of Crossrail2 and TurningSouth London Orange?

On 18/07/2016 09:50, tim... wrote:

"Charles Ellson" wrote in message
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On Sun, 17 Jul 2016 10:39:37 +0100, Optimist
wrote:

On 17 Jul 2016 09:11:23 GMT, Jeremy Double
wrote:

Optimist wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jul 2016 08:27:24 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
wrote:

Optimist wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jul 2016 00:07:48 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
wrote:

Optimist wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 08:20:54 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote:

In message , at
15:49:33 on
Fri, 15 Jul 2016, Optimist
remarked:
Then the shortfall should be paid by the UK treasury, and
deducted from
the amount paid to Brussels.

It's not so simple. Countries are not rewarded with research
participation
based on their EU contributions. They are included because
their
universities are appropriate participants. We have the best
EU universities
and so were included disproportionately; now, knowing we
will soon be gone,
our universities are not considered for inclusion in new
EU-funded
projects, as their work may not be funded after 2018.

Same answer - fund our OWN universities from the amount we
pay in EU contributions.

But the whole £350m(sic) has already been promised to the NHS,
or was it
Cornwall, or perhaps Wales.

Our universities are world-class, so it would be foolish of the
EU not to
co-operate with us as they
do with other non-EU countries. If they decide not to, well,
we can
co-operate with other countries
instead, their loss not ours.

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2016/jul/16/research-funding-hit-by-brexit-vote


The fact is the hundreds of millions of pounds supposedly from
the EU are
provided by UK taxpayers
in the first place.

This is one of the areas where we got back more than we put in. So
Brexit
means we'll have to pay more for a lower quality of cooperation in
future.


So, if they axe a grant, UK can pay it directly instead and
deduct the amount
from what is given to Brussels.

Typical Brexiter lie.

UK's total receipts from EU is £10billion a year less than our
contributions. No amount of lying by
Euro-fanatics can change that fact.


£8.5 billion actually.


According to ONS, the figure was £9.872 billion for 2014 and £11.271
billion for 2013.


But this money is not necessarily available for the
government to use after Brexit. Some areas of the civil service
will need
to be expanded to cover activities where we currently share the
resources
of the EU (the UK currently has NO trade negotiators, for instance,
because
currently all UK trade deals are done on an EU-wide basis). It is
highly
likely that UK GDP will drop as a result of Brexit, thus there will
be less
tax receipts available to make payments from.

I do not accept that view, trade deals with the rest of the world

The RotW that already has established trade deals with others which
are going to be dropped to trade with part of an insignificant island
group off the coast of Europe ?


The UK is the 5th (6th) largest economy in the world.

If that is not large enough for County X to make a trade deal with, why
has Country X has already established trade deals with others who are
almost certainly going to be smaller?

This "we are too small" mantra is patent nonsense, proved by your own claim

tim



Maybe this answers the naysayers?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36818055

Colin