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Will Brexit lead to the abandonment of Crossrail2 and TurningSouth London Orange?
On 18/07/2016 09:50, tim... wrote:
"Charles Ellson" wrote in message ... On Sun, 17 Jul 2016 10:39:37 +0100, Optimist wrote: On 17 Jul 2016 09:11:23 GMT, Jeremy Double wrote: Optimist wrote: On Sun, 17 Jul 2016 08:27:24 -0000 (UTC), Recliner wrote: Optimist wrote: On Sun, 17 Jul 2016 00:07:48 -0000 (UTC), Recliner wrote: Optimist wrote: On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 08:20:54 +0100, Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 15:49:33 on Fri, 15 Jul 2016, Optimist remarked: Then the shortfall should be paid by the UK treasury, and deducted from the amount paid to Brussels. It's not so simple. Countries are not rewarded with research participation based on their EU contributions. They are included because their universities are appropriate participants. We have the best EU universities and so were included disproportionately; now, knowing we will soon be gone, our universities are not considered for inclusion in new EU-funded projects, as their work may not be funded after 2018. Same answer - fund our OWN universities from the amount we pay in EU contributions. But the whole £350m(sic) has already been promised to the NHS, or was it Cornwall, or perhaps Wales. Our universities are world-class, so it would be foolish of the EU not to co-operate with us as they do with other non-EU countries. If they decide not to, well, we can co-operate with other countries instead, their loss not ours. https://www.theguardian.com/education/2016/jul/16/research-funding-hit-by-brexit-vote The fact is the hundreds of millions of pounds supposedly from the EU are provided by UK taxpayers in the first place. This is one of the areas where we got back more than we put in. So Brexit means we'll have to pay more for a lower quality of cooperation in future. So, if they axe a grant, UK can pay it directly instead and deduct the amount from what is given to Brussels. Typical Brexiter lie. UK's total receipts from EU is £10billion a year less than our contributions. No amount of lying by Euro-fanatics can change that fact. £8.5 billion actually. According to ONS, the figure was £9.872 billion for 2014 and £11.271 billion for 2013. But this money is not necessarily available for the government to use after Brexit. Some areas of the civil service will need to be expanded to cover activities where we currently share the resources of the EU (the UK currently has NO trade negotiators, for instance, because currently all UK trade deals are done on an EU-wide basis). It is highly likely that UK GDP will drop as a result of Brexit, thus there will be less tax receipts available to make payments from. I do not accept that view, trade deals with the rest of the world The RotW that already has established trade deals with others which are going to be dropped to trade with part of an insignificant island group off the coast of Europe ? The UK is the 5th (6th) largest economy in the world. If that is not large enough for County X to make a trade deal with, why has Country X has already established trade deals with others who are almost certainly going to be smaller? This "we are too small" mantra is patent nonsense, proved by your own claim tim Maybe this answers the naysayers? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36818055 Colin |
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