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Old August 20th 07, 08:11 PM posted to uk.transport.london
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Default How are the bus stops at Lancaster Gate supposed to work?

Olof Lagerkvist wrote:
Paul Corfield wrote:
On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 15:50:34 GMT, Olof Lagerkvist
wrote:


I saw that the 46 route has been extended from Warwick Avenue via
Paddington down to Lancaster Gate so I used it a few days ago from
Paddington to Lancaster Gate. The odd thing was that at Lancaster
Gate the bus stopped on the right side of the road on the one-way
system around the station, outside the tube station entrance.

It did not feel like the most safe bus stop I have used when I had to
get off the bus right into the street... Was the problem that I
stayed on the bus too far (is it just a bus stand outside the station
and I should have got off before the station)? Or is it supposed to
be a bus stop outside the station in the way I used it? The driver
did not look like she was surprised that I used it as a bus stop...



The Journey Planner and Spider Maps for the route / area are not
helpful. I'm not 100% certain but the stop you say you alighted at is
really only a bus stand. I think you should have alighted at a stop on
the Bayswater Road.



There are no other stops at Bayswater Road for this route as far as I
can see, it arrives from north (Sussex Gardens). The 'LC' stop is
opposit to the stand where I alighted so I don't think it would be
possible to first stop at 'LC' and let passengers off and then cross all
the lanes over to the stand at the right side of the road.


I'm reasonably familiar with Lancaster Gate and I've seen a 46 do
exactly what you describe (let passengers off into the middle of the
road at the bus stand). However, I'm certain they're not supposed to do
this. I've never used 46 to Lancaster Gate before but the Journey
Planner maps reckon that they are supposed to drop passengers off on
Westbourne Street (at the end of Clifton Place), and would therefore
then cross to the other side of the road, turn the corner and pull into
the bus stand.

However, that bus stop isn't on the spider maps (usually even
alighting-point-only stops are shown on spider maps) which is a bit odd.
And I'm sure I can't remember that stop being there, even though I must
have been past it dozens of times.

The only other alternative is that the bus pulls in
at the stop from which it would normally start its journey and let
passengers off and then circumnavigate the one way system again.



That would be possible. Either 'LA' or 'LC' stops could be used for
alighting in this way.

I can
understand why drivers might be reluctant to do that.



Yes, if that is what they are supposed to do it looks to me as a quite
complicated route terminus.




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