On Sep 14, 1:18 pm, "Recliner" wrote:
"John Rowland" wrote in




Richard J. wrote:

But I wonder how he justifies the "more frequent" tag? According to
the press release, trains will run to Heathrow every 5 minutes, as at
present, with alternate trains serving T4 and T5. The T4 trains will
have a layover of 7 minutes at T4, so passengers for T123 should wait
and catch the next T5 train in order to reach T123 more quickly. So
T123 and T5 will effectively have a 6 tph service (every 10 minutes)
westbound, T5 will have 6 tph eastbound, and T123 will have 12 tph
eastbound.

I'm amazed that they think 6 tph will satisfy the demand for journeys
to T123 and T5, compared with 12 tph to T123 today. How on earth is
this "more frequent"? And if it's not more frequent, how can it
produce "increased capacity"?

But is the current Heathrow service 12tph? Last I heard, the Picc's
24tph peak serivce dropped to something like 21tph between the peaks,
and half the trains went to Heathrow.

Surely, more than half the trains go Heathrow? Certainly, much less
than half go to Rayners Lane, so unless a lot are terminating at
Northfields, Heathrow must be getting more than half. If you look at
the journey planner, it looks like it is indeed 12 tph to Heathrow, and
not just in the peaks.

The Current Off Peak Piccadilly line service is
every 20 mins Cockfosters - Uxbridge
every 20 mins Cockfosters - Rayners Lane
every 5 mins Cockfosters - Heathrow
every 20 mins Arnos Grove - Northfields

In the peak the Northfields trains, more or less run to Ruislip and
there is a 5 minute service, both to Heathrow and Rayner's Lane.

The new timetable starting in January ("Shadow Running" when T5
trains start running, empty from/to T123) I understand will be every
10 minutes to T4 and every 10 minutes to T5, via T123. I think that
the T4 trains will then reverse at Arnos Grove, with no more
Northfield "locals". There shouldnt be a change to the Rayners
Branch.
No doubt someone has the official stuff - if its been done yet!