On Sep 18, 10:17*am, Sim wrote:
On 18 Sep, 09:52, "DW downunder" reply@newsgroup wrote:





"John Salmon" wrote in message

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"Sim" wrote
Now let's be nice to each other! SNIP As it is, it's in London.
Hooray!

That seems like a reasonable summary. Now, can someone explain succinctly
why the smaller 'National Rail' stations between Queens Park and Harrow &
Wealdstone, used by LU and LO, which were previously Silverlink-branded,
are now signed as LU (rather than LO) stations?

The name Bakerloo might have something to do with it. AIUI, the TfL strategy
is to make the Bakerloo the primary service provider for this section, if
not the whole way to Watford Jn. This may be linked in some way with the
Metropolitan Line Watford branch extension to Watford Jn.

DW downunder

The decision was made to transfer these stations to Underground
management at the time Overground was being defined. The Bakerloo is
probably seen as the senior partner as far as Harrow now, and further
changes (already discussed) seem likely to make that even more so in
the future.

In the old days, Queen's Park was the last LT-managed station on the
route to Watford, which was firmly BR (and before that LMS) thereafter
all the way to Watford. The Bakerloo was the "guest".

From 1964 a decline set in as far as LT was concerned, until by the
1970s there was no Bakerloo north of Queen's Park except a handful in
the peaks. Then Stonebridge Park depot was built as part of the
splitting of the Bakerloo around the time the first part of the
Jubilee line opened (1979) and tube trains started running north of
Queen's Park more frequently again.

One thought: will Headstone Lane--Watford High Street inclusive also
be transferred to Underground management eventually, particularly
after Met trains start serving Watford HS on their way from Croxley to
Watford Junction?

Why not go the whole hog and include a new LU ticket office in the
rebuilt Watford Junction station?
Plans already show a possible new direct access from buses/street to
platforms 1-4!

JohnG