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ELL Stock in Place
"MIG" wrote in message ... On 21 Jan, 23:17, "Paul Scott" wrote: That will need platform extensions nearly everywhere. I wonder if it will really happen? Network Rail have just announced that they have started: "London Bridge to West Croydon via Norwood Junction Increasing to 10-car trains during the peak from December 2011" from http://www.networkrailmediacentre.co...Cate goryID=8 I'd have thought the eventual capacity increase from 8 to 10 car is the key. 6 x 10 car trains in the peak hour must be almost as much capacity into LB as now? It would certainly help if it's possible, but they only have to run out of money and leave some short platforms somewhere (remember "Kent Link"?) and there may be no choice but to run shorter trains. The South London RUS also covers the subject in detail, needless to say. AFAICS the idea that the ELL will cause a major reduction in services into LB seems something of an exaggeration. It's meant to seem that way. With all the partial and oddly-worded information I think I have to wait and see. This is how the RUS summary reads for the area in question, (section 6.3) though obviously it's a couple of years old now: "On the Sydenham line, Brockley, Honor Oak Park, Penge West and Anerley all see an INCREASE in the number of morning peak trains to London Bridge. Sydenham and Forest Hill will see a marginal reduction from 7tph at present to 6tph in the high peak hour, but NO CHANGE from the existing 18tph trains across the entire three-hour peak. However, the RUS considers that, even if this change were to be carried out in isolation (as opposed to at the time of ELL opening), the service pattern will provide sufficient capacity, since no trains serving this route will originate from further away than the Croydon area (as opposed to locations such as Epsom or Caterham today)." [My caps] "A 2tph service will operate from the Sydenham line to Victoria via Crystal Palace. This is a significant improvement in the morning peak, developed in response to stakeholder feedback, since this service currently only commences after the morning peak has finished." "A 4tph peak fast service is provided from Norwood Junction to London Bridge, at improved intervals. This will provide capacity for some of the passengers who would otherwise use the all-stations trains." I think these latter are the trains that have to shift to the fast lines, but they should presumably be preferred by pax form West Croydon or Norwood Jn once they are sussed out, as they'll run non stop. Looking at all the evidence so far, the 'battering' of the service only seems to be off peak. Assuming a reduction of 5 to 4 tph meets the definition... Paul S |
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