On 5 Feb, 17:22, Mizter T wrote:
On Feb 5, 4:26*pm, wrote:





(Mizter T) wrote:
I should add, I'm not planning on traipsing round the railways of
London actively looking for a confrontation! Just that, I wouldn't let
the lack of an OEP deter me from travelling at all. The problem is, of
course, that the blurb says an OEP must be obtained before travelling,
so it puts people who're trying to do the right thing in an awkward
position - but I'd have no qualms about travelling should an OEP not
be obtainable from my starting station (if there was a newsagents
directly next to the station then maybe, I might get one - but if I
wasn't buying anything else it'd feel a bit weird to go in there to
ask for a 'free' ticket, though I suppose along with people coming in
to check their Oyster PAYG balance and not buying anything it could be
said to be part of the quid-pro-quo when you agree to retail Oyster
products, given the number of people it does bring through the door).

I'm still struggling to envisage a typical journey which both requires an
OEP and starts at an NR station.

Really? You said something similar in another thread. In that case I
think you're being completely devoid of any imagination, to be blunt!

Ok, Forest Hill (z3) to East Croydon (z5) - pax holds a z1-3
Travelcard for their commute into town (train to London Bridge then
Tube), but they want to go to Croydon to do some shopping.

Westcombe Park (z3) to Charing Cross (z1) - pax holds a z2&3
Travelcard for their commute to Canary Wharf (train and DLR), but they
want to head into town.

Putney (z2/3) to Richmond (z4) - pax holds a z1&2 Travelcard for their
commute into town (train to Waterloo then W&C line into the City), but
they want to go and have a walk and drink by the river.

I could go on, and on, and on, but I won't! There are a gazillion
examples.

(I'm wondering if you've got the wrong end of the stick on this OEP
business?)

My real life example last week: found myself in Barking (had travelled
there from Chingford by bus).

Barking is in Zone 4, at the time I had Zone 1 - 3 travelcard.
When I touched in, on one platform were Westbound District line trains
and on the adjacent platform was a c2c train.
So I would need an OEP for one service bit not the other. I chickened
out and jumped on the District Line...

In message
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Railist writes

My real life example last week: found myself in Barking (had travelled
there from Chingford by bus).

Barking is in Zone 4, at the time I had Zone 1 - 3 travelcard.
When I touched in, on one platform were Westbound District line trains
and on the adjacent platform was a c2c train.
So I would need an OEP for one service bit not the other.

No. You don't need an OEP when travelling back into your zones - the
fare is handled by Oyster in the normal way (PAYG for the first bit and
travelcard for the rest).

You only need an OEP when travelling OUT of your zones by NR.
--
Paul Terry

On 6 Feb, 09:50, Paul Terry wrote:
In message
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Railist writes

My real life example last week: found myself in Barking (had travelled
there from Chingford by bus).

Barking is in Zone 4, at the time I had Zone 1 - 3 travelcard.
When I touched in, on one platform were Westbound District line trains
and on the adjacent platform was a c2c train.
So I would need an OEP for one service bit not the other.

No. You don't need an OEP when travelling back into your zones - the
fare is handled by Oyster in the normal way (PAYG for the first bit and
travelcard for the rest).

You only need an OEP when travelling OUT of your zones by NR.
--
Paul Terry

Oh right! That's good to know. I now have z1-5 so less likely to need
OEP...

On Sat, 6 Feb 2010, Railist wrote:

My real life example last week: found myself in Barking (had travelled
there from Chingford by bus).

Barking is in Zone 4, at the time I had Zone 1 - 3 travelcard. When I
touched in, on one platform were Westbound District line trains and on
the adjacent platform was a c2c train. So I would need an OEP for one
service bit not the other. I chickened out and jumped on the District
Line...

I hadn't thought about this. So OEPs are required even on interavailable
routes? What was the situation before - could you use PAYG on those? ISTR
thinking that i could use PAYG between King's Cross and Finsbury Park on
the trains; was i wrong?

tom

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Everything that has transpired has done so according to my design.