I'm on a "via Victoria" (anticlockwise) circle train that started from
Edgware road on platform 2, which necessitated crossing from the other
island where the westbound Hammersmith train (albeit a Metropolitan) had
arrived at platform 4.

To achieve a cross-platform change I would have had to wait until a
District Line train reversed in platform 3 (there was none present at
the time). And then changed again if I really wanted the Circle.
--
Roland Perry

In article , (Roland
Perry) wrote:

I'm on a "via Victoria" (anticlockwise) circle train that started
from Edgware road on platform 2, which necessitated crossing from
the other island where the westbound Hammersmith train (albeit a
Metropolitan) had arrived at platform 4.

To achieve a cross-platform change I would have had to wait until a
District Line train reversed in platform 3 (there was none present
at the time). And then changed again if I really wanted the Circle.

Now do people believe me?

How clearly was the arrangement indicated at Edgware Road, by the way? I'm
thinking of both announcements and indicators on the platforms.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

wrote in message
...
In article , (Roland
Perry) wrote:

I'm on a "via Victoria" (anticlockwise) circle train that started
from Edgware road on platform 2, which necessitated crossing from
the other island where the westbound Hammersmith train (albeit a
Metropolitan) had arrived at platform 4.

To achieve a cross-platform change I would have had to wait until a
District Line train reversed in platform 3 (there was none present
at the time). And then changed again if I really wanted the Circle.

Now do people believe me?


Sorry Colin, but what is there to not believe?

All Roland has described is the standard platforming, as discussed here in
u.t.l many times previously, and EXACTLY as described in last October's TfL
leaflet...

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...on-dl-2611.pdf

Paul S

In message , at 19:01:29 on
Wed, 24 Feb 2010, Paul Scott remarked:

Sorry Colin, but what is there to not believe?

All Roland has described is the standard platforming, as discussed here in
u.t.l many times previously, and EXACTLY as described in last October's TfL
leaflet...

I was under the impression that it would be possible to change without
climbing the stairs. But this is clearly not implemented westbound.
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry wrote on 24 February 2010 21:05:20 ...
In message , at 19:01:29 on
Wed, 24 Feb 2010, Paul Scott remarked:
Sorry Colin, but what is there to not believe?

All Roland has described is the standard platforming, as discussed here in
u.t.l many times previously, and EXACTLY as described in last October's TfL
leaflet...

I was under the impression that it would be possible to change without
climbing the stairs. But this is clearly not implemented westbound.

Yes it is. There is cross-platform interchange to a District train to
Wimbledon via High Street Kensington. I realise that if you wanted to
go further round the Circle, you'd also have to alight at HSK and wait
on the same platform there.

What were the origin and destination of your journey? It is relevant to
this discussion.
--
Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)

In article ,
(Richard J.) wrote:


Yes it is. There is cross-platform interchange to a District train
to Wimbledon via High Street Kensington. I realise that if you
wanted to go further round the Circle, you'd also have to alight at
HSK and wait on the same platform there.

Not very convincing if there is no District train in sight!

--
Colin Rosenstiel

In message , at
02:17:12 on Thu, 25 Feb 2010, Richard J.
remarked:
Sorry Colin, but what is there to not believe?

All Roland has described is the standard platforming, as discussed here in
u.t.l many times previously, and EXACTLY as described in last October's TfL
leaflet...
I was under the impression that it would be possible to change
without climbing the stairs. But this is clearly not implemented
westbound.

Yes it is. There is cross-platform interchange to a District train to
Wimbledon via High Street Kensington. I realise that if you wanted to
go further round the Circle, you'd also have to alight at HSK and wait
on the same platform there.

What were the origin and destination of your journey? It is relevant
to this discussion.

I was travelling from Rurostar@StP to the Wimbledon branch. Given that
there was no District Line train waiting at Edgware Rd, but there was a
Circle train, I decided to try going via Gloucester Rd (yes, another up
and down the stairs change required).

Given where I was starting from, I couldn't be bothered to trek all the
way to the Piccadilly Line.

ps. On the way back at 8pm the line was closed at Notting Hill (signal
failure) so the train went to Mansion House rather than Edgware Rd. I
changed to at Victoria for St Pancras (MML).
--
Roland Perry

In message , at 12:21:05
on Wed, 24 Feb 2010, remarked:
I'm on a "via Victoria" (anticlockwise) circle train that started
from Edgware road on platform 2, which necessitated crossing from
the other island where the westbound Hammersmith train (albeit a
Metropolitan) had arrived at platform 4.

To achieve a cross-platform change I would have had to wait until a
District Line train reversed in platform 3 (there was none present
at the time). And then changed again if I really wanted the Circle.

Now do people believe me?

How clearly was the arrangement indicated at Edgware Road, by the way? I'm
thinking of both announcements and indicators on the platforms.

The platforms have permanent signs which clearly state where the trains
will be heading. There was also a PA announcement at the station, and
one or two on the train (or possibly on the platform at earlier
stations) before it arrived.
--
Roland Perry

In article , (Roland
Perry) wrote:

In message , at
12:21:05 on Wed, 24 Feb 2010, remarked:
I'm on a "via Victoria" (anticlockwise) circle train that started
from Edgware road on platform 2, which necessitated crossing from
the other island where the westbound Hammersmith train (albeit a
Metropolitan) had arrived at platform 4.

To achieve a cross-platform change I would have had to wait until a
District Line train reversed in platform 3 (there was none present
at the time). And then changed again if I really wanted the Circle.

Now do people believe me?

How clearly was the arrangement indicated at Edgware Road, by the way?
I'm thinking of both announcements and indicators on the platforms.

The platforms have permanent signs which clearly state where the
trains will be heading.

And when trains don't use the right platforms, as Walter Briscoe reports
elsewhere (Eastbound Circle on 2)?

There was also a PA announcement at the
station, and one or two on the train (or possibly on the platform
at earlier stations) before it arrived.

Saying what (in gist)?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

In message , at 18:57:26
on Wed, 24 Feb 2010, remarked:
The platforms have permanent signs which clearly state where the
trains will be heading.

And when trains don't use the right platforms, as Walter Briscoe reports
elsewhere (Eastbound Circle on 2)?

They are painted (enamelled or whatever) signs. So will be inaccurate as
soon as there's disruption.

There was also a PA announcement at the
station, and one or two on the train (or possibly on the platform
at earlier stations) before it arrived.

Saying what (in gist)?

The one at Edgware Road was advertising the Circle Line train on
platform 2, the one on the train was warning that the Circle was now
"permanently" [1] teacupped, and that a change at ER was required for
people wanting to continue their CL journey.

[1] That's a very long time, even in politics.
--
Roland Perry