I'm on a "via Victoria" (anticlockwise) circle train that started from
Edgware road on platform 2, which necessitated crossing from the other
island where the westbound Hammersmith train (albeit a Metropolitan) had
arrived at platform 4.

To achieve a cross-platform change I would have had to wait until a
District Line train reversed in platform 3 (there was none present at
the time). And then changed again if I really wanted the Circle.
--
Roland Perry

In article , (Roland
Perry) wrote:

I'm on a "via Victoria" (anticlockwise) circle train that started
from Edgware road on platform 2, which necessitated crossing from
the other island where the westbound Hammersmith train (albeit a
Metropolitan) had arrived at platform 4.

To achieve a cross-platform change I would have had to wait until a
District Line train reversed in platform 3 (there was none present
at the time). And then changed again if I really wanted the Circle.

Now do people believe me?

How clearly was the arrangement indicated at Edgware Road, by the way? I'm
thinking of both announcements and indicators on the platforms.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

wrote in message
...
In article , (Roland
Perry) wrote:

I'm on a "via Victoria" (anticlockwise) circle train that started
from Edgware road on platform 2, which necessitated crossing from
the other island where the westbound Hammersmith train (albeit a
Metropolitan) had arrived at platform 4.

To achieve a cross-platform change I would have had to wait until a
District Line train reversed in platform 3 (there was none present
at the time). And then changed again if I really wanted the Circle.

Now do people believe me?


Sorry Colin, but what is there to not believe?

All Roland has described is the standard platforming, as discussed here in
u.t.l many times previously, and EXACTLY as described in last October's TfL
leaflet...

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...on-dl-2611.pdf

Paul S

In message , at 12:21:05
on Wed, 24 Feb 2010, remarked:
I'm on a "via Victoria" (anticlockwise) circle train that started
from Edgware road on platform 2, which necessitated crossing from
the other island where the westbound Hammersmith train (albeit a
Metropolitan) had arrived at platform 4.

To achieve a cross-platform change I would have had to wait until a
District Line train reversed in platform 3 (there was none present
at the time). And then changed again if I really wanted the Circle.

Now do people believe me?

How clearly was the arrangement indicated at Edgware Road, by the way? I'm
thinking of both announcements and indicators on the platforms.

The platforms have permanent signs which clearly state where the trains
will be heading. There was also a PA announcement at the station, and
one or two on the train (or possibly on the platform at earlier
stations) before it arrived.
--
Roland Perry

In message , at 19:01:29 on
Wed, 24 Feb 2010, Paul Scott remarked:

Sorry Colin, but what is there to not believe?

All Roland has described is the standard platforming, as discussed here in
u.t.l many times previously, and EXACTLY as described in last October's TfL
leaflet...

I was under the impression that it would be possible to change without
climbing the stairs. But this is clearly not implemented westbound.
--
Roland Perry

In message of Wed, 24 Feb
2010 19:05:57 in uk.transport.london, Paul Corfield
writes
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 12:21:05 -0600,
wrote:

In article , (Roland
Perry) wrote:

I'm on a "via Victoria" (anticlockwise) circle train that started
from Edgware road on platform 2, which necessitated crossing from
the other island where the westbound Hammersmith train (albeit a
Metropolitan) had arrived at platform 4.

To achieve a cross-platform change I would have had to wait until a
District Line train reversed in platform 3 (there was none present
at the time). And then changed again if I really wanted the Circle.

Now do people believe me?

Colin I don't think anyone has not believed you. We just don't see
platforming at Edgware Rd and the split Circle Line as being the end of
civilisation as we know it.

Closer to that was an ERD incident at about 8.15 2010/02/24.
I arrived on a District on platform 3 and took stairs to platform 1
where a fairly packed Barking waited. After a couple of minutes, an
inaudible driver PA was given. I spoke to the driver who was waiting for
a relieving driver. A fairly packed Circle arrived on platform 2.
Transfer to this was suggested, but it could not take the stress. The
relieving driver arrived and many returned to the Barking train which
left first. Circle line trains occasionally go east from platform 2.

What sort of incident investigation would this stimulate?
My experience of ERD is that driver availability delays are common.
--
Walter Briscoe

Roland Perry wrote:
I'm on a "via Victoria" (anticlockwise) circle train that started from
Edgware road on platform 2, which necessitated crossing from the other
island where the westbound Hammersmith train (albeit a Metropolitan)
had arrived at platform 4.

???

The Metropolitan hasn't run to Edgware Road for nearly twenty years, before
the H&C was so christened!

In article ,
(Paul Corfield) wrote:

On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 12:21:05 -0600,
wrote:

In article , (Roland
Perry) wrote:

I'm on a "via Victoria" (anticlockwise) circle train that started
from Edgware road on platform 2, which necessitated crossing from
the other island where the westbound Hammersmith train (albeit a
Metropolitan) had arrived at platform 4.

To achieve a cross-platform change I would have had to wait until a
District Line train reversed in platform 3 (there was none present
at the time). And then changed again if I really wanted the Circle.

Now do people believe me?

Colin I don't think anyone has not believed you. We just don't see
platforming at Edgware Rd and the split Circle Line as being the end of
civilisation as we know it.

Maybe not that, but hardly in line with the DDA.

It's asking a lot of passengers who don't want to have to struggle over
the Edgware Road footbridge to believe they can avoid that by getting a
District train that is nowhere to be seen.

I asked Roland about signs in case they held out any promises to anyone
who might have thought of waiting.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

In article , (Roland
Perry) wrote:

In message , at
12:21:05 on Wed, 24 Feb 2010, remarked:
I'm on a "via Victoria" (anticlockwise) circle train that started
from Edgware road on platform 2, which necessitated crossing from
the other island where the westbound Hammersmith train (albeit a
Metropolitan) had arrived at platform 4.

To achieve a cross-platform change I would have had to wait until a
District Line train reversed in platform 3 (there was none present
at the time). And then changed again if I really wanted the Circle.

Now do people believe me?

How clearly was the arrangement indicated at Edgware Road, by the way?
I'm thinking of both announcements and indicators on the platforms.

The platforms have permanent signs which clearly state where the
trains will be heading.

And when trains don't use the right platforms, as Walter Briscoe reports
elsewhere (Eastbound Circle on 2)?

There was also a PA announcement at the
station, and one or two on the train (or possibly on the platform
at earlier stations) before it arrived.

Saying what (in gist)?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Roland Perry wrote on 24 February 2010 21:05:20 ...
In message , at 19:01:29 on
Wed, 24 Feb 2010, Paul Scott remarked:
Sorry Colin, but what is there to not believe?

All Roland has described is the standard platforming, as discussed here in
u.t.l many times previously, and EXACTLY as described in last October's TfL
leaflet...

I was under the impression that it would be possible to change without
climbing the stairs. But this is clearly not implemented westbound.

Yes it is. There is cross-platform interchange to a District train to
Wimbledon via High Street Kensington. I realise that if you wanted to
go further round the Circle, you'd also have to alight at HSK and wait
on the same platform there.

What were the origin and destination of your journey? It is relevant to
this discussion.
--
Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)