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"Kat" wrote in message
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Dark green and looked kind of older than others on that route..
Anyone know what that's about?

Seen near St Pauls (station) this morning BTW
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It's an RMC (RouteMaster Country) bus. I believe it's based at Upton Park
garage, but am not 100% on that. As many will know, the traditional London
Buses are being phased out over the coming months, the 15, 11 and 23 have
already lost all the RM's. There have been some excellent "last night"
celebrations on each route, with some real gems for enthusiasts and
photographers - early RM's in original condition, RT's, RTW's and RMC's have
all been seen in recent weeks.

The one you saw Kat is ticketed to run in normal passenger service, for most
of this year it was on the 15.

HTH

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"Kat" wrote in message
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Dark green and looked kind of older than others on that route..
Anyone know what that's about?

Seen near St Pauls (station) this morning BTW
--
Kat Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should

relax
and get used to the idea - Robert A. Heinlein


It's an RMC (RouteMaster Country) bus. I believe it's based at Upton Park
garage, but am not 100% on that. As many will know, the traditional London
Buses are being phased out over the coming months, the 15, 11 and 23 have
already lost all the RM's. There have been some excellent "last night"
celebrations on each route, with some real gems for enthusiasts and
photographers - early RM's in original condition, RT's, RTW's and RMC's

have
all been seen in recent weeks.

The one you saw Kat is ticketed to run in normal passenger service, for

most
of this year it was on the 15.

HTH

RayB


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as someone has already painted out it is RML2456 that was painted green as
part of the "celebrations" for the opo conversion of the 15 and now operates
on the 8 (until that goes opo next year) The RMC's that used to operate on
the 15 have all been sold.
2456 was new as a green bus in the old County Department of LT, hence why it
was chosen to be painted green.

Paul


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as someone has already painted out it is RML2456 that was painted green as
part of the "celebrations" for the opo conversion of the 15 and now operates
on the 8 (until that goes opo next year) The RMC's that used to operate on
the 15 have all been sold.
2456 was new as a green bus in the old County Department of LT, hence why it
was chosen to be painted green.

Thanks.
You mentioned that the one I saw and the others have been sold; any idea
where they might be going?
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Kat Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax

and get used to the idea - Robert A. Heinlein


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Do we know the date of the conversion to Route 8 to OPO as following
the recent conversions of 11, 15 and 23 it is now the last Routemaster
route going through City of London.

Martin



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as someone has already painted out it is RML2456 that was painted green as
part of the "celebrations" for the opo conversion of the 15 and now operates
on the 8 (until that goes opo next year) The RMC's that used to operate on
the 15 have all been sold.
2456 was new as a green bus in the old County Department of LT, hence why it
was chosen to be painted green.

Thanks.
You mentioned that the one I saw and the others have been sold; any idea
where they might be going?

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"Martin Whelton" wrote in message
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Do we know the date of the conversion to Route 8 to OPO as following
the recent conversions of 11, 15 and 23 it is now the last Routemaster
route going through City of London.

Martin



Kat wrote in message

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In message , Paul Dredge
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as someone has already painted out it is RML2456 that was painted green

as
part of the "celebrations" for the opo conversion of the 15 and now

operates
on the 8 (until that goes opo next year) The RMC's that used to operate

on
the 15 have all been sold.
2456 was new as a green bus in the old County Department of LT, hence

why it
was chosen to be painted green.

Thanks.
You mentioned that the one I saw and the others have been sold; any idea
where they might be going?


It is just quoted as "summer 2004" currently.

and to answer another question, yes all the 8's Routemasters are based at
Bow and no they are not outstationed anywhere else




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Kat wrote in message

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Thanks.
You mentioned that the one I saw and the others have been sold; any idea
where they might be going?


It is just quoted as "summer 2004" currently.

and to answer another question, yes all the 8's Routemasters are based at
Bow and no they are not outstationed anywhere else


Thanks.
I see from your reply that the correct term is "outstationed"
Would this also be used for trams/streetcars?
Also, I wondered who buys whole fleets of London buses when they are
replaced?
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"Kat" wrote in message
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I see from your reply that the correct term is "outstationed"


I don't see how the word could be used with buses. Although tube lines
usually have a depot or two and several sidings elsewhere, I don't think
there is a bus equivalent to sidings. If a route uses buses from two
garages, which buses are "outstationed"?

Would this also be used for trams/streetcars?
Also, I wondered who buys whole fleets of
London buses when they are replaced?


Leicester... eeh, the place brings back memories, I even found some of my
teenage chewing gum stuck beneath the seats.

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On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 05:20:19 +0000, Kat wrote in
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In message , Paul Dredge
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[...]
and to answer another question, yes all the 8's Routemasters are based at
Bow and no they are not outstationed anywhere else

I see from your reply that the correct term is "outstationed"


No, not in the context you're thinking of.

Buses are "parked up" or "garaged", depending on operator. "Stabling"
is used in a bus context as well, I'm pretty sure, although despite
racking my brains I can't think of where...

"Outstations" are sub-depots, sometimes nothing more than the regular
driver's drive, where buses are parked overnight to start the service
the following day. Rural operators are more likely to outstation
buses, urban ones generally don't do so.


[...]
Also, I wondered who buys whole fleets of London buses when they are
replaced?


Now that the London companies are mostly owned by the big groups, the
answer to that one is often "nobody". What happens is they are
cascaded down to the provincial subsidiaries of the groups, allowing
them in turn to release vehicles to cascade to poorer subsidiaries -
or to sell to the scrapman as old junk, or to enthusiasts who may not
consider it to be old junk.

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"Paul Dredge" wrote in message

Dark green and looked kind of older than others on that route..
Anyone know what that's about?
Seen near St Pauls (station) this morning BTW

Older than a routemaster! Must have had horses on the front?

There have been some excellent "last night" celebrations on each route,
with some real gems for enthusiasts and photographers - early RM's in
original condition, RT's, RTW's and RMC's

So these dinosaurs are finally getting the chop, welcome to the 1970's.!

as someone has already painted out it is RML2456 that was painted green as
part of the "celebrations" for the opo conversion of the 15 and now operates
on the 8 (until that goes opo next year) The RMC's that used to operate on
the 15 have all been sold. 2456 was new as a green bus in the old County
Department of LT, hence why it
was chosen to be painted green.

So was the 8 a country area route then or am I missing something?

Duncan Robinson



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"Paul Dredge" wrote in message

Dark green and looked kind of older than others on that route..
Anyone know what that's about?
Seen near St Pauls (station) this morning BTW

Older than a routemaster! Must have had horses on the front?


LOL.
For someone who doesn't know her regal from her regent, I thought I did
well noticing it was green......
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Kat Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax

and get used to the idea - Robert A. Heinlein




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