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Do we know the date of the conversion to Route 8 to OPO as following
the recent conversions of 11, 15 and 23 it is now the last Routemaster route going through City of London. Martin Kat wrote in message ... In message , Paul Dredge writes as someone has already painted out it is RML2456 that was painted green as part of the "celebrations" for the opo conversion of the 15 and now operates on the 8 (until that goes opo next year) The RMC's that used to operate on the 15 have all been sold. 2456 was new as a green bus in the old County Department of LT, hence why it was chosen to be painted green. Thanks. You mentioned that the one I saw and the others have been sold; any idea where they might be going? |
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"Martin Whelton" wrote in message om... Do we know the date of the conversion to Route 8 to OPO as following the recent conversions of 11, 15 and 23 it is now the last Routemaster route going through City of London. Martin Kat wrote in message ... In message , Paul Dredge writes as someone has already painted out it is RML2456 that was painted green as part of the "celebrations" for the opo conversion of the 15 and now operates on the 8 (until that goes opo next year) The RMC's that used to operate on the 15 have all been sold. 2456 was new as a green bus in the old County Department of LT, hence why it was chosen to be painted green. Thanks. You mentioned that the one I saw and the others have been sold; any idea where they might be going? It is just quoted as "summer 2004" currently. and to answer another question, yes all the 8's Routemasters are based at Bow and no they are not outstationed anywhere else |
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In message , Paul Dredge
writes Kat wrote in message ... Thanks. You mentioned that the one I saw and the others have been sold; any idea where they might be going? It is just quoted as "summer 2004" currently. and to answer another question, yes all the 8's Routemasters are based at Bow and no they are not outstationed anywhere else Thanks. I see from your reply that the correct term is "outstationed" Would this also be used for trams/streetcars? Also, I wondered who buys whole fleets of London buses when they are replaced? -- Kat There are two means of refuge from the miseries of life: music and cats. Albert Schweitzer |
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"Kat" wrote in message
... I see from your reply that the correct term is "outstationed" I don't see how the word could be used with buses. Although tube lines usually have a depot or two and several sidings elsewhere, I don't think there is a bus equivalent to sidings. If a route uses buses from two garages, which buses are "outstationed"? Would this also be used for trams/streetcars? Also, I wondered who buys whole fleets of London buses when they are replaced? Leicester... eeh, the place brings back memories, I even found some of my teenage chewing gum stuck beneath the seats. -- John Rowland - Spamtrapped Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood. That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line - It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes |
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"John Rowland" wrote in message ... "Kat" wrote in message ... I see from your reply that the correct term is "outstationed" I don't see how the word could be used with buses. Although tube lines usually have a depot or two and several sidings elsewhere, I don't think there is a bus equivalent to sidings. If a route uses buses from two garages, which buses are "outstationed"? -- John Rowland - Spamtrapped Not in London admittedly but some operators do use outstations. Stagecoach whatever down here have a yard near Haslemere station where buses from Aldershot's allocation are kept overnight (and between school runs) to save them having to go back to Aldershot each night. It appears to be no more than a bit of dirt ground in a car park. Paul |
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On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 05:20:19 +0000, Kat wrote in
, seen in uk.transport.buses: In message , Paul Dredge writes [...] and to answer another question, yes all the 8's Routemasters are based at Bow and no they are not outstationed anywhere else I see from your reply that the correct term is "outstationed" No, not in the context you're thinking of. Buses are "parked up" or "garaged", depending on operator. "Stabling" is used in a bus context as well, I'm pretty sure, although despite racking my brains I can't think of where... "Outstations" are sub-depots, sometimes nothing more than the regular driver's drive, where buses are parked overnight to start the service the following day. Rural operators are more likely to outstation buses, urban ones generally don't do so. [...] Also, I wondered who buys whole fleets of London buses when they are replaced? Now that the London companies are mostly owned by the big groups, the answer to that one is often "nobody". What happens is they are cascaded down to the provincial subsidiaries of the groups, allowing them in turn to release vehicles to cascade to poorer subsidiaries - or to sell to the scrapman as old junk, or to enthusiasts who may not consider it to be old junk. -- Ross Hamilton, in Lincoln (UK) From address *will* bounce |
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In message , Ross
writes On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 05:20:19 +0000, Kat wrote in , seen in uk.transport.buses: In message , Paul Dredge writes [...] and to answer another question, yes all the 8's Routemasters are based at Bow and no they are not outstationed anywhere else I see from your reply that the correct term is "outstationed" No, not in the context you're thinking of. Buses are "parked up" or "garaged", depending on operator. "Stabling" is used in a bus context as well, I'm pretty sure, although despite racking my brains I can't think of where... "Outstations" are sub-depots, sometimes nothing more than the regular driver's drive, where buses are parked overnight to start the service the following day. Rural operators are more likely to outstation buses, urban ones generally don't do so. [...] Also, I wondered who buys whole fleets of London buses when they are replaced? Now that the London companies are mostly owned by the big groups, the answer to that one is often "nobody". What happens is they are cascaded down to the provincial subsidiaries of the groups, allowing them in turn to release vehicles to cascade to poorer subsidiaries - or to sell to the scrapman as old junk, or to enthusiasts who may not consider it to be old junk. Thanks... BTW, (for those reading this on UTL) There's what could be an interesting thread on uk.transport.buses entitled "OK - lets have some Christmas fun" and asking for "A 100 Uses for a Dead Bus"........ It needs some imaginative replies ;-) -- Kat |
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In article , Ross
writes On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 05:20:19 +0000, Kat wrote in , seen in uk.transport.buses: In message , Paul Dredge writes [...] and to answer another question, yes all the 8's Routemasters are based at Bow and no they are not outstationed anywhere else I see from your reply that the correct term is "outstationed" No, not in the context you're thinking of. Buses are "parked up" or "garaged", depending on operator. "Stabling" is used in a bus context as well, I'm pretty sure, although despite racking my brains I can't think of where... "Outstations" are sub-depots, sometimes nothing more than the regular driver's drive, where buses are parked overnight to start the service the following day. Rural operators are more likely to outstation buses, urban ones generally don't do so. Is calling an outstation a "Dormy" or "Dormy Garage" a practice exclusive to the old Midland Red, or was that a widespread term? Someone here is bound to know, Ross being at the top of the list! (Incidentally, Ross, perhaps you'd like to send me your current e-mail address, as I've managed to lose it!) -- Ian Jelf, MITG, Birmingham, UK Registered "Blue Badge" Tourist Guide for London & the Heart of England http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk |
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"Ian Jelf" wrote in message
... Is calling an outstation a "Dormy" or "Dormy Garage" a practice exclusive to the old Midland Red, or was that a widespread term? Someone here is bound to know, Ross being at the top of the list! No, it was a commonly-used term in the industry. Dormy Shed is another variation. Outpost is another that I have heard. -- Terry Harper, Web Co-ordinator, The Omnibus Society http://www.omnibussoc.org E-mail: URL: http://www.terry.harper.btinternet.co.uk/ |
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On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 23:37:59 +0000 (UTC), "Terry Harper"
wrote: "Ian Jelf" wrote in message ... Is calling an outstation a "Dormy" or "Dormy Garage" a practice exclusive to the old Midland Red, or was that a widespread term? Someone here is bound to know, Ross being at the top of the list! No, it was a commonly-used term in the industry. Dormy Shed is another variation. Outpost is another that I have heard. London Transport used "outstation". In the 1960s, a bus was outstationed on the forecourt of the Royal Oak, Holmbury St. Mary each night, the drivers living nearby. The arrangement ceased when one of the drivers (known to all and sundry as "Curly" - I never knew his real name) retired. -- Bill Hayles http://billnot.com |
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