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BAA & HEX/CONnect Cash In On Tube Line Closure
As might be expected from the bankrupt wholly Spanish-owned BAA its
train services were cashing in big-time on the disruption to the Piccadilly Line this weekend. In the past All Zone Travel Cards have been accepted on both HEX and CONnect. However in an admirable demonstration of 'rip-off' Britiain, and at the expense of its long suffering airline passengers, BAA and its two Paddington / Heathrow train 'services' were not accepting any Travel Cards this weekend. Instead BAA was charging the usual full-price rip-off fares it normally does for its tatty and worn trains into outer London. And HEX staff were seen today (Sunday) at T5 ensuring that passengers do indeed pay the exorbitant £18 (whatever) SINGLE fare into West London. Indeed they were stationed at every TfL ticket machine deterring passengers from even thinking of going by tube/bus/tube into Central London. CJB. |
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On Mar 7, 8:56*pm, CJB wrote: As might be expected from the bankrupt wholly Spanish-owned BAA its train services were cashing in big-time on the disruption to the Piccadilly Line this weekend. In the past All Zone Travel Cards have been accepted on both HEX and CONnect. However in an admirable demonstration of 'rip-off' Britiain, and at the expense of its long suffering airline passengers, BAA and its two Paddington / Heathrow train 'services' were not accepting any Travel Cards this weekend. Instead BAA was charging the usual full-price rip-off fares it normally does for its tatty and worn trains into outer London. And HEX staff were seen today (Sunday) at T5 ensuring that passengers do indeed pay the exorbitant £18 (whatever) SINGLE fare into West London. Indeed they were stationed at every TfL ticket machine deterring passengers from even thinking of going by tube/bus/tube into Central London. CJB. Bingo - CJB, you do so love trotting out a BAA-bashing post each time a part of the Piccadilly line is closed 'out west' (i.e. somewhere twixt central London and Heathrow). When arrangements were made for HEx and Heathrow Connect (HC) to accept z1-6 Travelcards - and later any Oyster card (merely on sight) - then the fact that HEx and HC tickets continued to be sold was proof of rip-off Britain in your eyes. Now that there's no such arrangement, it's also proof of rip-off Britain in your eyes. |
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On 7 Mar, 20:56, CJB wrote:
As might be expected from the bankrupt wholly Spanish-owned BAA its train services were cashing in big-time on the disruption to the Piccadilly Line this weekend. In the past All Zone Travel Cards have been accepted on both HEX and CONnect. However in an admirable demonstration of 'rip-off' Britiain, and at the expense of its long suffering airline passengers, BAA and its two Paddington / Heathrow train 'services' were not accepting any Travel Cards this weekend. Instead BAA was charging the usual full-price rip-off fares it normally does for its tatty and worn trains into outer London. And HEX staff were seen today (Sunday) at T5 ensuring that passengers do indeed pay the exorbitant £18 (whatever) SINGLE fare into West London. Indeed they were stationed at every TfL ticket machine deterring passengers from even thinking of going by tube/bus/tube into Central London. CJB. Saturday 6 and Sunday 7 March, suspended between Hammersmith and Northfields and between Hammersmith and Ealing Common. There is no direct Underground service between Heathrow Airport and central London. Valid Underground tickets will be accepted on the rail replacement bus services shown below. Underground tickets are not valid for travel on Heathrow Express or Heathrow Connect services, please speak to a member of staff to buy a ticket valid for use on these routes. Replacement Bus Service B: between Ealing Broadway and Boston Manor non - stop. This express service is operated by low floor, single deck buses for customers travelling between central London and Heathrow Airport. Valid Underground tickets will be accepted. CJB moaning about nothing once again. |
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On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 12:56:26 -0800 (PST), CJB
wrote: As might be expected from the bankrupt wholly Spanish-owned BAA [rest of rant snipped] Another one who doesn't know the meaning of bankrupt. Do you have a relative named Polson? |
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"CJB" wrote in message
As might be expected from the bankrupt wholly Spanish-owned BAA BAA is neither bankrupt, nor wholly Spanish owned. Ferrovial is the lead partner in a consortium that also includes Caisse de dépôt et placement du Québec (CDPQ) and GIC Special Investments Pte Ltd. As I understand it, Ferrovial only has about 61%. See http://www.competition-commission.or...xt/545_1_2.pdf |
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CJB wrote:
As might be expected from the bankrupt wholly Spanish-owned BAA .... and might have written something else, but by this point it was obvious it wasn't worth reading. -- http://gallery120232.fotopic.net/p13309747.html (47 196 at Clapham Junction, 19 Jul 1981) |
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On Mar 7, 8:56*pm, CJB wrote:
As might be expected from the bankrupt wholly Spanish-owned BAA its train services were cashing in big-time on the disruption to the Piccadilly Line this weekend. In the past All Zone Travel Cards have been accepted on both HEX and CONnect. However in an admirable demonstration of 'rip-off' Britiain, and at the expense of its long suffering airline passengers, BAA and its two Paddington / Heathrow train 'services' were not accepting any Travel Cards this weekend. Instead BAA was charging the usual full-price rip-off fares it normally does for its tatty and worn trains into outer London. And HEX staff were seen today (Sunday) at T5 ensuring that passengers do indeed pay the exorbitant £18 (whatever) SINGLE fare into West London. Indeed they were stationed at every TfL ticket machine deterring passengers from even thinking of going by tube/bus/tube into Central London. CJB. Why don't you tell us what you really feel? |
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On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 13:13:51 -0800 (PST)
Mizter T wrote: Bingo - CJB, you do so love trotting out a BAA-bashing post each time a part of the Piccadilly line is closed 'out west' (i.e. somewhere twixt central London and Heathrow). When arrangements were made for HEx and Heathrow Connect (HC) to accept z1-6 Travelcards - and later any Oyster card (merely on sight) - then the fact that HEx and HC tickets continued to be sold was proof of rip-off Britain in your eyes. Now that there's no such arrangement, it's also proof of rip-off Britain in your eyes. The heathrow services are part of the london rail network. Theres no reason for them NOT to accept travelcards other than the fact they're given special treatment for reasons no doubt involving brown envelopes down at whitehall. The only reason they can still charge extortionate fares is because there are enough mugs willing to pay them. Why anyone would pay 15 odd quid to be dumped at paddington is a mystery to me. Personally I'd just take a taxi but then I long ago gave up relying on public transport to get me to and from airports anyway after a couple of close shaves due to the piccadilly line ****ing up. B2003 |
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B2003 Personally I'd just take a taxi And pay £60 - £80 for the privalege because we all know that no one has ever missed a flight from LHR because of traffic f*** ups on the M4/A4/M25. |
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On Mar 7, 8:56*pm, CJB wrote:
Instead BAA was charging the usual full-price rip-off fares it normally does for its tatty and worn trains into outer London. ???? What trains are these then? I thought they were quite new |
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On 8 Mar, 11:08, wrote:
On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 13:13:51 -0800 (PST) Mizter T wrote: Bingo - CJB, you do so love trotting out a BAA-bashing post each time a part of the Piccadilly line is closed 'out west' (i.e. somewhere twixt central London and Heathrow). When arrangements were made for HEx and Heathrow Connect (HC) to accept z1-6 Travelcards - and later any Oyster card (merely on sight) - then the fact that HEx and HC tickets continued to be sold was proof of rip-off Britain in your eyes. Now that there's no such arrangement, it's also proof of rip-off Britain in your eyes. The heathrow services are part of the london rail network. Theres no reason for them NOT to accept travelcards other than the fact they're given special treatment for reasons no doubt involving brown envelopes down at whitehall. The only reason they can still charge extortionate fares is because there are enough mugs willing to pay them. Why anyone would pay 15 odd quid to be dumped at paddington is a mystery to me. Personally I'd just take a taxi but then I long ago gave up relying on public transport to get me to and from airports anyway after a couple of close shaves due to the piccadilly line ****ing up. B2003 The route is wholly financed by the BAA and is priced to be in competition with taxis. It receives no money from TFL and therefore does not accept TFL tickets. |
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On 8 Mar, 11:16, wrote:
On Mar 7, 8:56*pm, CJB wrote: Instead BAA was charging the usual full-price rip-off fares it normally does for its tatty and worn trains into outer London. ???? What trains are these then? I thought they were quite new Plus how would he know? I thought he refused to use them. They were fine in January when I last used them, wearing very well considering they are in line for an internal refresh. |
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On 8 Mar, 11:08, wrote:
On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 13:13:51 -0800 (PST) Mizter T wrote: Bingo - CJB, you do so love trotting out a BAA-bashing post each time a part of the Piccadilly line is closed 'out west' (i.e. somewhere twixt central London and Heathrow). When arrangements were made for HEx and Heathrow Connect (HC) to accept z1-6 Travelcards - and later any Oyster card (merely on sight) - then the fact that HEx and HC tickets continued to be sold was proof of rip-off Britain in your eyes. Now that there's no such arrangement, it's also proof of rip-off Britain in your eyes. The heathrow services are part of the london rail network. Theres no reason for them NOT to accept travelcards other than the fact they're given special treatment for reasons no doubt involving brown envelopes down at whitehall. The only reason they can still charge extortionate fares is because there are enough mugs willing to pay them. Why anyone would pay 15 odd quid to be dumped at paddington is a mystery to me. Personally I'd just take a taxi but then I long ago gave up relying on public transport to get me to and from airports anyway after a couple of close shaves due to the piccadilly line ****ing up. B2003 The route is wholly financed by the BAA and is priced to be in competition with taxis. It receives no money from TFL and therefore does not accept TFL tickets. |
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On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 03:15:02 -0800 (PST)
TonySK14 wrote: B2003 Personally I'd just take a taxi And pay =A360 - =A380 for the privalege because we all know that no one has ever missed a flight from LHR because of traffic f*** ups on the M4/A4/M25. At least you can listen to the travel news while you go there and the cabbie can switch to a different route if theres a problem. If you get stuck in a tube tunnel because some dick of a driver hasn't turned up on time for his shift and the trains are backing up or someone has decided to top themselves at acton station what other options do you have? Figure out 3 changes of bus and miss the flight anyway? To hell with that. Sorry, but I wouldn't trust the tube to get me anywhere on time anymore and I've voted with my wallet even if taxis do cost a lot more. Sod TfL and LU. B2003 |
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TonySK14 wrote: B2003 Personally I'd just take a taxi And pay £60 - £80 for the privalege because we all know that no one has ever missed a flight from LHR because of traffic f*** ups on the M4/A4/M25. M3! -- Graeme Wall This address not read, substitute trains for rail Transport Miscellany at www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail Photo galleries at http://graeme-wall.fotopic.net/ |
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On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 11:42:33 +0000
Ivor The Engine wrote: On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 11:08:22 +0000 (UTC), d wrote: The only reason they can still charge extortionate fares is because there are enough mugs willing to pay them. Are you talking about HEx, or taxi firms? HEx. It would be worth the cost if it went to central london but it terminates at paddington and so most people are going to have to get the tube anyway. So whats its point? You might just as well get the tube in the first place from heathrow. What are the cheapest options for getting into central London from Heathrow? Piccadilly line if you want to risk it. Boltar World is a very odd place. I'm glad I live in the real one. Why? If I've forked out a grand on a holiday whats 50 quid for a taxi to make sure I actually make it to the airport? Plus its door to door , no lugging suitcases along streets and in train stations and waiting for a train to actually bother to show up. B2003 |
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On 08/03/2010 11:54, d wrote:
On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 11:42:33 +0000 Ivor The wrote: On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 11:08:22 +0000 (UTC), d wrote: The only reason they can still charge extortionate fares is because there are enough mugs willing to pay them. Are you talking about HEx, or taxi firms? HEx. It would be worth the cost if it went to central london but it terminates at paddington and so most people are going to have to get the tube anyway. So whats its point? HEx+taxi can be cheaper than taxi all the way. The key things to know about Heathrow Express are a) it is designed to compete with taxis, not with the Underground, or buses, cycling, walking or pogo sticks. b) BAA paid for it, so it is their toy, and they can charge whatever they want. If World+Dog wanted to set the fairs, W+D should have paid to build it. -- Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK |
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On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 11:54:08 +0000 (UTC), d
wrote: Why? If I've forked out a grand on a holiday whats 50 quid for a taxi to make sure I actually make it to the airport? How you choose to travel is unimportant. You pays your money, etc. But your initial rant was that HEx fares are extortionate, which in context they are not. Your confidence in taxis as a reliable form of transport is almost as amusing. |
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wrote in message ... On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 13:13:51 -0800 (PST) Mizter T wrote: Bingo - CJB, you do so love trotting out a BAA-bashing post each time a part of the Piccadilly line is closed 'out west' (i.e. somewhere twixt central London and Heathrow). When arrangements were made for HEx and Heathrow Connect (HC) to accept z1-6 Travelcards - and later any Oyster card (merely on sight) - then the fact that HEx and HC tickets continued to be sold was proof of rip-off Britain in your eyes. Now that there's no such arrangement, it's also proof of rip-off Britain in your eyes. The heathrow services are part of the london rail network. Theres no reason for them NOT to accept travelcards other than the fact they're given special treatment for reasons no doubt involving brown envelopes down at whitehall. It was given special treatment because its construction wasn't paid for by Government. Try finding another new railway that wasn't! tim |
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CJB wrote:
As might be expected from the bankrupt wholly Spanish-owned BAA its train services were cashing in big-time on the disruption to the Piccadilly Line this weekend. In the past All Zone Travel Cards have been accepted on both HEX and CONnect. However in an admirable demonstration of 'rip-off' Britiain, and at the expense of its long suffering airline passengers, BAA and its two Paddington / Heathrow train 'services' were not accepting any Travel Cards this weekend. Instead BAA was charging the usual full-price rip-off fares it normally does for its tatty and worn trains into outer London. And HEX staff were seen today (Sunday) at T5 ensuring that passengers do indeed pay the exorbitant £18 (whatever) SINGLE fare into West London. Indeed they were stationed at every TfL ticket machine deterring passengers from even thinking of going by tube/bus/tube into Central London. CJB. Other people have made the valid point about BAA owning/funding Heathrow Express: All good points, which I'd associate myself with. However, if I where part of the authorities making decisions about BAA's future expansion plans I think I'd be using this as a bargaining chip... Something along the lines of "you can have your sixth terminal but as part of the deal, you must improve and reduce the cost of public transport to the airport, including accepting travelcards and Oyster cards on the Connect." Even without such a deal, how difficult would it be to accept Oyster on Heathrow Connect with surcharge added when someone touches in or out at Heathrow? |
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Philip wrote:
Even without such a deal, how difficult would it be to accept Oyster on Heathrow Connect with surcharge added when someone touches in or out at Heathrow? Not at all difficult, it just needs a suitable zone defining, beyond zone 6, so let's call it zone 'H' It is after all what happens at Watford Junction's zone W, which is beyond zone 8. Paul S |
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"Paul Scott" wrote in message ... Philip wrote: Even without such a deal, how difficult would it be to accept Oyster on Heathrow Connect with surcharge added when someone touches in or out at Heathrow? Not at all difficult, it just needs a suitable zone defining, beyond zone 6, so let's call it zone 'H' BAA don't want ticket gates for their platforms at Heathrow, though this might not be a problem if TfL (and their customers) were prepared to accept increased charges for unresolved journeys, in case they ended at Heathrow Connect. More to the point, can TfL come up with a method of using Oyster PAYG as far as Hayes & Harlington then a paper ticket on to Heathrow. How does a passenger touch out while staying on the train at Hayes & Harlington? Peter |
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19:12:09 on Mon, 8 Mar 2010, Philip remarked: However, if I where part of the authorities making decisions about BAA's future expansion plans I think I'd be using this as a bargaining chip... Something along the lines of "you can have your sixth terminal but as part of the deal, you must improve and reduce the cost of public transport to the airport, including accepting travelcards and Oyster cards on the Connect." TPTB already have proxies for this, because of limits (in the planning process) on number of vehicle movements and air pollution. So the only tenable solution, for BAA to meet those targets, is for them to ensure more people get a train. A cheaper fares structure is one way to increase ridership, but not the only one. -- Roland Perry |
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In message , at 20:05:30 on
Mon, 8 Mar 2010, Peter Masson remarked: BAA don't want ticket gates for their platforms at Heathrow It would make the trains harder to use as free inter-terminal shuttles. In fact, you'd have to issue FOC "platform tickets", which would completely nullify having barriers at all!! -- Roland Perry |
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On Mar 8, 8:05*pm, "Peter Masson" wrote: "Paul Scott" wrote: Even without such a deal, how difficult would it be to accept Oyster on Heathrow Connect with surcharge added when someone touches in or out at Heathrow? Not at all difficult, it just needs a suitable zone defining, beyond zone 6, so let's call it zone 'H' BAA don't want ticket gates for their platforms at Heathrow, though this might not be a problem if TfL (and their customers) were prepared to accept increased charges for unresolved journeys, in case they ended at Heathrow Connect. More to the point, can TfL come up with a method of using Oyster PAYG as far as Hayes & Harlington then a paper ticket on to Heathrow. How does a passenger touch out while staying on the train at Hayes & Harlington? They don't. Come Crossrail, they won't - Oyster PAYG will inevitably be accepted on the whole route. Somehow! |
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Peter Masson wrote:
"Paul Scott" wrote in message ... Philip wrote: Even without such a deal, how difficult would it be to accept Oyster on Heathrow Connect with surcharge added when someone touches in or out at Heathrow? Not at all difficult, it just needs a suitable zone defining, beyond zone 6, so let's call it zone 'H' BAA don't want ticket gates for their platforms at Heathrow, though this might not be a problem if TfL (and their customers) were prepared to accept increased charges for unresolved journeys, in case they ended at Heathrow Connect. More to the point, can TfL come up with a method of using Oyster PAYG as far as Hayes & Harlington then a paper ticket on to Heathrow. How does a passenger touch out while staying on the train at Hayes & Harlington? I'd completely forgotten the free transfers, which would be a real pain to deal with. But I suppose in principle they could have standalone validators, without gates. If they ever build Airtrack there'll have to be a means of paying for journeys to/from Staines, so a few things might have to change... Paul S |
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Peter Masson wrote:
BAA don't want ticket gates for their platforms at Heathrow, though this might not be a problem if TfL (and their customers) were prepared to accept increased charges for unresolved journeys, in case they ended at Heathrow Connect. More to the point, can TfL come up with a method of using Oyster PAYG as far as Hayes & Harlington then a paper ticket on to Heathrow. How does a passenger touch out while staying on the train at Hayes & Harlington? Why do they have to have gates? What's wrong with a few validators? It's what they on DLR and much of National Rail anyway. Philip. |
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Philip wrote:
Peter Masson wrote: BAA don't want ticket gates for their platforms at Heathrow, though this might not be a problem if TfL (and their customers) were prepared to accept increased charges for unresolved journeys, in case they ended at Heathrow Connect. More to the point, can TfL come up with a method of using Oyster PAYG as far as Hayes & Harlington then a paper ticket on to Heathrow. How does a passenger touch out while staying on the train at Hayes & Harlington? Why do they have to have gates? What's wrong with a few validators? It's what they on DLR and much of National Rail anyway. Also, the couple of times I've used Connect, my ticket has always been checked between Hayes and Heathrow. Could the ticket examiners carry some sort of portable validator? Philip. |
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On 9 Mar, 06:47, Philip wrote:
Philip wrote: Peter Masson wrote: BAA don't want ticket gates for their platforms at Heathrow, though this might not be a problem if TfL (and their customers) were prepared to accept increased charges for unresolved journeys, in case they ended at Heathrow Connect. More to the point, can TfL come up with a method of using Oyster PAYG as far as Hayes & Harlington then a paper ticket on to Heathrow. How does a passenger touch out while staying on the train at Hayes & Harlington? Why do they have to have gates? What's wrong with a few validators? It's what they on DLR and much of National Rail anyway. Also, the couple of times I've used Connect, my ticket has always been checked between Hayes and Heathrow. Could the ticket examiners carry some sort of portable validator? Philip. It didn't help getting to Heathrow last Saturday that the Circle Line was suspended, and the Hammersmith and City line was not stopping at Paddington. What price a bit of joined up thinking from LUL? Is that a pig I see flying past the window? |
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On Mar 9, 7:22*am, Paul wrote: On 9 Mar, 06:47, Philip wrote: Philip wrote: Peter Masson wrote: BAA don't want ticket gates for their platforms at Heathrow, though this might not be a problem if TfL (and their customers) were prepared to accept increased charges for unresolved journeys, in case they ended at Heathrow Connect. More to the point, can TfL come up with a method of using Oyster PAYG as far as Hayes & Harlington then a paper ticket on to Heathrow. How does a passenger touch out while staying on the train at Hayes & Harlington? Why do they have to have gates? What's wrong with a few validators? It's what they on DLR and much of National Rail anyway. Also, the couple of times I've used Connect, my ticket has always been checked between Hayes and Heathrow. Could the ticket examiners carry some sort of portable validator? It didn't help getting to Heathrow last Saturday that the Circle Line was suspended, and the Hammersmith and City line was not stopping at Paddington. What price a bit of joined up thinking from LUL? Is that a pig I see flying past the window? Which goes back to the original topic of the thread, which is somewhat obscured by the OP's general rant. Basically if standard ticketing (Travelcards and Oyster cards) were to be valid on HEx or Heathrow Connect to and from Heathrow, then BAA (who run the latter services) would want their pound of flesh in compensation - presumably the wodge of cash they demanded is too rich for TfL's blood. |
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On Mar 9, 6:47*am, Philip wrote: Philip wrote: Peter Masson wrote: BAA don't want ticket gates for their platforms at Heathrow, though this might not be a problem if TfL (and their customers) were prepared to accept increased charges for unresolved journeys, in case they ended at Heathrow Connect. More to the point, can TfL come up with a method of using Oyster PAYG as far as Hayes & Harlington then a paper ticket on to Heathrow. How does a passenger touch out while staying on the train at Hayes & Harlington? Why do they have to have gates? What's wrong with a few validators? It's what they on DLR and much of National Rail anyway. Given that HEx and Connect will be used by lots of people unfamiliar with the need to validate, having open platforms at either end (Heathrow stations and Paddington) might well prove problematic in terms of passengers failing to touch-in and out. Also, the couple of times I've used Connect, my ticket has always been checked between Hayes and Heathrow. Could the ticket examiners carry some sort of portable validator? That's a possibility, yes - though it would be a bit infeasible to require the ticket examiner to get round the whole train between Heathrow Central (T123) and Hayes and Harlington station. When Crossrail eventually arrives at Heathrow then I'm sure Oyster PAYG (or whatever it has become by that point) will be valid on teh Crossrail services at least. Whether HEx will still exist as a separate service is yet to be seen. Still, plenty of time for TPTB to sort all that out. |
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On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 18:18:51 +0000
Ivor The Engine wrote: On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 11:54:08 +0000 (UTC), d wrote: Why? If I've forked out a grand on a holiday whats 50 quid for a taxi to make sure I actually make it to the airport? How you choose to travel is unimportant. You pays your money, etc. But your initial rant was that HEx fares are extortionate, which in context they are not. For a train fare they are given the distance. Why suffer the hassle of rail transport for not far off the price of a taxi? Your confidence in taxis as a reliable form of transport is almost as amusing. I've never yet had a problem with a minicab turning up late or getting lost. The same with black cabs. B2003 |
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d wrote: On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 18:18:51 +0000 Ivor The Engine wrote: On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 11:54:08 +0000 (UTC), d wrote: Why? If I've forked out a grand on a holiday whats 50 quid for a taxi to make sure I actually make it to the airport? How you choose to travel is unimportant. You pays your money, etc. But your initial rant was that HEx fares are extortionate, which in context they are not. For a train fare they are given the distance. Why suffer the hassle of rail transport for not far off the price of a taxi? Why suffer the hassle of road travel when the train is cheaper? -- Graeme Wall This address not read, substitute trains for rail Transport Miscellany at www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail Photo galleries at http://graeme-wall.fotopic.net/ |
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On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 09:31:38 +0000 (UTC), d
wrote: I've never yet had a problem with a minicab turning up late or getting lost. The same with black cabs. Lucky you. I've had a minicab driver that thought Manchester Airport was off the M62 (it's the M56) and was heading for Warrington before I could point out he was going the wrong way. It added 22 miles to the journey. |
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On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 09:54:04 +0000
Graeme wrote: In message d wrote: On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 18:18:51 +0000 Ivor The Engine wrote: On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 11:54:08 +0000 (UTC), d wrote: Why? If I've forked out a grand on a holiday whats 50 quid for a taxi to make sure I actually make it to the airport? How you choose to travel is unimportant. You pays your money, etc. But your initial rant was that HEx fares are extortionate, which in context they are not. For a train fare they are given the distance. Why suffer the hassle of rail transport for not far off the price of a taxi? Why suffer the hassle of road travel when the train is cheaper? Convenience. Plus if the taxi does get stuck in a solid jam you can always get out and find a train. If the train gets stuck however, you're stuck unless it happens at a station. Like I said in a another post , the piccadilly line has almost caused me to miss flights twice at heathrow. Thats never going to happen again. Other countries manage to run their metro systems efficiently and with pride and they take the job seriously. Here its the usual half hearted can't-be-arsed British indifference. If something goes wrong, well who cares eh? The passengers can just sod off and get a bus or something. Put out a few standard issue excuses over the tannoy and leave it at that. Maybe it'll be fixed in an hour , maybe it won't. Manyana man... B2003 |
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On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 10:35:59 +0000 (UTC), d
wrote: Convenience. Plus if the taxi does get stuck in a solid jam you can always get out and find a train. On the M4? Like I said in a another post , the piccadilly line has almost caused me to miss flights twice at heathrow. I thought we were discussing Heathrow Express? |
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