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AFAICT from previous announcements [and the SL RUS], from the May 23rd
changes these services split/join at Purley to reduce the numbers of paths
used into London Bridge.

However journey planners seem to show a change at Purley for all ex Caterham
services, wouldn't they normally show a service that joins all the way
through to a the final destination in 'public facing' systems and printed
timetables?

I expect that one of the trains will disappear from the 'internal systems'
at Purley, so this seems to be cockup rather than conspiracy...

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On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 11:58:56 +0100, Paul Scott wrote:

AFAICT from previous announcements [and the SL RUS], from the May 23rd
changes these services split/join at Purley to reduce the numbers of paths
used into London Bridge.


How long does it take to do a split or join?

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On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 11:58:56 +0100, Paul Scott wrote:

AFAICT from previous announcements [and the SL RUS], from the May 23rd
changes these services split/join at Purley to reduce the numbers of
paths
used into London Bridge.


How long does it take to do a split or join?


2 or 3 mins, probably diagrammed as 5 for a join. It is certainly within the
interchange time shown in the journey planners anyway...

Paul S


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On 7 Apr, 13:00, Jarle H Knudsen wrote:
On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 11:58:56 +0100, Paul Scott wrote:
AFAICT from previous announcements [and the SL RUS], from the May 23rd
changes these services split/join at Purley to reduce the numbers of paths
used into London Bridge.


How long does it take to do a split or join?

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When I've been in a rear unit that's split at Purley we've been there
for about five minutes while the leading unit is uncoupled and gets
itself out of the way.
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AFAICT from previous announcements [and the SL RUS], from the May 23rd
changes these services split/join at Purley to reduce the numbers of
paths used into London Bridge.

However journey planners seem to show a change at Purley for all ex
Caterham services, wouldn't they normally show a service that joins
all the way through to a the final destination in 'public facing'
systems and printed timetables?

I expect that one of the trains will disappear from the 'internal
systems' at Purley, so this seems to be cockup rather than
conspiracy...


I don't think anything is changing. In the peaks they already split/join
at Purley. Off-peak the trains are separate, however it is quicker for
Caterham passengers to change at Purley onto a fast service rather than
stay on the all stations stopper.

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AFAICT from previous announcements [and the SL RUS], from the May
23rd changes these services split/join at Purley to reduce the
numbers of paths used into London Bridge.

However journey planners seem to show a change at Purley for all ex
Caterham services, wouldn't they normally show a service that joins
all the way through to a the final destination in 'public facing'
systems and printed timetables?

I expect that one of the trains will disappear from the 'internal
systems' at Purley, so this seems to be cockup rather than
conspiracy...


I don't think anything is changing. In the peaks they already
split/join at Purley. Off-peak the trains are separate, however it is
quicker for Caterham passengers to change at Purley onto a fast
service rather than stay on the all stations stopper.


Yes the only issue seems to be that the up peak 'joiners' are being treated
wrongly as separate trains, requiring a change of train at Purley.

Paul S



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On Apr 7, 1:00*pm, Jarle H Knudsen wrote:
On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 11:58:56 +0100, Paul Scott wrote:
AFAICT from previous announcements [and the SL RUS], from the May 23rd
changes these services split/join at Purley to reduce the numbers of paths
used into London Bridge.


How long does it take to do a split or join?

And to change the horses.

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"Paul Scott" wrote in message
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AFAICT from previous announcements [and the SL RUS], from the May 23rd
changes these services split/join at Purley to reduce the numbers of paths
used into London Bridge.

However journey planners seem to show a change at Purley for all ex
Caterham services, wouldn't they normally show a service that joins all
the way through to a the final destination in 'public facing' systems and
printed timetables?

I expect that one of the trains will disappear from the 'internal systems'
at Purley, so this seems to be cockup rather than conspiracy...

Paul S


The main change to the off peak service is that the London Bridge to Sutton
service via Sydenham ceases to run to make way for the East London line. The
Victoria to West Croydon service is extended to Sutton to maintain the
frequency along that section. I don't think the Caterham line is affected.

John


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The main change to the off peak service is that the London Bridge to
Sutton service via Sydenham ceases to run to make way for the East London
line. The Victoria to West Croydon service is extended to Sutton to
maintain the frequency along that section. I don't think the Caterham line
is affected.


Yes, we discussed that a few weeks back, but that wasn't the point of this
thread really. I was just pointing out that the planned _joining_ of
Tattenham Corner and Caterham trains wasn't being shown correctly in the
journey planners, with pax from Caterham being advised of a change onto the
Tatenham Corner train.

Paul S




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