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21-storey skycrapers get go-ahead 13 April, 2010 | By Press Association Two skyscrapers which will tower 106 metres above Finsbury Park station in north London have been approved by the borough council. The complex will also have 335 flats, a restaurant, a cafe, shops and offices and will take five years to complete. Cycle spaces and flexible floor space for leisure activities are also included in the plan for the towers. The site of the two 21-storey buildings will be the largest in Islington since Arsenal’s Emirates Stadium was built. Terry Stacy, the leader of Islington Council, said: ‘Finsbury Park needs regeneration - this scheme will do that. It’s the largest regeneration project in Islington since the Emirates Stadium and it’s long overdue.’ The City North Islington Trading Estate site will be bulldozed to make space for the site. Jack Morris, who chairs the Islington family firm which turned Upper Street’s Royal Agricultural Hall into the Business Design Centre in the 1980s, is behind the project. ‘We’re very proud of this design. It’s a really fine piece of architecture that will create a better and vibrant town centre,’ he claimed. END QUOTE Link to a different article on the same subject: http://tinyurl.com/y98eqot or: http://www.islingtontribune.com/news...given-go-ahead |
21-storey skycrapers get go-aheadat Finsbury Park - Press Association
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Bruce wrote: START QUOTE 21-storey skycrapers get go-ahead 13 April, 2010 | By Press Association Two skyscrapers which will tower 106 metres above Finsbury Park station in north London have been approved by the borough council. More rooftop real estate for pirate radio station transmitters in other words. B2003 |
21-storey skycrapers get go-aheadat Finsbury Park - PressAssociation
On Apr 13, 3:42*pm, wrote: On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 14:40:42 +0100 Bruce wrote: START QUOTE 21-storey skycrapers get go-ahead 13 April, 2010 | By Press Association Two skyscrapers which will tower 106 metres above Finsbury Park station in north London have been approved by the borough council. More rooftop real estate for pirate radio station transmitters in other words. Yes Boltar. |
21-storey skycrapers get go-aheadat Finsbury Park - Press Association
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Tue, 13 Apr 2010, Bruce remarked: flexible floor space for leisure activities Is that like the sprung flooring they have in dance studios? -- Roland Perry |
21-storey skycrapers get go-aheadat Finsbury Park - Press Association
Bruce wrote:
Two skyscrapers which will tower 106 metres above Finsbury Park station in north London have been approved by the borough council. ...... The City North Islington Trading Estate site will be bulldozed to make space for the site. So this is all to the east of the station, looking at the road names in the news article. Is that the side TfL wanted to expand the station concourse into before it was deferred? Paul S |
21-storey skycrapers get go-aheadat Finsbury Park - Press
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 07:47:06 -0700 (PDT)
Mizter T wrote: Two skyscrapers which will tower 106 metres above Finsbury Park station in north London have been approved by the borough council. More rooftop real estate for pirate radio station transmitters in other w= ords. Yes Boltar. Don't live in north london do you. B2003 |
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On Apr 13, 4:29*pm, wrote: On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 07:47:06 -0700 (PDT) Mizter T wrote: Two skyscrapers which will tower 106 metres above Finsbury Park station in north London have been approved by the borough council. More rooftop real estate for pirate radio station transmitters in other words. Yes Boltar. Don't live in north london do you. Nah, I live in south London where good old fashioned static noise (as opposed to interference) on the FM dial is rarer than a ticket inspection on Southern or Southeastern's 'metro' trains. These towers may be many things, but I think it's unlikely they're going to be at the top of the pirates hit list - they're the new type of towers, with a mix of ownership, social housing and offices, with concierges at the entrances etc - not the badlands of old. |
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On Apr 13, 4:25*pm, "Paul Scott" wrote: Bruce wrote: Two skyscrapers which will tower 106 metres above Finsbury Park station in north London have been approved by the borough council. ..... The City North Islington Trading Estate site will be bulldozed to make space for the site. So this is all to the east of the station, looking at the road names in the news article. Is that the side TfL wanted to expand the station concourse into before it was deferred? Er, west ITYM. |
21-storey skycrapers get go-aheadat Finsbury Park - Press
On Apr 13, 9:17*am, Mizter T wrote:
On Apr 13, 4:29*pm, wrote: On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 07:47:06 -0700 (PDT) Mizter T wrote: Two skyscrapers which will tower 106 metres above Finsbury Park station in north London have been approved by the borough council. More rooftop real estate for pirate radio station transmitters in other words. Yes Boltar. Don't live in north london do you. Nah, I live in south London where good old fashioned static noise (as opposed to interference) ... Technically, it is "white noise", I believe. on the FM dial is rarer than a ticket inspection on Southern or Southeastern's 'metro' trains. These towers may be many things, but I think it's unlikely they're going to be at the top of the pirates hit list - they're the new type of towers, with a mix of ownership, social housing and offices, with concierges at the entrances etc - not the badlands of old. Despite their poor reputation in the United Kingdom, I believe there is a market for the right type of "high rise” condominium homes. They are clearly not for families with children. But, given a doorman, and added security, they are ideal for students, professional couples, and some retired folks, etc. The concept is reasonably popular in these United States. |
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Mizter T wrote: they're the new type of towers, with a mix of ownership, social housing and offices, with concierges at the entrances etc - not the badlands of old. for the first couple of years at least ... |
21-storey skycrapers get go-aheadat Finsbury Park - Press Association
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 14:40:42 on Tue, 13 Apr 2010, Bruce remarked: flexible floor space for leisure activities Is that like the sprung flooring they have in dance studios? Diving boards? -- http://gallery120232.fotopic.net/p11938597.html (40 063 at Bescot, 7 Jun 1985) |
21-storey skycrapers get go-aheadat Finsbury Park - Press
Tim Fenton wrote:
wrote in message ... Two skyscrapers which will tower 106 metres above Finsbury Park station in north London have been approved by the borough council. More rooftop real estate for pirate radio station transmitters in other w= ords. Yes Boltar. Don't live in north london do you. If you are asking a question, it is usual to indicate this by the use of a question mark. Indeed, not to mention big letters for the important words. -- http://gallery120232.fotopic.net/p13857150.html (43 030 at Exeter St Davids, 1985) |
21-storey skycrapers get go-aheadat Finsbury Park - Press
On Apr 13, 6:06*pm, E27002 wrote: On Apr 13, 9:17*am, Mizter T wrote: On Apr 13, 4:29*pm, wrote: On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 07:47:06 -0700 (PDT) Mizter T wrote: Two skyscrapers which will tower 106 metres above Finsbury Park station in north London have been approved by the borough council.. More rooftop real estate for pirate radio station transmitters in other words. Yes Boltar. Don't live in north london do you. Nah, I live in south London where good old fashioned static noise (as opposed to interference) ... Technically, it is "white noise", I believe. Indeed, thanks, for whatever daft reason that simple term escaped me at the time. on the FM dial is rarer than a ticket inspection on Southern or Southeastern's 'metro' trains. These towers may be many things, but I think it's unlikely they're going to be at the top of the pirates hit list - they're the new type of towers, with a mix of ownership, social housing and offices, with concierges at the entrances etc - not the badlands of old. Despite their poor reputation in the United Kingdom, I believe there is a market for the right type of "high rise” condominium homes. They are clearly not for families with children. *But, given a doorman, and added security, they are ideal for students, professional couples, and some retired folks, etc. *The concept is reasonably popular in these United States. Indeed, they exist here already - this Finsbury Park development is just such an example. |
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21-storey skycrapers get go-aheadat Finsbury Park - PressAssociation
On Apr 13, 10:29*am, tony sayer wrote:
In article , scribeth thus On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 14:40:42 +0100 Bruce wrote: START QUOTE 21-storey skycrapers get go-ahead 13 April, 2010 | By Press Association Two skyscrapers which will tower 106 metres above Finsbury Park station in north London have been approved by the borough council. More rooftop real estate for pirate radio station transmitters in other words. B2003 Perhaps they'll install the cables in advance so it all looks neat;)... If the United Kingdom really liberalized her broadcasting Laws, it might not be an issue. In the mid 1980s I lived, and worked, in Louisville, Kentucky. Downtown in front of the Public Library was (is?) a green. On that green stood a large FM radio tower. Inside the Library were (are?) the studios of WFPL (Jazz and News), and WFPK (Classical). Right next door to the Public Library was a High Rise block of Condominiums. On top of the Condo tower at the same height, roughly as the WFPL/WFPK antenna, was another FM Antenna. One of the Condominiums was leased to, and was the studios of, hard rock station WLRS. At that time Louisville had 25 FM radio stations. London had three, BBC London, LBC, and Capital, plus the National R1/2, R3 and R4. IMHO it is time to end the pretence of impartiality and allow a free market of ideas on the UK broadcast spectrum. This might be a good election platform for Mr. Cameron. He might in enjoy considerable support from Mr. Murdoch. Imagine all those London Towers with legitimate FM transmitters atop! |
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On Apr 13, 5:19*pm, "Tim Fenton" wrote:
If you are asking a question, it is usual to indicate this by the use of a question mark. That depends on the language. -- Nick |
21-storey skycrapers get go-aheadat Finsbury Park - Press
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, at 11:05:08 on Tue, 13 Apr 2010, D7666 remarked: If you are asking a question, it is usual to indicate this by the use of a question mark. That depends on the language. It depends on the language? -- Roland Perry |
21-storey skycrapers get go-aheadat Finsbury Park - Press
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 11:05:08 on Tue, 13 Apr 2010, D7666 remarked: If you are asking a question, it is usual to indicate this by the use of a question mark. That depends on the language. It depends on the language? It depends on terminology, too. In Greek, questions end with ";" I leave it as an exercise to the reader to discern whether or not that is a question mark. -- http://gallery120232.fotopic.net/p15036428.html (66 241 at Winwick, 10 May 2005) |
21-storey skycrapers get go-aheadat Finsbury Park - Press
On Apr 13, 7:22*pm, Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 11:05:08 on Tue, 13 Apr 2010, D7666 remarked: If you are asking a question, it is usual to indicate this by the use of a question mark. That depends on the language. It depends on the language? This whole thread is in danger of becoming very absurd! |
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On Apr 13, 1:14*pm, Mizter T wrote:
On Apr 13, 7:22*pm, Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 11:05:08 on Tue, 13 Apr 2010, D7666 remarked: If you are asking a question, it is usual to indicate this by the use of a question mark. That depends on the language. It depends on the language? This whole thread is in danger of becoming very absurd! uk.railway: Eclectica, pedantry, thread drift, :-) |
21-storey skycrapers get go-aheadat Finsbury Park - Press
On Apr 13, 9:25*pm, E27002 wrote: On Apr 13, 1:14*pm, Mizter T wrote: On Apr 13, 7:22*pm, Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 11:05:08 on Tue, 13 Apr 2010, D7666 remarked: If you are asking a question, it is usual to indicate this by the use of a question mark. That depends on the language. It depends on the language? This whole thread is in danger of becoming very absurd! uk.railway: Eclectica, pedantry, thread drift, :-) Don't try and claim innocence when you're part of it! ;) |
21-storey skycrapers get go-aheadat Finsbury Park - Press
In message
, at 13:14:59 on Tue, 13 Apr 2010, Mizter T remarked: If you are asking a question, it is usual to indicate this by the use of a question mark. That depends on the language. It depends on the language? This whole thread is in danger of becoming very absurd! This whole thread is in danger of becoming very absurd? -- Roland Perry |
21-storey skycrapers get go-aheadat Finsbury Park - Press Association
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com, E27002 scribeth thus On Apr 13, 10:29*am, tony sayer wrote: In article , scribeth thus On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 14:40:42 +0100 Bruce wrote: START QUOTE 21-storey skycrapers get go-ahead 13 April, 2010 | By Press Association Two skyscrapers which will tower 106 metres above Finsbury Park station in north London have been approved by the borough council. More rooftop real estate for pirate radio station transmitters in other words. B2003 Perhaps they'll install the cables in advance so it all looks neat;)... If the United Kingdom really liberalized her broadcasting Laws, it might not be an issue. In the mid 1980s I lived, and worked, in Louisville, Kentucky. Downtown in front of the Public Library was (is?) a green. On that green stood a large FM radio tower. Inside the Library were (are?) the studios of WFPL (Jazz and News), and WFPK (Classical). Right next door to the Public Library was a High Rise block of Condominiums. On top of the Condo tower at the same height, roughly as the WFPL/WFPK antenna, was another FM Antenna. One of the Condominiums was leased to, and was the studios of, hard rock station WLRS. At that time Louisville had 25 FM radio stations. London had three, BBC London, LBC, and Capital, plus the National R1/2, R3 and R4. IMHO it is time to end the pretence of impartiality and allow a free market of ideas on the UK broadcast spectrum. This might be a good election platform for Mr. Cameron. He might in enjoy considerable support from Mr. Murdoch. Imagine all those London Towers with legitimate FM transmitters atop! You have a valid point in some ways but over there 't other side of the pond urban areas and for that matter suburban are far more widely spaced than the UK which of course has mainland Europe and the ROI to contend with so its not that easy fitting them all in keeping to the agreed field strengths and frequency clearance and spacing etc.. but then again the Digital radio field is up for new innovative programming but seems to be duplicating what's already available on FM...... -- Tony Sayer |
21-storey skycrapers get go-aheadat Finsbury Park - PressAssociation
On Apr 13, 1:53*pm, tony sayer wrote:
In article . com, E27002 scribeth thus On Apr 13, 10:29*am, tony sayer wrote: In article , scribeth thus On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 14:40:42 +0100 Bruce wrote: START QUOTE 21-storey skycrapers get go-ahead 13 April, 2010 | By Press Association Two skyscrapers which will tower 106 metres above Finsbury Park station in north London have been approved by the borough council. More rooftop real estate for pirate radio station transmitters in other words. B2003 Perhaps they'll install the cables in advance so it all looks neat;).... If the United Kingdom really liberalized her broadcasting Laws, it might not be an issue. *In the mid 1980s I lived, and worked, in Louisville, Kentucky. *Downtown in front of the Public Library was (is?) a green. *On that green stood a large FM radio tower. *Inside the Library were (are?) the studios of WFPL (Jazz and News), and WFPK (Classical). Right next door to the Public Library was a High Rise block of Condominiums. *On top of the Condo tower at the same height, roughly as the WFPL/WFPK antenna, was another FM Antenna. *One of the Condominiums was leased to, and was the studios of, hard rock station WLRS. At that time Louisville had 25 FM radio stations. *London had three, BBC London, LBC, and Capital, plus the National R1/2, R3 and R4. IMHO it is time to end the pretence of impartiality and allow a free market of ideas on the UK broadcast spectrum. *This might be a good election platform for Mr. Cameron. *He might in enjoy considerable support from Mr. Murdoch. Imagine all those London Towers with legitimate FM transmitters atop! You have a valid point in some ways but over there 't other side of the pond urban areas and for that matter suburban are far more widely spaced than the UK which of course has mainland Europe and the ROI to contend with so its not that easy fitting them all in keeping to the agreed field strengths and frequency clearance and spacing etc.. *but then again the Digital radio field is up for new innovative programming but seems to be duplicating what's already available on FM...... -- Tony Sayer Sadly, these US are not adopting the DAB standard. There are some digital over FM and Medium Wave broadcasts. There are also digital Satellite services that are subscriber only. Thus far I have stuck with analogue FM. It came as a surprise to me to find out that DAB only duplicates what is available on FM. This appears to be a missed opportunity. |
21-storey skycrapers get go-aheadat Finsbury Park - Press Association
Imagine all those London Towers with legitimate FM transmitters atop!
You have a valid point in some ways but over there 't other side of the pond urban areas and for that matter suburban are far more widely spaced than the UK which of course has mainland Europe and the ROI to contend with so its not that easy fitting them all in keeping to the agreed field strengths and frequency clearance and spacing etc.. *but then again the Digital radio field is up for new innovative programming but seems to be duplicating what's already available on FM...... -- Tony Sayer Sadly, these US are not adopting the DAB standard. Aren't you lucky this system is already antique and is based on a **** poor codec MP2 for broadcast purposes the AAC based DAB + system is far better like other countries are adopting!.. Mind you the iBiquity (US) system leaves something to be desired but thats another argument;!.. There are some digital over FM and Medium Wave broadcasts. There are also digital Satellite services that are subscriber only. Thus far I have stuck with analogue FM. It came as a surprise to me to find out that DAB only duplicates what is available on FM. This appears to be a missed opportunity. Well another story perhaps;!.. -- Tony Sayer |
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On Apr 13, 1:33*pm, Mizter T wrote:
On Apr 13, 9:25*pm, E27002 wrote: On Apr 13, 1:14*pm, Mizter T wrote: On Apr 13, 7:22*pm, Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 11:05:08 on Tue, 13 Apr 2010, D7666 remarked: If you are asking a question, it is usual to indicate this by the use of a question mark. That depends on the language. It depends on the language? This whole thread is in danger of becoming very absurd! uk.railway: Eclectica, pedantry, thread drift, :-) Don't try and claim innocence when you're part of it! ;) :-) How could you? |
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On Apr 13, 3:08*pm, tony sayer wrote:
Sadly, these US are not adopting the DAB standard. * Aren't you lucky this system is already antique and is based on a **** poor codec MP2 for broadcast purposes the AAC based DAB + system is far better like other countries are adopting!.. How easy is it to convert MP2 to AAC? Would users need to replace their receivers? Mind you the iBiquity (US) system leaves something to be desired but thats another argument;!.. There are some digital over FM and Medium Wave broadcasts. *There are also digital Satellite services that are subscriber only. *Thus far I have stuck with analogue FM. There has to be some good way of using digital technology for Radio. Digital allows much better use of the spectrum. It can't be rocket science to implement a good system. We have done it for TV. |
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Mizter T wrote:
On Apr 13, 4:25 pm, "Paul Scott" wrote: Bruce wrote: Two skyscrapers which will tower 106 metres above Finsbury Park station in north London have been approved by the borough council. ..... The City North Islington Trading Estate site will be bulldozed to make space for the site. So this is all to the east of the station, looking at the road names in the news article. Is that the side TfL wanted to expand the station concourse into before it was deferred? Er, west ITYM. Er yes - just how does that happen? Paul S |
21-storey skycrapers get go-aheadat Finsbury Park - Press
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 17:19:26 +0100
"Tim Fenton" wrote: wrote in message ... Two skyscrapers which will tower 106 metres above Finsbury Park station in north London have been approved by the borough council. More rooftop real estate for pirate radio station transmitters in other w= ords. Yes Boltar. Don't live in north london do you. If you are asking a question, it is usual to indicate this by the use of a question mark. Indeed. Except if you had any braincells to rub together you'd have realised the above was a statement. B2003 |
21-storey skycrapers get go-aheadat Finsbury Park - Press
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 10:53:46 -0700 (PDT)
E27002 wrote: IMHO it is time to end the pretence of impartiality and allow a free market of ideas on the UK broadcast spectrum. This might be a good election platform for Mr. Cameron. He might in enjoy considerable support from Mr. Murdoch. Unfortunately it seems that most london pirates are in it for the ego trip and/or a lot are in some way related to organised crime (allegedly). They all transmit the same sort of urban **** which is already available on a number of other legit stations already such as Choice FM, KISS, 1Xtra etc. Imagine all those London Towers with legitimate FM transmitters atop! Imagine all the interference to TV and radio sets for the people living underneath them. B2003 |
21-storey skycrapers get go-aheadat Finsbury Park - Press
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 16:57:20 -0700 (PDT)
E27002 wrote: On Apr 13, 3:08=A0pm, tony sayer wrote: Sadly, these US are not adopting the DAB standard. =A0 Aren't you lucky this system is already antique and is based on a **** poor codec MP2 for broadcast purposes the AAC based DAB + system is far better like other countries are adopting!.. How easy is it to convert MP2 to AAC? Would users need to replace their receivers? Most DAB receivers can't decode AAC so they won't play DAB+ transmissions. There has to be some good way of using digital technology for Radio. Digital allows much better use of the spectrum. It can't be rocket science to implement a good system. We have done it for TV. No we haven't, vested interests came along and ruined it. Freeview has been buggered up by putting on so many channels that half of them look like a live report from Legoland as soon as anyone moves because of the mpeg blocking artifacts. Even the main BBC channels can't cope with highly mobile scenes such as running water or sea surf without noticable blocks appearing in the picture. Compared to a decent PAL transmission it looks utter ****. B2003 |
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On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 09:59:23 +0100
"Tim Fenton" wrote: wrote in message ... Yes Boltar. Don't live in north london do you. If you are asking a question, it is usual to indicate this by the use of a question mark. Indeed. Except if you had any braincells to rub together you'd have realised the above was a statement. Missing comma after "together". Must try harder. None required. Is English your second language? B2003 |
21-storey skycrapers get go-aheadat Finsbury Park - Press Association
In article
s.com, E27002 scribeth thus On Apr 13, 3:08*pm, tony sayer wrote: Sadly, these US are not adopting the DAB standard. * Aren't you lucky this system is already antique and is based on a **** poor codec MP2 for broadcast purposes the AAC based DAB + system is far better like other countries are adopting!.. How easy is it to convert MP2 to AAC? Would users need to replace their receivers? If their only capable of receiving standard DAB then no, but new chipset's are around which can handle both formats.. Fraid the whole thing hasn't really been thought through unlike other past broadcast decisions;(... Mind you the iBiquity (US) system leaves something to be desired but thats another argument;!.. There are some digital over FM and Medium Wave broadcasts. *There are also digital Satellite services that are subscriber only. *Thus far I have stuck with analogue FM. There has to be some good way of using digital technology for Radio. Digital allows much better use of the spectrum. It can't be rocket science to implement a good system. We have done it for TV. Its not really that efficient overall. Especially with the MP2 codec.. -- Tony Sayer |
21-storey skycrapers get go-aheadat Finsbury Park - Press
On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 14:01:05 +0100
"Tim Fenton" wrote: Indeed. Except if you had any braincells to rub together you'd have realised the above was a statement. Missing comma after "together". Must try harder. None required. Wrong. FFS get a life you sad *******. And while you're at it learn English grammar. B2003 |
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On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 16:32:27 +0100
"Tim Fenton" wrote: And while you're at it learn English grammar. Missing comma after "it". g *guffaw* Mind you , having had a look at your blog this is probably your best material. B2003 |
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On Apr 14, 8:50*am, wrote:
On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 16:32:27 +0100 "Tim Fenton" wrote: And while you're at it learn English grammar. Missing comma after "it". g *guffaw* Mind you , having had a look at your blog this is probably your best material. B2003 Timmy’s blog is pretty dire isn't it? It consists mainly of regurgitated labour party propaganda. Any original thinking died of loneliness way back. Go easy on the boy's English Grammar. He is probably swotting for his "O" Level. Like all kids he likes to show off what he has learned. |
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On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 09:07:21 -0700 (PDT)
E27002 wrote: regurgitated labour party propaganda. Any original thinking died of loneliness way back. Heh , I like that phrase , I'll have to remember it :) Go easy on the boy's English Grammar. He is probably swotting for his "O" Level. Like all kids he likes to show off what he has learned. No wonder his posts are so short. B2003 |
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On Apr 14, 1:37*am, wrote:
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 16:57:20 -0700 (PDT) E27002 wrote: On Apr 13, 3:08=A0pm, tony sayer wrote: Sadly, these US are not adopting the DAB standard. =A0 Aren't you lucky this system is already antique and is based on a **** poor codec MP2 for broadcast purposes the AAC based DAB + system is far better like other countries are adopting!.. How easy is it to convert MP2 to AAC? *Would users need to replace their receivers? Most DAB receivers can't decode AAC so they won't play DAB+ transmissions.. There has to be some good way of using digital technology for Radio. Digital allows much better use of the spectrum. *It can't be rocket science to implement a good system. *We have done it for TV. No we haven't, vested interests came along and ruined it. Freeview has been buggered up by putting on so many channels that half of them look like a live report from Legoland as soon as anyone moves because of the mpeg blocking artifacts. Even the main BBC channels can't cope with highly mobile scenes such as running water or sea surf without noticable blocks appearing in the picture. Compared to a decent PAL transmission it looks utter ****. B2003 Thanks for sharing. I had no idea. Here in Reno I receive digital TV thru the Cable system. The quality is outstanding. I don't have a need to go for Hi Def. I figuered that, if anything, digital quality in the UK would be better. The old analogue signal was certainly better in the UK. |
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On Apr 14, 1:33*am, wrote:
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 10:53:46 -0700 (PDT) E27002 wrote: IMHO it is time to end the pretence of impartiality and allow a free market of ideas on the UK broadcast spectrum. *This might be a good election platform for Mr. Cameron. *He might in enjoy considerable support from Mr. Murdoch. Unfortunately it seems that most london pirates are in it for the ego trip and/or a lot are in some way related to organised crime (allegedly). They all transmit the same sort of urban **** which is already available on a number of other legit stations already such as Choice FM, KISS, 1Xtra etc.. So we are talking Hip-hop. Each to their own I suppose. But, how many outlets does a city need for a "music" form where every "song" sounds the same? Imagine all those London Towers with legitimate FM transmitters atop! Imagine all the interference to TV and radio sets for the people living underneath them. Well there shouldn't be interference if the job is done properly. I guess that would be asking a lot. |
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On Apr 14, 2:23*am, tony sayer wrote:
In article s.com, E27002 scribeth thus On Apr 13, 3:08*pm, tony sayer wrote: Sadly, these US are not adopting the DAB standard. * Aren't you lucky this system is already antique and is based on a **** poor codec MP2 for broadcast purposes the AAC based DAB + system is far better like other countries are adopting!.. How easy is it to convert MP2 to AAC? *Would users need to replace their receivers? If their only capable of receiving standard DAB then no, but new chipset's are around which can handle both formats.. Fraid the whole thing hasn't really been thought through unlike other past broadcast decisions;(... Mind you the iBiquity (US) system leaves something to be desired but thats another argument;!.. There are some digital over FM and Medium Wave broadcasts. *There are also digital Satellite services that are subscriber only. *Thus far I have stuck with analogue FM. There has to be some good way of using digital technology for Radio. Digital allows much better use of the spectrum. *It can't be rocket science to implement a good system. *We have done it for TV. Its not really that efficient overall. Especially with the MP2 codec. Then my instinct to stay with FM, and Internet Radio, for the time being was the correct one. There is no digital system here in these US that strikes me as a "must have" technology. Isn't thread drift great? :-) |
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