"Graham Harrison" wrote in message
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If trains on the national network need yellow front panels why doesn't the
same apply to LUL?

It has been suggested previously it is because LU do not normally allow
maintenance staff access to the live railway.

You may have noticed LU's battery maintenance locos do have yellow panels...

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Paul S

On Apr 19, 11:50*pm, "Paul Scott"
wrote:

It has been suggested previously it is because LU do not normally allow
maintenance staff access to the live railway.

Though I imagine red is almost as visible. Several European railways
including SBB, OeBB and DB use it.

Neil

"Paul Scott" wrote in message

"Graham Harrison" wrote in
message ...
If trains on the national network need yellow front panels why
doesn't the same apply to LUL?

It has been suggested previously it is because LU do not normally
allow maintenance staff access to the live railway.

You may have noticed LU's battery maintenance locos do have yellow
panels...

Talking of which, I came across this YouTube video of an unusual rail
tour, with LU battery locos topping and tailing Mk2 Gatwick Express
stock: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpibombER74

On Apr 19, 10:50*pm, "Paul Scott"
wrote:

If trains on the national network need yellow front panels why doesn't the
same apply to LUL?

It has been suggested previously it is because LU do not normally allow
maintenance staff access to the live railway.

LU does allow access but only for emergency faults. No routine
maintenance on track is done in Traffic Hours.


You may have noticed LU's battery maintenance locos do have yellow panels....


Chickens and eggs? The choice of yellow may have been influenced by
the need to operate over NR tracks, and not just the obvious tube
routes, but occasionally, in the past, on other jobs.

--
Nick

On 20 Apr., 11:12, D7666 wrote:


You may have noticed LU's battery maintenance locos do have yellow panels...

Chickens and eggs? The choice of yellow may have been influenced by
the need to operate over NR tracks, and not just the obvious tube
routes, but occasionally, in the past, on other jobs.


LU service trains have traditionally been yellow, not just on the
front ends but all over. See for example the tunnel cleaning train.

On 20 Apr, 09:41, Pat Ricroft wrote:
On 19 Apr, 22:50, "Paul Scott" wrote:

"Graham Harrison" wrote in message

...

If trains on the national network need yellow front panels why doesn't the
same apply to LUL?

It has been suggested previously it is because LU do not normally allow
maintenance staff access to the live railway.

You may have noticed LU's battery maintenance locos do have yellow panels...

So why don't the Bakerloo Line trains have yellow panels for working
over Network Rail lines to Harrow and Wealdstone?

IIRC, the tracks are LUL (or whatever), and Network Rail trains run
over them. ISTR a NR/LUL boundary marker on my Baker.

Clarification, anyone?

Andy

On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 03:51:01 -0700 (PDT) someone who may be Andy
Elms wrote this:-

So why don't the Bakerloo Line trains have yellow panels for working
over Network Rail lines to Harrow and Wealdstone?

IIRC, the tracks are LUL (or whatever), and Network Rail trains run
over them. ISTR a NR/LUL boundary marker on my Baker.

Unless it was one of the changes made around the time of
privatisation, no. However, it may have been one of the changes at
privatisation.



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"Andy Elms" wrote in message
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On 20 Apr, 09:41, Pat Ricroft wrote:

So why don't the Bakerloo Line trains have yellow panels for working
over Network Rail lines to Harrow and Wealdstone?

IIRC, the tracks are LUL (or whatever), and Network Rail trains run
over them. ISTR a NR/LUL boundary marker on my Baker.

The current Quail map shows the LU/NR boundary at the west end of the Queens
Park sheds - basically where the Bakerloo trains join the London Overground
route. I don't think there have been any recent changes at all.

Paul S

"David Hansen" wrote in message
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On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 03:51:01 -0700 (PDT) someone who may be Andy
Elms wrote this:-

So why don't the Bakerloo Line trains have yellow panels for working
over Network Rail lines to Harrow and Wealdstone?

IIRC, the tracks are LUL (or whatever), and Network Rail trains run
over them. ISTR a NR/LUL boundary marker on my Baker.

Unless it was one of the changes made around the time of
privatisation, no. However, it may have been one of the changes at
privatisation.

AIUI, of the jointly used lines, Queens Park to Harrow & Wealdstone, East
Putney to Wimbledon, and Gunnersbury to Richmond are Network Rail lines,
while Harrow South Junction to Amersham is LUL,

Peter

Neil Williams wrote:
On Apr 19, 11:50 pm, "Paul Scott"
wrote:

It has been suggested previously it is because LU do not normally allow
maintenance staff access to the live railway.

Though I imagine red is almost as visible. Several European railways
including SBB, OeBB and DB use it.

I think the problem with red in the UK would be that red/orange is the
colour of staff vis vests, and at a distance a fast approaching train
might be mistaken for a person in the distance wearing a vis vest.

Rgds

Denis McMahon