On 04/05/2010 10:12, d wrote:
On the radio yet again this morning - an accident at Clacket Lane services.
Is there something particularly bad about the way the exits roads to this
service station have been designed? I've driven that part of the M25 more times
than is probably good for me but I haven't noticed anything unusual that
would give rise to so many accidents but clearly something is confusing some
motorists. Does anyone have any ideas?

My first thought is that "Clackett Lane Services" is media slang for
"the stretch between J5 and J6", and that these are the two junctions
which are furthest apart, so if the number of accidents per mile is
constant, you would expect to hear "Clackett Lane Services" a lot.

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On the radio yet again this morning - an accident at Clacket Lane
services.
Is there something particularly bad about the way the exits roads to this
service station have been designed? I've driven that part of the M25 more
times
than is probably good for me but I haven't noticed anything unusual that
would give rise to so many accidents but clearly something is confusing
some
motorists. Does anyone have any ideas?

B2003

Is it just because you know the name well, that whenever anything happens,
it stands out? "Accident near/between Junction X/Y" isn't so memorable. Are
there any stats available to us South London morons which would support your
supposition. I believe that area is subject to more fog than some so that
may be a factor (although presumably not in this case). The other
alternative is that people are so keen to get away from Clackets Lane, they
don't look where they are going!

MaxB

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On the radio yet again this morning - an accident at Clacket Lane
services.
Is there something particularly bad about the way the exits roads to this
service station have been designed? I've driven that part of the M25 more
times
than is probably good for me but I haven't noticed anything unusual that
would give rise to so many accidents but clearly something is confusing
some
motorists. Does anyone have any ideas?

B2003


I have seen several caused by/around the services themselves (well the
location and id10t drivers.). there are the ones on the slip road out
(which is (generally) pretty short).. and so many drivers expect a gap to
be created for them.. on the entry way caused by, of course, the last
minute 3rd lane tw@s who drive across the lanes barely making the slip
road..

but its also a very crowded but very fast (until an accident is there) part
of the M25..

it is also one of the most poorly maintained bits of motorway (IMHO) with
potholes and truck ruts and in rain I've never known a bit of MWay so bad
for spray.. (seems to be worse than most but no idea why).

but generally its because of drivers being tw@s..

The cause is, at a minimum, reckless and inconsiderate driving by HGV
drivers (trying to get more out of the road than it can give in terms of
speed and capacity).

HGV's are limited to 56 mph mate

phil

phil wrote:
The cause is, at a minimum, reckless and inconsiderate driving by HGV
drivers (trying to get more out of the road than it can give in terms of
speed and capacity).

HGV's are limited to 56 mph mate

and?

How else do to two lorries crash into each other on a deserted motorway at 3 am?

On 04/05/2010 10:12, d wrote:
On the radio yet again this morning - an accident at Clacket Lane services.
Is there something particularly bad about the way the exits roads to this
service station have been designed? I've driven that part of the M25 more times
than is probably good for me but I haven't noticed anything unusual that
would give rise to so many accidents but clearly something is confusing some
motorists. Does anyone have any ideas?


This will be a question for ChelseaTractorMan to answer.

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MrBitsy

On Tue, 4 May 2010, d wrote:

On the radio yet again this morning - an accident at Clacket Lane
services. Is there something particularly bad about the way the exits
roads to this service station have been designed?

Probably run by London Underground, right?

tom

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Woz

On 04/05/2010 10:54, Ian Jackson wrote:
In 50 years of driving, I've never seen one happen there. [In fact,
I've hardly ever seen a 'live' accident

Interesting. Drivers rarely see a live accident, yet they happen daily
on the same stretches of road causing havoc for all. You would think
drivers would use a little logic here, rather than the standard
'continue as I always do as it's the other idiots'.
--
MrBitsy

On 05/05/2010 00:39, JNugent wrote:
phil wrote:
The cause is, at a minimum, reckless and inconsiderate driving by HGV
drivers (trying to get more out of the road than it can give in terms
of speed and capacity).

HGV's are limited to 56 mph mate

and?

How else do to two lorries crash into each other on a deserted motorway
at 3 am?

They're watching Battlestar Galactica videos?

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phil wrote:
The cause is, at a minimum, reckless and inconsiderate driving by HGV
drivers (trying to get more out of the road than it can give in terms of
speed and capacity).

HGV's are limited to 56 mph mate

and?

How else do to two lorries crash into each other on a deserted motorway at
3 am?

With great skill and dedication. Not everyone can manage it.