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Just wondering how the service is being used in the morning peak at the
moment, as I haven't been in London before mid day at all since the preview
began, and it's gone a bit quiet on the subject here...

Are there signs of many passengers having gone back to changing onto the ELL
at NX or NXG, as pre conversion, ie when it was an LU line?

Paul S

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On 17 May, 22:59, "Paul Scott" wrote:
Just wondering how the service is being used in the morning peak at the
moment, as I haven't been in London before mid day at all since the preview
began, and it's gone a bit quiet on the subject here...

Are there signs of many passengers having gone back to changing onto the ELL
at NX or NXG, as pre conversion, ie when it was an LU line?

Paul S

Dunno, but the test runs were out in force south of NXG tonight.

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On May 17, 10:59*pm, "Paul Scott"
wrote:
Just wondering how the service is being used in the morning peak at the
moment, as I haven't been in London before mid day at all since the preview
began, and it's gone a bit quiet on the subject here...

Are there signs of many passengers having gone back to changing onto the ELL
at NX or NXG, as pre conversion, ie when it was an LU line?

Paul S

I have not seen it in the AM peak myself but comments from other
groups / blogs suggest that people are changing trains to the ELL at
the New Crosses. While ridership is not yet at high levels people are
using the line with Canada Water (surprise, surprise) being a busy
interchange. When I went to watch it in the PM peak, not long after
the preview service started, there were people changing at NXG to /
from Southern trains and I don't think it was people "just trying it
out".

I've not had any feedback about the first weekend of preview service.

Next week is the big test.

--
Paul C
via Google

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"Paul Scott" wrote in message
...
Just wondering how the service is being used in the morning peak at the
moment, as I haven't been in London before mid day at all since the
preview began, and it's gone a bit quiet on the subject here...

Are there signs of many passengers having gone back to changing onto the
ELL at NX or NXG, as pre conversion, ie when it was an LU line?

Paul S


Just looking at the full service from later this month
http://www.networkrail.co.uk/browse%...s/Table178.pdf
and it appears that, in the down direction (?) Peckham Rye and Queens Road
Peckham have swapped places. The timings, where shown, make sense but...

Am I missing something?

MaxB

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On May 18, 5:11*pm, "Batman55" wrote:

"Paul Scott" wrote:

Just wondering how the service is being used in the morning peak at the
moment, as I haven't been in London before mid day at all since the
preview began, and it's gone a bit quiet on the subject here...

Are there signs of many passengers having gone back to changing onto the
ELL at NX or NXG, as pre conversion, ie when it was an LU line?

Just looking at the full service from later this month
http://www.networkrail.co.uk/browse%...s/Table178.pdf
and it appears that, in the down direction (?) Peckham Rye and Queens Road
Peckham have swapped places. The timings, where shown, make sense but...

Am I missing something?

No. Network Rail's timetable department are missing some quality
control though.

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"Batman55" wrote in message
...
"Paul Scott" wrote in message
...
Just wondering how the service is being used in the morning peak at the
moment, as I haven't been in London before mid day at all since the
preview began, and it's gone a bit quiet on the subject here...

Are there signs of many passengers having gone back to changing onto the
ELL at NX or NXG, as pre conversion, ie when it was an LU line?


Just looking at the full service from later this month
http://www.networkrail.co.uk/browse%...s/Table178.pdf
and it appears that, in the down direction (?) Peckham Rye and Queens Road
Peckham have swapped places. The timings, where shown, make sense but...

Am I missing something?


No, thats another error spotted I think.

There have been a few previous posts highlighting that table 178 is borked
(in terms of sorting left to right on departure timings) but I don't think
your findings have been mentioned before...

Paul

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On 18 May, 17:27, "Paul Scott" wrote:
"Batman55" wrote in message

...





"Paul Scott" wrote in message
...
Just wondering how the service is being used in the morning peak at the
moment, as I haven't been in London before mid day at all since the
preview began, and it's gone a bit quiet on the subject here...

Are there signs of many passengers having gone back to changing onto the
ELL at NX or NXG, as pre conversion, ie when it was an LU line?

Just looking at the full service from later this month
http://www.networkrail.co.uk/browse%...y10/timetables...
and it appears that, in the down direction (?) Peckham Rye and Queens Road
Peckham have swapped places. The timings, where shown, make sense but...

Am I missing something?

No, thats another error spotted I think.

There have been a few previous posts highlighting that table 178 is borked
(in terms of sorting left to right on departure timings) but I don't think
your findings have been mentioned before...

Paul- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Is it an error, or an attempt at something fairly impossible?

Peckham Rye is before both Queens Road and Denmark Hill depending on
whether the train is heading for London Bridge or Blackfriars, and
that seems to be what they've tried to show.

I think the mistake may have been more in the attempt than in the
execution.

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On May 18, 5:40*pm, MIG wrote:

On 18 May, 17:27, "Paul Scott" wrote:

"Batman55" wrote:

"Paul Scott" wrote:
Just wondering how the service is being used in the morning peak at the
moment, as I haven't been in London before mid day at all since the
preview began, and it's gone a bit quiet on the subject here...

Are there signs of many passengers having gone back to changing onto the
ELL at NX or NXG, as pre conversion, ie when it was an LU line?

Just looking at the full service from later this month
http://www.networkrail.co.uk/browse%...s/Table178.pdf
and it appears that, in the down direction (?) Peckham Rye and Queens Road
Peckham have swapped places. The timings, where shown, make sense but....

Am I missing something?

No, thats another error spotted I think.

There have been a few previous posts highlighting that table 178 is borked
(in terms of sorting left to right on departure timings) but I don't think
your findings have been mentioned before...

Is it an error, or an attempt at something fairly impossible?

Peckham Rye is before both Queens Road and Denmark Hill depending on
whether the train is heading for London Bridge or Blackfriars, and
that seems to be what they've tried to show.

I think the mistake may have been more in the attempt than in the
execution.

No - take another look. If the column were to read (as it should)...

London Bridge
....
South Bermondsey
Queen's Rd Peckham
Peckham Rye
Denmark Hill
London Blackfriars

....it would make sense - it works because London Bridge and
Blackfriars (and indeed Victoria) are at different ends of the table
(i.e. the top and towards the bottom).

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"MIG" wrote in message
...
On 18 May, 17:27, "Paul Scott" wrote:

There have been a few previous posts highlighting that table 178 is
borked
(in terms of sorting left to right on departure timings) but I don't
think
your findings have been mentioned before...

Is it an error, or an attempt at something fairly impossible?

Peckham Rye is before both Queens Road and Denmark Hill depending on
whether the train is heading for London Bridge or Blackfriars, and
that seems to be what they've tried to show.

Don't think so. Comparing it with both directions in the current table 178
and the fact that the UP section of the new table 178 is correctly ordered,
suggests it is just another basic cockup - accidentally ordered
alphabetically maybe?

Paul S

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On 18 May, 17:53, Mizter T wrote:
On May 18, 5:40*pm, MIG wrote:





On 18 May, 17:27, "Paul Scott" wrote:

"Batman55" wrote:

"Paul Scott" wrote:
Just wondering how the service is being used in the morning peak at the
moment, as I haven't been in London before mid day at all since the
preview began, and it's gone a bit quiet on the subject here...

Are there signs of many passengers having gone back to changing onto the
ELL at NX or NXG, as pre conversion, ie when it was an LU line?

Just looking at the full service from later this month
http://www.networkrail.co.uk/browse%...y10/timetables...
and it appears that, in the down direction (?) Peckham Rye and Queens Road
Peckham have swapped places. The timings, where shown, make sense but...

Am I missing something?

No, thats another error spotted I think.

There have been a few previous posts highlighting that table 178 is borked
(in terms of sorting left to right on departure timings) but I don't think
your findings have been mentioned before...

Is it an error, or an attempt at something fairly impossible?

Peckham Rye is before both Queens Road and Denmark Hill depending on
whether the train is heading for London Bridge or Blackfriars, and
that seems to be what they've tried to show.

I think the mistake may have been more in the attempt than in the
execution.

No - take another look. If the column were to read (as it should)...

Please don't make me look again; it's too painful.


London Bridge
...
South Bermondsey
Queen's Rd Peckham
Peckham Rye
Denmark Hill
London Blackfriars

...it would make sense - it works because London Bridge and
Blackfriars (and indeed Victoria) are at different ends of the table
(i.e. the top and towards the bottom).-

I guess it would be better to do that, but they way they've got it is
in the right order for trains from Crystal Palace, an attempt to
include which may have led to the problem (they also can't be shown
arriving at London Bridge).