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BAA still making plans to resurrect dead runway
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On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 13:48 +0100 (BST), lid (Paul
Cummins) wrote: In article , (Bruce) wrote: *From:* Bruce *Date:* Tue, 08 Jun 2010 13:16:03 +0100 On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 13:02 +0100 (BST), lid (Paul Cummins) wrote: In article , (CJB) wrote: The letter sent to residents to confirm the end of BAA's buy-up, also reveals that BAA is still considering applying for planning permission for a third runway. Why don't they just reinstate the third runway that currently exists? Because its clearances have been infringed by new building. Because it crosses the two east-west runways (09-27L and 09-27R) and using it would mean that those two runways would have to be closed. Next question? OK - why were the clearances on runways 3,4,5 and 6 (yes, Heathrow was designed for 6 runways!) been allowed to be either built on or infringed, without consideration of the future implications. Because those runways would have been too short for modern airliners. The "future implication" was that they were not needed, and they still aren't, and never will be, unless the Laws of Physics are changed. Also, you are being deliberately misleading by suggesting that modern Heathrow could have had six runways, because only a maximum of two parallel runways could ever have been in use at any one time. So whichever way the wind blew, the design allowed for only two runways to operate. And why have successive owners done this, when they must have had a clue of the implications! They did it precisely because they *did* understand the implications, which is clearly not something that you could ever claim. Please don't ask any more stupid questions. However, in the unlikely event that you want to ask an intelligent question, go ahead. |
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.homeip.net, at 16:08:00 on Tue, 8 Jun 2010, Paul Cummins remarked: It would have been far better to have accepted this in the 1960's and 70's and reclaimed enough land in the Thames estuary to build a new London International Airport, as indeed we did in Hong Kong to replace Kai Tak. That sounds curiously like the plan to build Maplin Airport (whose only tangible legacy seems to be an electronics company that latched on to the name in case it became world famous). After much debate they moved the concept to Stansted, which is in effect Heathrow's third runway and doing quite nicely thank you. -- Roland Perry |
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On 08/06/2010 19:16, Roland Perry wrote:
Stansted, which is in effect Heathrow's third runway So what's Gatwick? |
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Basil Jet wrote on 09 June 2010
00:16:41 ... On 08/06/2010 19:16, Roland Perry wrote: Stansted, which is in effect Heathrow's third runway So what's Gatwick? Redhill Aerodrome's 4th runway. -- Richard J. (to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address) |
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In message , at 00:16:41 on
Wed, 9 Jun 2010, Basil Jet remarked: Stansted, which is in effect Heathrow's third runway So what's Gatwick? London's Second airport, which just grew there by accident. Stansted, being the official "Third airport" was the result of extensive public enquiries etc, to satisfy the need for more capacity for London. Just like the third runway at Heathrow is/was at the moment. -- Roland Perry |
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In message , at 14:57:39 on
Tue, 8 Jun 2010, Bruce remarked: Also, you are being deliberately misleading by suggesting that modern Heathrow could have had six runways, because only a maximum of two parallel runways could ever have been in use at any one time. So whichever way the wind blew, the design allowed for only two runways to operate. And the two they are left with are the pair best aligned with the prevailing winds. -- Roland Perry |
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On 8 June, 14:57, Bruce wrote:
Please don't ask any more stupid questions. *However, in the unlikely event that you want to ask an intelligent question, go ahead.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I have a question, or several. Why was Heathrow designed like that, with six runways crossing each other in a sort of Star of David shape? They obviously wouldn't have been able to use all of them at the same time, was it intended that they would use two parallel ones at any one time depending on the direction of the wind? Why were only three of these runways ever built? When, and why did the third runway close? What are the numbers and letters at the ends of runways? The letter always seems to be 'L' or 'R'; the only thing I can think of is left and right, but that would depend on which direction you were facing. Is there any significance to the numbers, or are they just assigned the next free number? EWR seems to have similar numbers to LGW and LHR, so I assume it must be an international thing. Why do airports and ex airports often seem to have been built in clusters fairly close together. Heston, Heathrow and Northolt for example or Waddon and Beddington (originally separated by just a road and later merged to form Croydon), Kenley, Redhill, Biggin Hill and even Gatwick not too far away. Again, the same thing seems to have been the case in and around New York, Floyd Bennett Field was only just across the bay from JFK, and Flushing was right next to LaGuardia. I would have thould that they'd want to keep airports well out of each others way. Indeed, this was one of the reasons given for not re-opening Flushing, along with the fact that the runway's sinking into the swamp. |
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