Are there ever occasions during planned or unplanned service
disruption where an LU train heading say "eastbound" will require to
finish its journey in the "eastbound" platform of a two-platform
station, pick-up intending "westbound" passengers for the next
departure whilst still on the "eastbound" platform then head
"westbound" on the "eastbound" line in order to access a crossover to
the "westbound" line?

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On 13/06/2010 16:00, wrote:
Are there ever occasions during planned or unplanned service
disruption where an LU train heading say "eastbound" will require to
finish its journey in the "eastbound" platform of a two-platform
station, pick-up intending "westbound" passengers for the next
departure whilst still on the "eastbound" platform then head
"westbound" on the "eastbound" line in order to access a crossover to
the "westbound" line?

Yes. It definitely happened at a Central London station in the last 10
years, and all of the signs had to be covered up with temporary ones
specifying the other direction. I can't remember where or when, or even
whether I saw it personally or just saw the pictures in Underground News.

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On the Piccadilly line at least that can happen at Oakwood, Kings Cross,
Hyde Park Corner, Hammersmith, Northfields, Hounslow Central, Hatton
Cross, Heathrow T123, South Harrow and Rayners Lane.

Are there ever occasions during planned or unplanned service
disruption where an LU train heading say "eastbound" will require to
finish its journey in the "eastbound" platform of a two-platform
station, pick-up intending "westbound" passengers for the next
departure whilst still on the "eastbound" platform then head
"westbound" on the "eastbound" line in order to access a crossover to
the "westbound" line?

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On 13/06/2010 16:00, wrote:
Are there ever occasions during planned or unplanned service
disruption where an LU train heading say "eastbound" will require to
finish its journey in the "eastbound" platform of a two-platform
station, pick-up intending "westbound" passengers for the next
departure whilst still on the "eastbound" platform then head
"westbound" on the "eastbound" line in order to access a crossover to
the "westbound" line?

I've "done" such a move at King's Cross St. Pancras (Met) in the past
few years. Westbound trains terminating in the Westbound platform, then
gaining the Eastbound line via a crossover just off the East end of the
platform.

If memory serves, it's also possible to have a "wrong road" move from
the Eastbound platform at Moorgate (Met), though I'm not sure whether
that counts for the purposes of your question, given the two bay platforms.

Cheers,

Barry

On 13 June, 22:09, Barry Salter wrote:
On 13/06/2010 16:00, wrote:

Are there ever occasions during planned or unplanned service
disruption where an LU *train heading say "eastbound" will require to
finish its journey in the "eastbound" platform of a two-platform
station, pick-up intending "westbound" passengers for the next
departure whilst still on the "eastbound" platform then head
"westbound" on the "eastbound" line in order to access a crossover to
the "westbound" line?

I've "done" such a move at King's Cross St. Pancras (Met) in the past
few years. Westbound trains terminating in the Westbound platform, then
gaining the Eastbound line via a crossover just off the East end of the
platform.

If memory serves, it's also possible to have a "wrong road" move from
the Eastbound platform at Moorgate (Met), though I'm not sure whether
that counts for the purposes of your question, given the two bay platforms.

There is a trailing crossover there.

Only Woodford seems to have trailing crossovers at both ends, although
I suppose Lambeth North and maybe Hatton Cross or something that way
have a trailing crossover before the next station in both directions.

In message
, MIG
writes

I've "done" such a move at King's Cross St. Pancras (Met) in the past
few years. Westbound trains terminating in the Westbound platform, then
gaining the Eastbound line via a crossover just off the East end of the
platform.

If memory serves, it's also possible to have a "wrong road" move from
the Eastbound platform at Moorgate (Met), though I'm not sure whether
that counts for the purposes of your question, given the two bay platforms.

There is a trailing crossover there.

Only Woodford seems to have trailing crossovers at both ends, although
I suppose Lambeth North and maybe Hatton Cross or something that way
have a trailing crossover before the next station in both directions.

Hatton Cross only has crossovers off the east end of the platforms but
you can be routed into either platform to reverse back east.
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On 13/06/2010 16:00, wrote:
Are there ever occasions during planned or unplanned service
disruption where an LU train heading say "eastbound" will require to
finish its journey in the "eastbound" platform of a two-platform
station, pick-up intending "westbound" passengers for the next
departure whilst still on the "eastbound" platform then head
"westbound" on the "eastbound" line in order to access a crossover to
the "westbound" line?

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gordon

I've seen it happen a couple of times at Northolt on the Central line,
where a westbound train is reversed without going into the siding. I
don't know why they don't do it more often, as it does speed up the process.

"dB" wrote
wrote:

Are there ever occasions during planned or unplanned service
disruption where an LU train heading say "eastbound" will require to
finish its journey in the "eastbound" platform of a two-platform
station, pick-up intending "westbound" passengers for the next
departure whilst still on the "eastbound" platform then head
"westbound" on the "eastbound" line in order to access a crossover to
the "westbound" line?

I've seen it happen a couple of times at Northolt on the Central line,
where a westbound train is reversed without going into the siding. I don't
know why they don't do it more often, as it does speed up the process.

Interesting. I've never done this move at Northolt (or Oakwood, or
Hornchurch) but I think I've done just about all the others mentioned in
this thread. Anyone interested in traversing rare crossovers - both on LU
and on the national network - needs to read my weekly 'PMO' report on the
Gensheet Yahoo! Group.

Royal Victoria crossover (DLR) was used last weekend, I think for the first
planned time, by DLR trains reversing at Custom House.

"John Salmon" wrote in message
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"dB" wrote
wrote:

Are there ever occasions during planned or unplanned service
disruption where an LU train heading say "eastbound" will require to
finish its journey in the "eastbound" platform of a two-platform
station, pick-up intending "westbound" passengers for the next
departure whilst still on the "eastbound" platform then head
"westbound" on the "eastbound" line in order to access a crossover to
the "westbound" line?

I've seen it happen a couple of times at Northolt on the Central line,
where a westbound train is reversed without going into the siding. I
don't know why they don't do it more often, as it does speed up the
process.

Interesting. I've never done this move at Northolt (or Oakwood, or
Hornchurch) but I think I've done just about all the others mentioned in
this thread. Anyone interested in traversing rare crossovers - both on LU
and on the national network - needs to read my weekly 'PMO' report on the
Gensheet Yahoo! Group.

Royal Victoria crossover (DLR) was used last weekend, I think for the
first planned time, by DLR trains reversing at Custom House.



Don't think it's been used lately, but back in the days when I sat behind a
'andle rather than a desk, we had a night turn that came out of Northfields,
ran down to West Ken then reversed back east to west to run to the airport
and back up to Arnos for relief. As far as I know the facility to do the
West Ken reverse is still there, but I don't think it's on the (Piccadilly)
T/Ops road training any more.
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In message MWQSn.79010$oi7.37339@hurricane, Steve Dulieu
writes

Don't think it's been used lately, but back in the days when I sat
behind a 'andle rather than a desk, we had a night turn that came out
of Northfields, ran down to West Ken then reversed back east to west to
run to the airport and back up to Arnos for relief. As far as I know
the facility to do the West Ken reverse is still there, but I don't
think it's on the (Piccadilly) T/Ops road training any more.

It was 'talked through' 8 years ago at least.
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