On 17 June, 13:18, MIG wrote:
On 17 June, 11:32, Paul wrote:





On 17 June, 11:00, "Ian F." wrote:

"Mizter T" wrote in message

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I suspect Bob Crow's analysis - that this is a bit of kite-flying - is
probably on the money.

How could we ever have driverless trains? There'd be no one to shut the
doors at Kennington just as you're rushing to change trains from the Bank to
Charing Cross platform.

Ian

Or at Finsbury Park when you want to change from the Piccadilly line
to the Victoria line. Mind you I am sure that the line controllers
could achieve the same with judicious use of CCTV cameras.

Bottom line is, you can't very well have staffless (which is what it
really means) trains without platform edge doors, although I am not
entirely certain of their efficacy.

An anorak string with a large bobble, of the kind that got a boy
killed in the Piccadilly a few years ago, might be able to get trapped
between both the train doors and the platform doors without detection,
although a person would presumably just be slammed into the latter
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The metro in Lille is completely automatic, but is monitored by CCTV
at every station. Inside the trains whereby you can press a button and
speak to the line controller. In addition there are mobile patrols of
security staff ("Prevention - Transports") who provide a visible
presence at stations, and keep all the tramps, drunks and
troublemakers out of the way. There are also team of Revenue
Protection Inspectors.

Not sure that such a system would work in London, though. For one
thing, safety regulations after the Kings Cross fire would not permit
unstaffed stations undergound, and having unstaffed stations would be
an open invitation to Al-Qaeda to try a repeat of 7/7.

On 17/06/2010 14:50, Paul wrote:

The metro in Lille is completely automatic, but is monitored by CCTV
at every station.

What stops the monitor monitors from going on strike every time the
World Cup is on?

Basil Jet wrote on 17 June 2010
15:19:27 ...
On 17/06/2010 14:50, Paul wrote:

The metro in Lille is completely automatic, but is monitored by CCTV
at every station.

What stops the monitor monitors from going on strike every time the
World Cup is on?

Every time there's a strike on the Paris Métro (which is quite often),
the driverless Line 14 always runs a normal service. Maybe there are
enough non-union managers to staff the control room on those days.
--
Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)

On Thu, 17 Jun 2010, Basil Jet wrote:

On 17/06/2010 14:50, Paul wrote:

The metro in Lille is completely automatic, but is monitored by CCTV at
every station.

What stops the monitor monitors from going on strike every time the
World Cup is on?

The fact that football isn't terribly popular in India yet. Where a job
is done over a wire, it can be offshored!

tom

--
Oh, well of course *everything* looks bad if you remember it

On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 06:50:19 -0700 (PDT)
Paul wrote:
The metro in Lille is completely automatic, but is monitored by CCTV
at every station. Inside the trains whereby you can press a button and
speak to the line controller. In addition there are mobile patrols of

Also the tunnels are double track and quite large so once the train doors were
open escaping from the train would be a fairly simple process. Not so in
a deep level tube train.

B2003