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LHR to Tilbury Pier
I want to go in july 2011. i have an oyster card with no value bought
in dec 2008 . Can I use this card to get to tilbury ? what would be best route? |
LHR to Tilbury Pier
On Jun 30, 4:45*pm, " wrote: I want to go in july 2011. i have an oyster card with no value bought in dec 2008 . Can I use this card to get to tilbury ? Afraid not. Whilst on c2c (that's the London, Tilbury & Southend route in old money), there is a small extension of the Oyster Pay-as-you-go area beyond zone 6 for which special fares are charged, this is only a *small* extension - it consists of only four stations - Ockendon, Chafford Hundred, Purfleet and Grays, so doesn't take one very much further towards Tilbury at all - certainly not spitting distance! See the "Oyster Rail services in London" map here - in particular the eastern edge of it (PDF): http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...rvices-map.pdf The above being reached via the TfL maps page,) There's also this information page on the c2c website: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Using-Oyster-PAYG-on-c2c Ticketing wise, I s'pose you're best off using Oyster PAYG for your Tube journey into central London (or West Ham - see below), then buying a conventional rail ticket. The other option of buying a Day Travelcard then an extension from the edge of zone 6 to Tilbury would I think only make sense if you were coming back into London later that day. One thing I am rather ignorant of is the purported ability of (at least) some Tube stations to sell tickets to rail destinations beyond London (e.g. in the former Network South East area) - i.e. from Heathrow through to Tilbury. However given the manic queues that seem to pretty much always exist at Heathrow T1,(2,)3 Tube station I'm not sure this is necessarily the best place to try it out! Instead head for the TfL Travel Information centre opposite the entrance to the T1,(2,)3 Tube station, which always seems a far more civilised and less hectic place - I don't think they'd be able to sell any fancy through Tube & rail ticket to Tilbury, but they can certainly top-up your Oyster card (as well as furnishing you with maps and other advice as needed). what would be best route? I'd think Piccadilly line to Barons Court, District line to Tower Hill, walk round the corner (and it literally is just that) and then the c2c rail line from Fenchurch Street to Tilbury. From Tower Hill you are directed around the corner and enter Fenchurch St via the 'back entrance' rather than the more magisterial front entrance. Alternatively Picc to Green Park, Jubilee to West Ham, then pick up the c2c line from there - however I don't think all the Tilbury bound trains necessarily stop at West Ham. Regardless, you'd be well advised to check whether any Tube lines might not be running ahead of your trip - see: http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/livetravel...e/default.html (click on the "This date" link to bring up a pop-up calendar) |
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Is it worth it to save the extra money to use this from Heathrow
Terminals 123 [London Underground] to Upminster saving £1.10? Alternative oyster single fares: Route 1: Avoiding Zone 1 via any of Kensington Olympia, Shepherds Bush or West Brompton Oyster £2.20Monday to Friday from 0630 to 0930 and from 1600 to 1900. £1.30At all other times including public holidays. To ensure you are charged the appropriate fare you must touch on the pink card reader on the Oyster route validator if interchanging at Kensington Olympia or West Brompton Route 2: Avoiding Zone 1 via Gospel Oak Oyster £2.20Monday to Friday from 0630 to 0930 and from 1600 to 1900. £1.30At all other times including public holidays. To ensure you are charged the appropriate fare you must touch on the pink card reader on the Oyster route validator if interchanging at Gospel Oak Route 3: Avoiding Zone 1 via Stratford (London Overground) Oyster £2.20Monday to Friday from 0630 to 0930 and from 1600 to 1900. £1.30At all other times including public holidays. To ensure you are charged the appropriate fare you must touch on the pink card reader on the Oyster route validator if interchanging at Stratford (London Overground platforms) When you pay as you go, you must touch your Oyster card on a yellow reader at the start and end of your journey. If you do not, you will be charged a maximum cash fare. Some journeys have been defined as requiring travel via Zone 1 and will be charged |
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On Jun 30, 7:21 pm, Mizter T wrote: On Jun 30, 4:45 pm, " wrote: I want to go in july 2011. i have an oyster card with no value bought in dec 2008 . Can I use this card to get to tilbury ? Afraid not. [rest of advice snipped] Just seen that you're thinking about a trip in July 2011, a year ahead - that's advanced planning! If you were thinking of staying in Tilbury and then making several trips into London then you might possibly find buying a weekly season ticket suits you - a 7-day season from Tilbury into London is currently GBP45.40, whilst a 7-day Travelcard from Tilbury to London (with inclusive travel in zones 1-6) is GBP67.20. You'd need to work out of that worked out better for you than buying tickets on each day you wanted to travel. An Off-peak Return from Tilbury to London is GBP8.50, whilst an inclusive Off-peak Day Travelcard from Tilbury to zones 1-6 is GBP9.30 - both are only valid from the 09:26 train onwards (i.e. not earlier peak trains) - whilst a season ticket or Travelcard is valid at any time (so you could travel in with the commuters). Not sure what the price of an Anytime Day Travelcard is from Tilbury (i.e. valid in the morning peak), but an Anytime Day Return is GBP9.30. To get a season ticket you'd need a photocard - if you were to want to do this the way I'd recommend approaching it is obtaining the photocard and buying the season ticket/ Travelcard at Fenchurch Street station together (so bring a passport sized photo along!). |
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On Jun 30, 8:06*pm, " wrote: Is it worth it to save the extra money to use this from Heathrow Terminals 123 [London Underground] to Upminster saving £1.10? Alternative oyster single fares: Route 1: Avoiding Zone 1 via any of Kensington Olympia, Shepherds Bush or West Brompton [snip] Route 2: Avoiding Zone 1 via Gospel Oak [snip] Route 3: Avoiding Zone 1 via Stratford (London Overground) [snip] No, I don't think so. Unless you really want an excuse to go via a more labyrinthine route! (Also, note that not all trains to Tilbury stop at Upminster during peak periods.) |
LHR to Tilbury Pier
On Jun 30, 8:21*pm, Mizter T wrote: On Jun 30, 7:21 pm, Mizter T wrote: On Jun 30, 4:45 pm, " wrote: I want to go in july 2011. i have an oyster card with no value bought in dec 2008 . Can I use this card to get to tilbury ? Afraid not. [rest of advice snipped] Just seen that you're thinking about a trip in July 2011, a year ahead - that's advanced planning! If you were thinking of staying in Tilbury and then making several trips into London then you might possibly find buying a weekly season ticket suits you - a 7-day season from Tilbury into London is currently GBP45.40, whilst a 7-day Travelcard from Tilbury to London (with inclusive travel in zones 1-6) is GBP67.20. You'd need to work out of that worked out better for you than buying tickets on each day you wanted to travel. An Off-peak Return from Tilbury to London is GBP8.50, whilst an inclusive Off-peak Day Travelcard from Tilbury to zones 1-6 is GBP9.30 - both are only valid from the 09:26 train onwards (i.e. not earlier peak trains) - whilst a season ticket or Travelcard is valid at any time (so you could travel in with the commuters). Not sure what the price of an Anytime Day Travelcard is from Tilbury (i.e. valid in the morning peak), but an Anytime Day Return is GBP9.30. [snip] Argh, forgot to say that of course the fares above are at 2010 prices - they'll in all likelihood go up in 2011. Also, the National Rail season ticket calculator can be found he http://ojp.nationalrail.co.uk/en/s/s...ket/calculator |
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On Jun 30, 3:21*pm, Mizter T wrote:
On Jun 30, 7:21 pm, Mizter T wrote: On Jun 30, 4:45 pm, " wrote: I want to go in july 2011. i have an oyster card with no value bought in dec 2008 . Can I use this card to get to tilbury ? Afraid not. [rest of advice snipped] Just seen that you're thinking about a trip in July 2011, a year ahead - that's advanced planning! If you were thinking of staying in Tilbury and then making several trips into London then you might possibly find buying a weekly season ticket suits you - a 7-day season from Tilbury into London is currently GBP45.40, whilst a 7-day Travelcard from Tilbury to London (with inclusive travel in zones 1-6) is GBP67.20. You'd need to work out of that worked out better for you than buying tickets on each day you wanted to travel. An Off-peak Return from Tilbury to London is GBP8.50, whilst an inclusive Off-peak Day Travelcard from Tilbury to zones 1-6 is GBP9.30 - both are only valid from the 09:26 train onwards (i.e. not earlier peak trains) - whilst a season ticket or Travelcard is valid at any time (so you could travel in with the commuters). Not sure what the price of an Anytime Day Travelcard is from Tilbury (i.e. valid in the morning peak), but an Anytime Day Return is GBP9.30. To get a season ticket you'd need a photocard - if you were to want to do this the way I'd recommend approaching it is obtaining the photocard and buying the season ticket/ Travelcard at Fenchurch Street station together (so bring a passport sized photo along!). i'm planning to take a flight from jfk to heathrow arriving 20:30 sleep near LHR then take tube to upminster then take c2c to tilbury riverside then board ship |
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wrote in message ... I want to go in july 2011. i have an oyster card with no value bought in dec 2008 . Can I use this card to get to tilbury ? what would be best route? Let me guess, you're planning to go on the Prinsendam? How much baggage are you going to have? |
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On Jun 30, 3:29*pm, Mizter T wrote:
On Jun 30, 8:06*pm, " wrote: Is it worth it to save the extra money to use this from Heathrow Terminals 123 [London Underground] to Upminster saving £1.10? Alternative oyster single fares: Route 1: Avoiding Zone 1 via any of Kensington Olympia, Shepherds Bush or West Brompton [snip] Route 2: Avoiding Zone 1 via Gospel Oak [snip] Route 3: Avoiding Zone 1 via Stratford (London Overground) [snip] No, I don't think so. Unless you really want an excuse to go via a more labyrinthine route! (Also, note that not all trains to Tilbury stop at Upminster during peak periods.) I got the schedules they leave every half hour during the 11 am to 1 pm time frame |
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On Jun 30, 3:32*pm, Mizter T wrote:
On Jun 30, 8:21*pm, Mizter T wrote: On Jun 30, 7:21 pm, Mizter T wrote: On Jun 30, 4:45 pm, " wrote: I want to go in july 2011. i have an oyster card with no value bought in dec 2008 . Can I use this card to get to tilbury ? Afraid not. [rest of advice snipped] Just seen that you're thinking about a trip in July 2011, a year ahead - that's advanced planning! If you were thinking of staying in Tilbury and then making several trips into London then you might possibly find buying a weekly season ticket suits you - a 7-day season from Tilbury into London is currently GBP45.40, whilst a 7-day Travelcard from Tilbury to London (with inclusive travel in zones 1-6) is GBP67.20. You'd need to work out of that worked out better for you than buying tickets on each day you wanted to travel. An Off-peak Return from Tilbury to London is GBP8.50, whilst an inclusive Off-peak Day Travelcard from Tilbury to zones 1-6 is GBP9.30 - both are only valid from the 09:26 train onwards (i.e. not earlier peak trains) - whilst a season ticket or Travelcard is valid at any time (so you could travel in with the commuters). Not sure what the price of an Anytime Day Travelcard is from Tilbury (i.e. valid in the morning peak), but an Anytime Day Return is GBP9.30. [snip] Argh, forgot to say that of course the fares above are at 2010 prices - they'll in all likelihood go up in 2011. Also, the National Rail season ticket calculator can be found hehttp://ojp.nationalrail.co.uk/en/s/s...ket/calculator i priced it at 2.40 for the tube 3.00 for the train well under the 10 usd i budgeted |
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On Jun 30, 9:35*pm, " wrote: On Jun 30, 8:21*pm, Mizter T wrote: If you were thinking of staying in Tilbury and then making several trips into London [...] [snip stuff re season Travelcards] *i priced it at 2.40 for the tube 3.00 for the train well under the 10 usd i budgeted Now I understand what you're planning on doing - i.e. heading to Tilbury for a boat, rather than staying there - I can see where you're coming from here (metaphorically speaking, of course - I know you're actually coming from NYC!). Yes, an off-peak Tube journey (that's after 09:30 but before 16:00 weekdays) from Heathrow to either Tower Hill (for Fenchurch St) or Upminster would indeed currently cost GBP2.40 (that's a zones 1-6 journey). As you say, a single from Upminster to Tilbury is GBP3.00 - from Fenchurch Street it would cost more than double, at GBP6.20. So by staying on the Underground all the way to Upminster, you would indeed save money (you'd pay for zones 6 to 1 regardless, so going out the other side of z1 back to z6 - i.e. Upminster - is already paid for, as it were). The quid-pro-quo is that the journey on the District line takes a bit longer. But you also get a bit of local east London flavour this way! Must admit I simply hadn't considered staying on the District out to Upminster - but actually it works out quite well. |
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On Jun 30, 5:00*pm, Mizter T wrote:
On Jun 30, 9:35*pm, " wrote: On Jun 30, 8:21*pm, Mizter T wrote: If you were thinking of staying in Tilbury and then making several trips into London [...] [snip stuff re season Travelcards] *i priced it at 2.40 for the tube 3.00 for the train well under the 10 usd i budgeted Now I understand what you're planning on doing - i.e. heading to Tilbury for a boat, rather than staying there - I can see where you're coming from here (metaphorically speaking, of course - I know you're actually coming from NYC!). Yes, an off-peak Tube journey (that's after 09:30 but before 16:00 weekdays) from Heathrow to either Tower Hill (for Fenchurch St) or Upminster would indeed currently cost GBP2.40 (that's a zones 1-6 journey). As you say, a single from Upminster to Tilbury is GBP3.00 - from Fenchurch Street it would cost more than double, at GBP6.20. So by staying on the Underground all the way to Upminster, you would indeed save money (you'd pay for zones 6 to 1 regardless, so going out the other side of z1 back to z6 - i.e. Upminster - is already paid for, as it were). The quid-pro-quo is that the journey on the District line takes a bit longer. But you also get a bit of local east London flavour this way! Must admit I simply hadn't considered staying on the District out to Upminster - but actually it works out quite well. time is no object as i have 6 hours from 930 am to board the ship |
LHR to Tilbury Pier
On Jun 30, 9:33*pm, " wrote: On Jun 30, 3:29*pm, Mizter T wrote: On Jun 30, 8:06*pm, " wrote: Is it worth it to save the extra money to use this from Heathrow Terminals 123 [London Underground] to Upminster saving £1.10? Alternative oyster single fares: Route 1: Avoiding Zone 1 via any of Kensington Olympia, Shepherds Bush or West Brompton [snip] Route 2: Avoiding Zone 1 via Gospel Oak [snip] Route 3: Avoiding Zone 1 via Stratford (London Overground) [snip] No, I don't think so. Unless you really want an excuse to go via a more labyrinthine route! (Also, note that not all trains to Tilbury stop at Upminster during peak periods.) I got the schedules they leave every half hour during the 11 am to 1 pm time frame Yes, that's not a peak period so all the Tilbury-bound trains stop at Upminster en-route. P.S. By all means go via some esoteric route avoiding zone 1 if you want - but they're not routes I'd advise anyone just wanting to get from A to B to use, as they're all rather more involved and complicated than the straightforward route through central London. (This is a journey where staying out of z1 doesn't make a great deal of sense!) |
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On 30 June, 22:00, Mizter T wrote:
On Jun 30, 9:35*pm, " wrote: On Jun 30, 8:21*pm, Mizter T wrote: If you were thinking of staying in Tilbury and then making several trips into London [...] [snip stuff re season Travelcards] *i priced it at 2.40 for the tube 3.00 for the train well under the 10 usd i budgeted Now I understand what you're planning on doing - i.e. heading to Tilbury for a boat, rather than staying there - I can see where you're coming from here (metaphorically speaking, of course - I know you're actually coming from NYC!). Yes, an off-peak Tube journey (that's after 09:30 but before 16:00 weekdays) from Heathrow to either Tower Hill (for Fenchurch St) or Upminster would indeed currently cost GBP2.40 (that's a zones 1-6 journey). As you say, a single from Upminster to Tilbury is GBP3.00 - from Fenchurch Street it would cost more than double, at GBP6.20. So by staying on the Underground all the way to Upminster, you would indeed save money (you'd pay for zones 6 to 1 regardless, so going out the other side of z1 back to z6 - i.e. Upminster - is already paid for, as it were). The quid-pro-quo is that the journey on the District line takes a bit longer. But you also get a bit of local east London flavour this way! Must admit I simply hadn't considered staying on the District out to Upminster - but actually it works out quite well. Has the interavailability been done away with on this route? If it wasn't for the touching out problem when passing through Upminster, I thought it used to be OK to get on the Tilbury train before Upminster. |
LHR to Tilbury Pier
On Jun 30, 10:06*pm, " wrote: On Jun 30, 5:00*pm, Mizter T wrote: On Jun 30, 9:35*pm, " wrote: *i priced it at 2.40 for the tube 3.00 for the train well under the 10 usd i budgeted Now I understand what you're planning on doing - i.e. heading to Tilbury for a boat, rather than staying there - I can see where you're coming from here (metaphorically speaking, of course - I know you're actually coming from NYC!). Yes, an off-peak Tube journey (that's after 09:30 but before 16:00 weekdays) from Heathrow to either Tower Hill (for Fenchurch St) or Upminster would indeed currently cost GBP2.40 (that's a zones 1-6 journey). As you say, a single from Upminster to Tilbury is GBP3.00 - from Fenchurch Street it would cost more than double, at GBP6.20. So by staying on the Underground all the way to Upminster, you would indeed save money (you'd pay for zones 6 to 1 regardless, so going out the other side of z1 back to z6 - i.e. Upminster - is already paid for, as it were). The quid-pro-quo is that the journey on the District line takes a bit longer. But you also get a bit of local east London flavour this way! Must admit I simply hadn't considered staying on the District out to Upminster - but actually it works out quite well. time is no object as i have 6 hours from 930 am to board the ship OK, well that's no problem then. The time penalty isn't that great - Fenchurch Street to Upminster by c2c train takes 24 mins, whilst on the District the journey from Tower Hill to Upminster takes between 45 and 50 mins (so says the TfL journey planner). I suppose if you've got 6 hours you could go via a zone 1 avoiding route if you wanted some adventure - essentially it'd have to be via the North London Line. There'd be quite a bit of changing - a minimum of 5 changes, I reckon - so it ain't straightforward. (One could walk between Earl's Court and West Brompton - not far - or even from Acton Town to South Acton - the latter being a bit more involved.) So it's not really a route I'd recommend! One quick last point - fares will go up in January 2011, so don't be surprised if it costs a little bit more by summer next year! |
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On Jun 30, 10:13*pm, MIG wrote: On 30 June, 22:00, Mizter T wrote: On Jun 30, 9:35*pm, " wrote: *i priced it at 2.40 for the tube 3.00 for the train well under the 10 usd i budgeted Now I understand what you're planning on doing - i.e. heading to Tilbury for a boat, rather than staying there - I can see where you're coming from here (metaphorically speaking, of course - I know you're actually coming from NYC!). Yes, an off-peak Tube journey (that's after 09:30 but before 16:00 weekdays) from Heathrow to either Tower Hill (for Fenchurch St) or Upminster would indeed currently cost GBP2.40 (that's a zones 1-6 journey). As you say, a single from Upminster to Tilbury is GBP3.00 - from Fenchurch Street it would cost more than double, at GBP6.20. So by staying on the Underground all the way to Upminster, you would indeed save money (you'd pay for zones 6 to 1 regardless, so going out the other side of z1 back to z6 - i.e. Upminster - is already paid for, as it were). The quid-pro-quo is that the journey on the District line takes a bit longer. But you also get a bit of local east London flavour this way! Must admit I simply hadn't considered staying on the District out to Upminster - but actually it works out quite well. Has the interavailability been done away with on this route? No - the c2c lines within the zones are all on the TfL PAYG fare scale (as opposed to the NR PAYG fare scale). If it wasn't for the touching out problem when passing through Upminster, I thought it used to be OK to get on the Tilbury train before Upminster. Yes, if David wanted to he could switch from the District at Tower Hill to Fenchurch Street for the c2c line out to Upminster, but there he would have to alight and touch-out to avoid an unresolved journey, then wait there for half an hour (buying his onward ticket to Tilbury if required) for the next c2c train. (Note of explanation - Tower Hill to Fenchurch Street is defined as being an 'out-of-station interchange', so when using Oyster PAYG if a passenger exits one station and re-enters the other within a certain time limit, the journey will be regarded and charged as one continuous journey, rather than two separate journeys. The same should also apply, I think, for passengers using paper tickets.) |
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... I want to go in july 2011. i have an oyster card with no value bought in dec 2008 . Can I use this card to get to tilbury ? what would be best route? Last time I took a train from Tilbury to London (I assume Fenchurch St) the coaches were all red, well, a blackened red, and there was a tank engine on the front! Have things changed since? I know we had an electric train down to Gravesend. MaxB |
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wrote in message ... On Jun 30, 3:21 pm, Mizter T wrote: On Jun 30, 7:21 pm, Mizter T wrote: On Jun 30, 4:45 pm, " wrote: I want to go in july 2011. i have an oyster card with no value bought in dec 2008 . Can I use this card to get to tilbury ? Afraid not. [rest of advice snipped] Just seen that you're thinking about a trip in July 2011, a year ahead - that's advanced planning! If you were thinking of staying in Tilbury and then making several trips into London then you might possibly find buying a weekly season ticket suits you - a 7-day season from Tilbury into London is currently GBP45.40, whilst a 7-day Travelcard from Tilbury to London (with inclusive travel in zones 1-6) is GBP67.20. You'd need to work out of that worked out better for you than buying tickets on each day you wanted to travel. An Off-peak Return from Tilbury to London is GBP8.50, whilst an inclusive Off-peak Day Travelcard from Tilbury to zones 1-6 is GBP9.30 - both are only valid from the 09:26 train onwards (i.e. not earlier peak trains) - whilst a season ticket or Travelcard is valid at any time (so you could travel in with the commuters). Not sure what the price of an Anytime Day Travelcard is from Tilbury (i.e. valid in the morning peak), but an Anytime Day Return is GBP9.30. To get a season ticket you'd need a photocard - if you were to want to do this the way I'd recommend approaching it is obtaining the photocard and buying the season ticket/ Travelcard at Fenchurch Street station together (so bring a passport sized photo along!). i'm planning to take a flight from jfk to heathrow arriving 20:30 sleep near LHR then take tube to upminster then take c2c to tilbury riverside then board ship ..................... In which case take the bus (285?) to Feltham and stay in the Travelodge (can be as cheap as GBP9 if you get on their mailing list). It's not beautiful but it is good value (in my view). Feltham station is adjacent so next day take the SWT train to Waterloo, Jubilee to West Ham and C2C to Tilbury. That part of the Jubilee is built with lifts at all stations which should make interchange easier. http://www.travelodge.co.uk/ |
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On Jun 30, 10:52*pm, "Graham Harrison" wrote: wrote: i'm planning to take a flight from jfk to heathrow arriving 20:30 sleep near LHR *then take tube to upminster then take c2c to tilbury riverside then board ship .................... In which case take the bus (285?) to Feltham and stay in the Travelodge (can be as cheap as GBP9 if you get on their mailing list). * It's not beautiful but it is good value (in my view). * Feltham station is adjacent so next day take the SWT train to Waterloo, Jubilee to West Ham and C2C to Tilbury. That part of the Jubilee is built with lifts at all stations which should make interchange easier. 285 bus from Heathrow central to Feltham, yes. FWIW, at the current fares it would then be 1.20 for the bus, then the next day either: (a) 4.30 off-peak PAYG fare (as per the NR/TfL through journey farescale) to either West Ham or Upminster (travelling on either District line or c2c from West Ham to Upminster); then 4.90 from West Ham to Tilbury, or (as upthread) 3.00 from Upminster to Tilbury (so a total of either 7.30 or 9.20). (b) 11.30 Off-peak Day Single paper ticket for the whole through journey - this would be valid on the Tube between Waterloo and West Ham (or Upminster, if that's what one wanted to do). Will bear in mind the Feltham YOI, er sorry I mean Travelodge, it might come in handy (not really for myself but rather for others). It can really be as cheap as GBP9? (Obviously a special offer, but still.) |
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On Jun 30, 4:33*pm, "Graham Harrison"
wrote: wrote in message ... I want to go in july 2011. i have an oyster card with no value bought in dec 2008 . Can I use this card to get to tilbury ? what would be best route? Let me guess, you're planning to go on the Prinsendam? * How much baggage are you going to have? a carryon rollerboard that fits in an overhead bin on a plane |
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On Jun 30, 5:27*pm, Mizter T wrote:
On Jun 30, 10:06*pm, " wrote: On Jun 30, 5:00*pm, Mizter T wrote: On Jun 30, 9:35*pm, " wrote: *i priced it at 2.40 for the tube 3.00 for the train well under the 10 usd i budgeted Now I understand what you're planning on doing - i.e. heading to Tilbury for a boat, rather than staying there - I can see where you're coming from here (metaphorically speaking, of course - I know you're actually coming from NYC!). Yes, an off-peak Tube journey (that's after 09:30 but before 16:00 weekdays) from Heathrow to either Tower Hill (for Fenchurch St) or Upminster would indeed currently cost GBP2.40 (that's a zones 1-6 journey). As you say, a single from Upminster to Tilbury is GBP3.00 - from Fenchurch Street it would cost more than double, at GBP6.20. So by staying on the Underground all the way to Upminster, you would indeed save money (you'd pay for zones 6 to 1 regardless, so going out the other side of z1 back to z6 - i.e. Upminster - is already paid for, as it were). The quid-pro-quo is that the journey on the District line takes a bit longer. But you also get a bit of local east London flavour this way! Must admit I simply hadn't considered staying on the District out to Upminster - but actually it works out quite well. time is no object as i have 6 hours from 930 am to board the ship OK, well that's no problem then. The time penalty isn't that great - Fenchurch Street to Upminster by c2c train takes 24 mins, whilst on the District the journey from Tower Hill to Upminster takes between 45 and 50 mins (so says the TfL journey planner). I suppose if you've got 6 hours you could go via a zone 1 avoiding route if you wanted some adventure - essentially it'd have to be via the North London Line. There'd be quite a bit of changing - a minimum of 5 changes, I reckon - so it ain't straightforward. (One could walk between Earl's Court and West Brompton - not far - or even from Acton Town to South Acton - the latter being a bit more involved.) So it's not really a route I'd recommend! One quick last point - fares will go up in January 2011, so don't be surprised if it costs a little bit more by summer next year! i figured even with a 10% rise it will be good |
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(b) 11.30 Off-peak Day Single paper ticket for the whole through journey - this would be valid on the Tube between Waterloo and West Ham (or Upminster, if that's what one wanted to do). Will bear in mind the Feltham YOI, er sorry I mean Travelodge, it might come in handy (not really for myself but rather for others). It can really be as cheap as GBP9? (Obviously a special offer, but still.) Might also be worth staying on the south side of the river - get a train from Waterloo East to Gravesend then cross over on the Gravesend Tilbury ferry, which drops you of near the Cruise terminal. Probably quicker than getting to Tilbury Town, which is a way from the Cruise terminal anyway. http://www.thurrock.gov.uk/travel/tr...ferry_services |
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Is the transfer at Earls Court easy with either a lift or escalator? I
could catch the train from Wimbledon there too. |
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On Jul 8, 7:33*pm, " wrote: Is the transfer at Earls Court easy with either a lift or escalator? I could catch the train from Wimbledon there too. If you're changing from Heathrow on the Piccadilly line to the District line, the easiest places to do that at are Barons Court or Hammersmith - received wisdom has it that Barons Court is the preferred choice, and I'd go along with that as the station is rather less busy than Hammersmith, plus it's quite an interesting place too (could perhaps be described as 'quaint', though we don't really go in for descriptors like that over here!). The reason the interchanges at these two stations are so easy is that it's cross-platform - i.e. the Picc and District going in the same direction use alternate sides of the same island platform. At Earl's Court there are lifts to interchange between the Piccadilly and District lines, but if interchanging from District to District in the same direction it's cross-platform. Note that if you are planning on an extended round-the-houses route to get from Heathrow to Upminster then you might hit problems if you're using Oyster PAYG - the system is designed on the premise of A-to-B journeys, and if journeys exceed a certain time-limit then things go awry (note that the time limits are generous and fine for normal journeys, so there's no need to hurry - but it's no good for standing at the end of platforms watching the world go by!). |
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On Jul 8, 3:34*pm, Mizter T wrote:
On Jul 8, 7:33*pm, " wrote: Is the transfer at Earls Court easy with either a lift or escalator? I could catch the train from Wimbledon there too. If you're changing from Heathrow on the Piccadilly line to the District line, the easiest places to do that at are Barons Court or Hammersmith - received wisdom has it that Barons Court is the preferred choice, and I'd go along with that as the station is rather less busy than Hammersmith, plus it's quite an interesting place too (could perhaps be described as 'quaint', though we don't really go in for descriptors like that over here!). The reason the interchanges at these two stations are so easy is that it's cross-platform - i.e. the Picc and District going in the same direction use alternate sides of the same island platform. At Earl's Court there are lifts to interchange between the Piccadilly and District lines, but if interchanging from District to District in the same direction it's cross-platform. Note that if you are planning on an extended round-the-houses route to get from Heathrow to Upminster then you might hit problems if you're using Oyster PAYG - the system is designed on the premise of A-to-B journeys, and if journeys exceed a certain time-limit then things go awry (note that the time limits are generous and fine for normal journeys, so there's no need to hurry - but it's no good for standing at the end of platforms watching the world go by!). I'm actually looking for the quickest route from lhr to upminster using the 2.40 1 to 6 fare |
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On Jul 12, 10:37*pm, " wrote: On Jul 8, 3:34*pm, Mizter T wrote: On Jul 8, 7:33*pm, " wrote: Is the transfer at Earls Court easy with either a lift or escalator? I could catch the train from Wimbledon there too. If you're changing from Heathrow on the Piccadilly line to the District line, the easiest places to do that at are Barons Court or Hammersmith - received wisdom has it that Barons Court is the preferred choice, and I'd go along with that as the station is rather less busy than Hammersmith, plus it's quite an interesting place too (could perhaps be described as 'quaint', though we don't really go in for descriptors like that over here!). The reason the interchanges at these two stations are so easy is that it's cross-platform - i.e. the Picc and District going in the same direction use alternate sides of the same island platform. At Earl's Court there are lifts to interchange between the Piccadilly and District lines, but if interchanging from District to District in the same direction it's cross-platform. Note that if you are planning on an extended round-the-houses route to get from Heathrow to Upminster then you might hit problems if you're using Oyster PAYG - the system is designed on the premise of A-to-B journeys, and if journeys exceed a certain time-limit then things go awry (note that the time limits are generous and fine for normal journeys, so there's no need to hurry - but it's no good for standing at the end of platforms watching the world go by!). I'm actually looking for the quickest route from lhr to upminster using the 2.40 1 to 6 fare If you're going for the Heathrow to Upminster option, then the quickest way of doing that (excluding the expensive Heathrow Express) would be Piccadilly line to either Hammersmith or Barons Court, then a cross platform interchange with the District line to Upminster. (Barons Court is the preferable place to change though.) That would currently cost GBP2.40 - that's the off-peak zones 1-6 Tube fare that you mention. Whilst it would be possible, and wouldn't cost any extra, for you to get off the District line at Tower Hill, walk round the corner to Fenchurch Street and get on a slightly faster c2c suburban train to Upminster, you'd then *have* to get off and go and touch-out (by exiting the automatic gates) at Upminster - if you didn't do this then your Oyster card would get charged GBP7 (for an 'unresolved journey), plus you'd also need to go and buy your ticket from Upminster to Tilbury anyway - whilst this would be possible, it wouldn't be any quicker, as you'd then have to wait at Upminster for half an hour for the next c2c train. (The half-hourly c2c trains run from Fenchurch Street via Upminster to Tilbury Town, ultimately ending up at Southend Central.) If time really was of the essence, then one would get off the District line at Tower Hill, go to Fenchurch Street and buy a Fenchurch Street to Tilbury Town single for GBP6.20. As we've discussed, the Upminster to Tilbury Town single costs GBP3.00. To compress my advice into a single long-winded sentence - go from Heathrow to Barons Court on the Piccadilly line, change for the District line to Upminster, exit through the automatic gates (ensuring that you touch-out properly with your Oyster card to end your Oyster Pay-as-you-go journey), go to the adjacent ticket office (or ticket machine) and buy your single from Upminster to Tilbury Town, re-enter through the gates with the paper ticket you've just bought, get on the c2c train to Tilbury Town, get off and enjoy your cruise, and maybe come back here and post a link to the photos of polar bears (or whatever) you took on your jaunt! |
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Would it be possible just to add 2.40 or what ever the fare to my
oyster card? |
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On Jul 13, 4:09*am, " wrote: Would it be possible just to add 2.40 or what ever the fare to my oyster card? Yes - though London Underground now impose a GBP5 minimum top-up when using their ticket offices (i.e. the ticket windows), so you'd probably have to top it up at a self-service ticket machine at Heathrow tube station and you'd need to have the correct amount of British coinage to do so, as they won't give change when topping up an Oyster card with cash - note that some Tube ticket machines only take cards, so make sure you don't join a queue for one of them! Also there are still a few Tube ticket machines out there that don't 'do' Oyster at all and only sell paper tickets - not sure if this is the case or not at Heathrow, but you can avoid them by looking for a machine with the yellow Oyster pads, like this one: http://www.flickr.com/photos/anthonyfalla/3089886764/ There's also a TfL London Travel Information Centre opposite the entrance to Heathrow Tube station - I'm not sure if they have a minimum top-up amount policy, but they're normally pretty helpful so they might be willing to add the amount needed correct fare to your card and give you change - I couldn't say for sure though. |
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On 13 July, 09:17, Mizter T wrote:
On Jul 13, 4:09*am, " wrote: Would it be possible just to add 2.40 or what ever the fare to my oyster card? Yes - though London Underground now impose a GBP5 minimum top-up when using their ticket offices (i.e. the ticket windows), so you'd probably have to top it up at a self-service ticket machine at Heathrow tube station and you'd need to have the correct amount of British coinage to do so, as they won't give change when topping up an Oyster card with cash - note that some Tube ticket machines only take cards, so make sure you don't join a queue for one of them! Not knowing the minimum, I went to a counter to top up £3 and was told it was a minimum of £5. I said "so I have to use the machine then?" and then she topped up £3 anyway. If you are down to your last fiver and need to put on £3 so that you can get to work and need £2 to buy a sandwich at lunchtime, it's not very user-friendly to have to top up £5 at the counter or use a machine that won't give change. Yes, I know: get used to diverting to a friendly shop so that LU can close down their ticketing facilities. |
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On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 02:08:44 -0700 (PDT)
MIG wrote: On 13 July, 09:17, Mizter T wrote: On Jul 13, 4:09=A0am, " wrote: Would it be possible just to add 2.40 or what ever the fare to my oyster card? Yes - though London Underground now impose a GBP5 minimum top-up when using their ticket offices (i.e. the ticket windows), so you'd probably have to top it up at a self-service ticket machine at Heathrow tube station and you'd need to have the correct amount of British coinage to do so, as they won't give change when topping up an Oyster card with cash - note that some Tube ticket machines only take cards, so make sure you don't join a queue for one of them! Not knowing the minimum, I went to a counter to top up =A33 and was told it was a minimum of =A35. I said "so I have to use the machine then?" and then she topped up =A33 anyway. They're probably getting ready for when there are no possible journies you can buy that are less than a fiver. If Boris has anything to do with it that'll probably be next year. Yes, I know: get used to diverting to a friendly shop so that LU can close down their ticketing facilities. If my station is anything to go by its so the staff can hang around and chat. Virtually every morning there are 3 staff at the barrier doing nothing and 1 in the ticket office with the obligatory queue. B2003 |
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On Jul 13, 10:08*am, MIG wrote: On 13 July, 09:17, Mizter T wrote: On Jul 13, 4:09*am, " wrote: Would it be possible just to add 2.40 or what ever the fare to my oyster card? Yes - though London Underground now impose a GBP5 minimum top-up when using their ticket offices (i.e. the ticket windows), so you'd probably have to top it up at a self-service ticket machine at Heathrow tube station and you'd need to have the correct amount of British coinage to do so, as they won't give change when topping up an Oyster card with cash - note that some Tube ticket machines only take cards, so make sure you don't join a queue for one of them! Not knowing the minimum, I went to a counter to top up £3 and was told it was a minimum of £5. *I said "so I have to use the machine then?" and then she topped up £3 anyway. If you are down to your last fiver and need to put on £3 so that you can get to work and need £2 to buy a sandwich at lunchtime, it's not very user-friendly to have to top up £5 at the counter or use a machine that won't give change. I don't think it's necessarily an absolute hard and fast rule - a friend did much the same as you did recently. Yes, I know: get used to diverting to a friendly shop so that LU can close down their ticketing facilities. |
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"Mizter T" wrote in message ... I don't think it's necessarily an absolute hard and fast rule - a friend did much the same as you did recently. I'm sure I read (here?) that they don't apply the limit to children topping up at ticket office windows. Paul S |
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On 13 July, 10:53, "Paul Scott"
wrote: "Mizter T" wrote in message ... I don't think it's necessarily an absolute hard and fast rule - a friend did much the same as you did recently. I'm sure I read (here?) that they don't apply the limit to children topping up at ticket office windows. Paul S I'll take that as a compliment from the lady concerned. |
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On Jul 13, 11:41*am, MIG wrote: On 13 July, 10:53, "Paul Scott" wrote: "Mizter T" wrote: I don't think it's necessarily an absolute hard and fast rule - a friend did much the same as you did recently. I'm sure I read (here?) that they don't apply the limit to children topping up at ticket office windows. I'll take that as a compliment from the lady concerned. Ha ha, very good! |
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On Jul 14, 12:51*am, wrote: (Mizter T) wrote: Yes - though London Underground now impose a GBP5 minimum top-up when using their ticket offices (i.e. the ticket windows), Huh? Since when? I'm trying to remember when I last topped up at a ticket office and not a ticket stop. [...] January: http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/medi...tre/13958.aspx Though I think that's when it was applied across the network, as it's existed beforehand at certain busy stations (London termini) for a while (can't recall when that started). [...] I never top up as much as £5. I'm tempted to ask why, but as I reckon I could quite easily script some of the likely responses (not necessarily all coming from you though) I'm not sure I'll bother! |
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