"MIG" wrote in message
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On 20 July, 09:28, skyguy wrote:
The sign at Wimbledon also seems to suggest that you must touch the
pink validator if changing between tube and train, but as far as I can
see almost no one ever does. The confusion isn't helped by the fact
that there's yellow validators on the tube platforms, pink validators
just beyond the platforms, yellow ones on the ticket gates at the top,
and special tram ones on that platform - I think people have learnt to
ignore them unless they have to open a gate.

The situation has been improved by the acceptance of PAYG on NR.

Previously, at Stratford you could ignore the pads at the end of the
DLR and on the Central platforms and touch out at the barrier.

PAYG on NR has only reduced the numbers of people needing the platform
validators, it hasn't allowed the facility to be removed - they are
basically there for people transferring to/from NR services that extend
beyond zone 6, just like those at Wimbledon.

Paul S

Paul Scott wrote:

The situation has been improved by the acceptance of PAYG on NR.

Previously, at Stratford you could ignore the pads at the end of the
DLR and on the Central platforms and touch out at the barrier.

PAYG on NR has only reduced the numbers of people needing the platform
validators, it hasn't allowed the facility to be removed - they are
basically there for people transferring to/from NR services that extend
beyond zone 6, just like those at Wimbledon.

What happens now if one touches on the platform pads when interchanging?
Does it terminate the PAYG journey completely or does touching out further
down the line make it an unnecessary interchange touch?

On 20 July, 15:16, "Tim Roll-Pickering" T.C.Roll-
wrote:
Paul Scott wrote:
The situation has been improved by the acceptance of PAYG on NR.
Previously, at Stratford you could ignore the pads at the end of the
DLR and on the Central platforms and touch out at the barrier.
PAYG on NR has only reduced the numbers of people needing the platform
validators, it hasn't allowed the facility to be removed *- they are
basically there for people transferring to/from NR services that extend
beyond zone 6, just like those at Wimbledon.

What happens now if one touches on the platform pads when interchanging?
Does it terminate the PAYG journey completely or does touching out further
down the line make it an unnecessary interchange touch?

Many have been switched off, like at London Bridge. But I was getting
at the fact that there now always has to be something at the NR exit,
whereas in the past you might have missed the platform validator (as
on the DLR at Greenwich) and then not had the opportunity to pass
another one.

"Tim Roll-Pickering" wrote in message
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What happens now if one touches on the platform pads when interchanging?
Does it terminate the PAYG journey completely or does touching out further
down the line make it an unnecessary interchange touch?

Apparently the system sets a sort of 'partial exit' if you are already
touched in; another poster here, 'Mizter T', coined the term 'soft exit'.
If you aren't already touched in it starts a new journey.

Whatever it is called behind the scenes, the journey can continue. I think
it gets sorted out either at a subsequent proper exit through a gateline, or
after some sort of timeout, whichever comes first.

Paul S

On Jul 20, 3:16*pm, "Tim Roll-Pickering" T.C.Roll-
wrote:

Paul Scott wrote:
The situation has been improved by the acceptance of PAYG on NR.
Previously, at Stratford you could ignore the pads at the end of the
DLR and on the Central platforms and touch out at the barrier.

PAYG on NR has only reduced the numbers of people needing the platform
validators, it hasn't allowed the facility to be removed *- they are
basically there for people transferring to/from NR services that extend
beyond zone 6, just like those at Wimbledon.

What happens now if one touches on the platform pads when interchanging?
Does it terminate the PAYG journey completely or does touching out further
down the line make it an unnecessary interchange touch?

Nothing's changed in the way 'interchange validators' are configured -
but as MIG states they've been turned off at London Bridge (on the NR
Kent through platforms), presumably pending removal at some point - I
suspect this is because they kinda leave a bit of a hole in the system.

On 20 July, 15:44, Mizter T wrote:
On Jul 20, 3:16*pm, "Tim Roll-Pickering" T.C.Roll-

wrote:
Paul Scott wrote:
The situation has been improved by the acceptance of PAYG on NR.
Previously, at Stratford you could ignore the pads at the end of the
DLR and on the Central platforms and touch out at the barrier.

PAYG on NR has only reduced the numbers of people needing the platform
validators, it hasn't allowed the facility to be removed *- they are
basically there for people transferring to/from NR services that extend
beyond zone 6, just like those at Wimbledon.

What happens now if one touches on the platform pads when interchanging?
Does it terminate the PAYG journey completely or does touching out further
down the line make it an unnecessary interchange touch?

Nothing's changed in the way 'interchange validators' are configured -
but as MIG states they've been turned off at London Bridge (on the NR
Kent through platforms), presumably pending removal at some point - I
suspect this is because they kinda leave a bit of a hole in the system.

There are so many other holes though ...

Do you mean they would have allowed people to arrive from Brighton
without a ticket and then use PAYG from London Bridge to Charing Cross
(say)?

Wasn't that always possible before, as long as one proceeded to
Farringdon or some such?