On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 14:24:13 +0100
Clive wrote:
When I take foreign notes into my bank (Barclay's) for refund in pounds,
they take the precaution of checking them against pictures of currency
in a big book. Could you expect a barmaid in Bristol to do this it she
has never seen a note like it before?

Exactly how many pubs check for the validity of english bank notes?

What if she were threatened with
the sack for accepting anything she didn't know to be legal?

If the pub didn't provide her with a method of checking them then she could
take them to court for unfair dismissal.

B2003

In article ,
d wrote:
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 14:24:13 +0100
Clive wrote:
When I take foreign notes into my bank (Barclay's) for refund in pounds,
they take the precaution of checking them against pictures of currency
in a big book. Could you expect a barmaid in Bristol to do this it she
has never seen a note like it before?

Exactly how many pubs check for the validity of english bank notes?

English bar staff are likely to be reasonably familiar with English
banknotes, seeing as they fondle fairly large quantities of them
every day.

The same is not true of Scottish notes.

What if she were threatened with
the sack for accepting anything she didn't know to be legal?

If the pub didn't provide her with a method of checking them then she could
take them to court for unfair dismissal.

Not if the pub's policy was "no Scottish banknotes please - we're English".

--
Mike Bristow

On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 14:49:31 +0100
Mike Bristow wrote:
In article ,
d wrote:
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 14:24:13 +0100
Clive wrote:
When I take foreign notes into my bank (Barclay's) for refund in pounds,
they take the precaution of checking them against pictures of currency
in a big book. Could you expect a barmaid in Bristol to do this it she
has never seen a note like it before?

Exactly how many pubs check for the validity of english bank notes?

English bar staff are likely to be reasonably familiar with English
banknotes, seeing as they fondle fairly large quantities of them
every day.

The same is not true of Scottish notes.

I doubt anyone could spot a good forgery of a bank of england note without
specialist equipment these days. Certainly not simply by "fondling" it for
2 seconds.

B2003

In article ,
d wrote:
I doubt anyone could spot a good forgery of a bank of england note without
specialist equipment these days. Certainly not simply by "fondling" it for
2 seconds.

It wouldn't have to be a good forgery of a scottish note. I reckon
you can design your own series of notes from a fictional scottish
bank (say, the Royal Edinburgh Bank) and a fair portion of English
folk wouldn't be able to tell you it's a fake.

And that's exactly why many retailers will be unhappy accepting the
notes.

With BoE notes, it at least has to look like a BoE note!

--
Mike Bristow

On 2010\08\11 17:17, Mike Bristow wrote:
In ,
d wrote:
I doubt anyone could spot a good forgery of a bank of england note without
specialist equipment these days. Certainly not simply by "fondling" it for
2 seconds.

It wouldn't have to be a good forgery of a scottish note. I reckon
you can design your own series of notes from a fictional scottish
bank (say, the Royal Edinburgh Bank) and a fair portion of English
folk wouldn't be able to tell you it's a fake.

And that's exactly why many retailers will be unhappy accepting the
notes.

With BoE notes, it at least has to look like a BoE note!

The BoE notes also have safety features such as foil on the surface,
ultraviolet labelling etc which the Scottish notes don't have, making
Scottish notes easier to counterfeit. There is little point in the BoE
introducing these features if shops were legally required to accept
Scottish notes that don't have them.

In article , d
says...

On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 14:49:31 +0100
Mike Bristow wrote:
In article ,
d wrote:
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 14:24:13 +0100
Clive wrote:
When I take foreign notes into my bank (Barclay's) for refund in pounds,
they take the precaution of checking them against pictures of currency
in a big book. Could you expect a barmaid in Bristol to do this it she
has never seen a note like it before?

Exactly how many pubs check for the validity of english bank notes?

English bar staff are likely to be reasonably familiar with English
banknotes, seeing as they fondle fairly large quantities of them
every day.

The same is not true of Scottish notes.

I doubt anyone could spot a good forgery of a bank of england note without
specialist equipment these days. Certainly not simply by "fondling" it for
2 seconds.

B2003

Be they barmaids in Bristol or cashiers in a London Tesco it's all to do
with familiarity. I'm sure Boltar is correct in saying that a good
forgery of a smaller denomination Bank of England note would probably
not be noticed but anyone involved in retail would know a bad one
immediately. Some pubs I use do still check twenty and fifty pound
notes with a device [ultra violet?].

Slightly off-topic, as an office junior in a Thomas Cook office in the
late fifties I once had to take a Scottish £100 note to the local
Midland Bank to change into English money [at a discount of sixpence in
the pound]. I was petrified carrying this huge note in the street.

Of course we got quite a few lesser notes which did become familiar and
several times I helped out Scots at Heathrow when having their notes
refused by Green Line drivers and conductors. To this day ECML staff on
trains to Scotland will occasionally when giving change ask where you
are traveling to.

Even more off-topic, during a period when I was based at the Cook's
office in Queensway we once had a 'working girl', of which there were
quite a few in the area, being bitterly disappointed when it was pointed
out to her that the Scottish note she had accepted from a client was not
genuine. It stated that it was payable at the Bonny Banks of Loch
Lomond.

On 11/08/2010 14:49, Mike Bristow wrote:
In ,
d wrote:
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 14:24:13 +0100
wrote:
When I take foreign notes into my bank (Barclay's) for refund in pounds,
they take the precaution of checking them against pictures of currency
in a big book. Could you expect a barmaid in Bristol to do this it she
has never seen a note like it before?

Exactly how many pubs check for the validity of english bank notes?

English bar staff are likely to be reasonably familiar with English
banknotes, seeing as they fondle fairly large quantities of them
every day.

The same is not true of Scottish notes.

What if she were threatened with
the sack for accepting anything she didn't know to be legal?

If the pub didn't provide her with a method of checking them then she could
take them to court for unfair dismissal.

Not if the pub's policy was "no Scottish banknotes please - we're English".

Many London pubs in years past did not accept Northern Irish notes, and
would have a sign stating just that. I guess that this was because of
the bank heist a few years back but, AIUI, many retailers in England are
still reluctant to accept them.

I wonder what would happen if somebody tried to pay for a pint with a
Scottish one-pound note.

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I wonder what would happen if somebody tried to pay for a pint with a
Scottish one-pound note.

The first thing the barman would do is ask for another couple of quid I
expect...

Paul S

In message o7D8o.87903$pW4.52285@hurricane, at 20:47:32 on Wed, 11 Aug
2010, " remarked:

I wonder what would happen if somebody tried to pay for a pint with a
Scottish one-pound note.

The barman would probably say they were about £2 short.
--
Roland Perry

On 11/08/2010 21:07, Roland Perry wrote:
In message o7D8o.87903$pW4.52285@hurricane, at 20:47:32 on Wed, 11 Aug
2010, " remarked:

I wonder what would happen if somebody tried to pay for a pint with a
Scottish one-pound note.

The barman would probably say they were about £2 short.
Let me rephrase that: What if you tried to pay for your pint using
several Scottish one-pound notes?