"Bruce" wrote

Any recent progress with Airtrack?

The public inquiry into the Transport & Works Act application has been
deferred, due to the 'government spending review.' I'm not clear what that
has to do with it, as they'd previously announced that they were going to
pay for it with the funds they'd saved up for the 3rd runway.

Peter

"PhilD" wrote in message
...
On 3 Sep, 13:21, "Paul Scott" wrote:
Isn't it to reduce the service during Crossrail enabling engineering
works
on the main lines?

Or is it so that when Crossrail is complete, "they" can restore the
service level and call it a massive improvement?

:-)

Once Crossrail is complete the Heathrow Connect service will presumably
no longer exist anyway.

Peter Smyth

On Sep 3, 2:31*pm, "Paul Scott"
wrote:
"Andy" wrote in message

...

Likely to just be engineering alterations, the times (past the hour)
have also changed, there is also a reduction in some of the calls
(Southall loses one of its two stops per hour) of the Reading trains
after 12th September and retiming of some of the fast services. It
will be interesting to see if the Connect trains resume in the
December timetable.

I've just read elsewhere that whatever the works are for, Slough to
Paddington is down to 2 tracks on Sundays for the duration...


And under those circumstances, the Connect service will have the most
pathing issues due to fitting services onto the Stockley Park flyover.

On 3 Sep, 18:37, Andy wrote:
On Sep 3, 2:31*pm, "Paul Scott"
wrote:

"Andy" wrote in message

....

Likely to just be engineering alterations, the times (past the hour)
have also changed, there is also a reduction in some of the calls
(Southall loses one of its two stops per hour) of the Reading trains
after 12th September and retiming of some of the fast services. It
will be interesting to see if the Connect trains resume in the
December timetable.

I've just read elsewhere that whatever the works are for, Slough to
Paddington is down to 2 tracks on Sundays for the duration...

And under those circumstances, the Connect service will have the most
pathing issues due to fitting services onto the Stockley Park flyover.

Don't forget Heathrow Connect is now minus one EMU, so Siemens do not
have a maintenance spare that they used to have. The unit taken off
the Paddington service is now part of the "Express" fleet and confined
to the Terminal 4 shuttle.

"Peter Masson" wrote:
"Bruce" wrote

Any recent progress with Airtrack?

The public inquiry into the Transport & Works Act application has been
deferred, due to the 'government spending review.' I'm not clear what that
has to do with it, as they'd previously announced that they were going to
pay for it with the funds they'd saved up for the 3rd runway.


I thought not. ;-)

wrote on 03
September 2010 23:02:24 ...
On 3 Sep, 18:37, wrote:
On Sep 3, 2:31 pm, "Paul
wrote:

wrote in message

...

Likely to just be engineering alterations, the times (past the hour)
have also changed, there is also a reduction in some of the calls
(Southall loses one of its two stops per hour) of the Reading trains
after 12th September and retiming of some of the fast services. It
will be interesting to see if the Connect trains resume in the
December timetable.

I've just read elsewhere that whatever the works are for, Slough to
Paddington is down to 2 tracks on Sundays for the duration...

And under those circumstances, the Connect service will have the most
pathing issues due to fitting services onto the Stockley Park flyover.

Don't forget Heathrow Connect is now minus one EMU, so Siemens do not
have a maintenance spare that they used to have. The unit taken off
the Paddington service is now part of the "Express" fleet and confined
to the Terminal 4 shuttle.

I think you'll find that there is still a spare. Previously they had a
fleet of 5 trains and needed 4 to run the service. Each train would run
to T4, then do a shuttle trip to T123 and back, then return to Paddington.

They now have a dedicated Express-liveried CLass 360 for the shuttle.
The Connect trains now run only between T123 and Paddington and they can
do that with only 3 trains, leaving one spare as before.
--
Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)

On Sep 4, 12:06*am, "Richard J." wrote:
wrote on 03
September 2010 23:02:24 ...





On 3 Sep, 18:37, *wrote:
On Sep 3, 2:31 pm, "Paul
wrote:

*wrote in message

....

Likely to just be engineering alterations, the times (past the hour)
have also changed, there is also a reduction in some of the calls
(Southall loses one of its two stops per hour) of the Reading trains
after 12th September and retiming of some of the fast services. It
will be interesting to see if the Connect trains resume in the
December timetable.

I've just read elsewhere that whatever the works are for, Slough to
Paddington is down to 2 tracks on Sundays for the duration...

And under those circumstances, the Connect service will have the most
pathing issues due to fitting services onto the Stockley Park flyover.

Don't forget Heathrow Connect is now minus one EMU, so Siemens do not
have a maintenance spare that they used to have. The unit taken off
the Paddington service is now part of the "Express" fleet and confined
to the Terminal 4 shuttle.

I think you'll find that there is still a spare. *Previously they had a
fleet of 5 trains and needed 4 to run the service. *Each train would run
to T4, then do a shuttle trip to T123 and back, then return to Paddington..

They now have a dedicated Express-liveried CLass 360 for the shuttle.
The Connect trains now run only between T123 and Paddington and they can
do that with only 3 trains, leaving one spare as before.

The Connect units run empty, I think to Terminal 5 to reverse. But as
they no longer run the extra T123-T4 shuttle you are correct that they
now only need three units for the Connect service.

On Fri, 3 Sep 2010 15:02:24 -0700 (PDT),
" wrote:

Don't forget Heathrow Connect is now minus one EMU, so Siemens do not
have a maintenance spare that they used to have. The unit taken off
the Paddington service is now part of the "Express" fleet and confined
to the Terminal 4 shuttle.

Ah, I did see that one and wondered why it was branded in that way.

Neil
--
Neil Williams in Milton Keynes, UK
To reply put my first name before the at.

"Andy" wrote in message
...
On Sep 4, 12:06 am, "Richard J." wrote:
wrote on 03
September 2010 23:02:24 ...

Don't forget Heathrow Connect is now minus one EMU, so Siemens do not
have a maintenance spare that they used to have. The unit taken off
the Paddington service is now part of the "Express" fleet and confined
to the Terminal 4 shuttle.

I think you'll find that there is still a spare. Previously they had a
fleet of 5 trains and needed 4 to run the service. Each train would run
to T4, then do a shuttle trip to T123 and back, then return to
Paddington.

They now have a dedicated Express-liveried CLass 360 for the shuttle.
The Connect trains now run only between T123 and Paddington and they can
do that with only 3 trains, leaving one spare as before.

The Connect units run empty, I think to Terminal 5 to reverse. But as
they no longer run the extra T123-T4 shuttle you are correct that they
now only need three units for the Connect service.

Yes they do run empty to terminal 5. If short of 360s then I don't see why a
332 couldn't do the terminal 4 shuttle and they have a few spare 332s.

John

On 5 Sep, 10:57, "John C" wrote:

Yes they do run empty to terminal 5.

To the platform? If so, how bloody silly. I assume they don't run in
service deliberately to make it less convenient and make people use
HEx.

Neil