Oystercard 'price capping' not being introduced at fares revision
 

It is now offical that Oystercards won't have the 'price capping' until
Spring / Summer 2004.

Oystercard 'price capping' not being introduced at faresrevision
 

On 5/12/03 12:27 am, in article ,
"Robin Mayes" wrote:

It is now offical that Oystercards won't have the 'price capping' until
Spring / Summer 2004.



Who sez?


--
Steve.

Oystercard 'price capping' not being introduced at fares revision
 

In message , Steve
writes
On 5/12/03 12:27 am, in article ,
"Robin Mayes" wrote:

It is now offical that Oystercards won't have the 'price capping' until
Spring / Summer 2004.



Who sez?

My information too.
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Kat Frogs have it easy. They can eat what bugs them.

Oystercard 'price capping' not being introduced at faresrevision
 

"Steve" wrote in message
...
On 5/12/03 12:27 am, in article
,
"Robin Mayes" wrote:

It is now offical that Oystercards won't have the 'price capping' until
Spring / Summer 2004.



Who sez?


T/C 49/03

Oystercard 'price capping' not being introduced at fares revision
 

As I posted in an earlier thread, this is daft. I understand the need to
roll-out the system gradually, as has been the case with oyster season tickets,
in order to deal with bugs as they arise. But they should not introduce
pre-pay until the system is ready for full implementation. I don't see much
point in buying a pre-pay with this 'interim' system.

Doing it this way will just confuse customers and make life more difficult for
staff.

Oystercard 'price capping' not being introduced at fares revision
 

"umpston" wrote in message
...
As I posted in an earlier thread, this is daft. I understand the need to
roll-out the system gradually, as has been the case with oyster season
tickets,
in order to deal with bugs as they arise. But they should not introduce
pre-pay until the system is ready for full implementation. I don't see
much
point in buying a pre-pay with this 'interim' system.


Agreed

Doing it this way will just confuse customers and make life more difficult
for
staff.

Agreed! The training and backup has been woefully inadequate as there are
already many problems being encountered that front-line staff can't deal
with and have to refer the customer to the Oystercard helpdesk which appears
to have resourcing problems. I have raised these problems with my local
management and will be bringing it up at the next forum on 12th December.

Oystercard 'price capping' not being introduced at fares revision
 

"Robin Mayes" wrote in message ...
"umpston" wrote in message
...
As I posted in an earlier thread, this is daft. I understand the need to
roll-out the system gradually, as has been the case with oyster season
tickets,
in order to deal with bugs as they arise. But they should not introduce
pre-pay until the system is ready for full implementation. I don't see
much
point in buying a pre-pay with this 'interim' system.



I think they should forget capping for now, and let you load one-day
and weekend LT cards and travelcards onto your oystercard.

Oystercard 'price capping' not being introduced at fares revision
 

Having just attended pre-pay and smartcard training,I can confirm that
price capping will not be available due to a problem with the software.
So all customers that intend to make multiple journeys on LUL after Jan 4th
should be advised to buy 1day travelcards.
The full rollout of oyster will not be complete until Feb 28th nee march.
"Matthew Dickinson" wrote in message
om...
"Robin Mayes" wrote in message
...
"umpston" wrote in message
...
As I posted in an earlier thread, this is daft. I understand the need
to
roll-out the system gradually, as has been the case with oyster season
tickets,
in order to deal with bugs as they arise. But they should not
introduce
pre-pay until the system is ready for full implementation. I don't
see
much
point in buying a pre-pay with this 'interim' system.



I think they should forget capping for now, and let you load one-day
and weekend LT cards and travelcards onto your oystercard.

Oystercard 'price capping' not being introduced at fares revision
 

In message , Chris
writes
Having just attended pre-pay and smartcard training,I can confirm that
price capping will not be available due to a problem with the software.
So all customers that intend to make multiple journeys on LUL after Jan 4th
should be advised to buy 1day travelcards.
The full rollout of oyster will not be complete until Feb 28th nee march.


Can anyone confirm what I would end up paying (via Oyster prepay) in the
following cases from Jan the 4th and also once they get the software
problems sorted. I only make these journeys 2 or 3 times a week so a
weekly travel card is no good for me. At present I buy a daily LT Card
for 11.70 GBP

I have had a look at the website which tells me nothing as there are no
prices on there for zones 6 A-D and I have never had less then 12 people
ahead of me on the Oyster phone line so this group seems to be the best
way of getting reliable info.

1.Amersham to Oxford Circus (weekday morning peak) via Chiltern line to
Marylebone then Bakerloo line to Oxford Circus, bearing in mind that
there is no entrance to Marylebone underground at present so I would
enter the Bakerloo line at Baker St.

2.Amersham to Oxford Circus (weekday morning peak) via Met/Bakerloo line
(Would this be a single fare of 5.50 GBP?).

3.Return via either of these 2 routes in the evening (Weekday).

4. same return journey on both Saturday and Sunday which at present
costs me 10 GBP for a weekend travel card.

Thanks.
Dave
--
Dave B

Oystercard 'price capping' not being introduced at fares revision
 

In message , daveb
writes
In message , Chris
writes
Having just attended pre-pay and smartcard training,I can confirm that
price capping will not be available due to a problem with the software.
So all customers that intend to make multiple journeys on LUL after Jan 4th
should be advised to buy 1day travelcards.
The full rollout of oyster will not be complete until Feb 28th nee march.


Can anyone confirm what I would end up paying (via Oyster prepay) in the
following cases from Jan the 4th and also once they get the software
problems sorted. I only make these journeys 2 or 3 times a week so a
weekly travel card is no good for me. At present I buy a daily LT Card
for 11.70 GBP

I have had a look at the website which tells me nothing as there are no
prices on there for zones 6 A-D and I have never had less then 12
people ahead of me on the Oyster phone line so this group seems to be
the best way of getting reliable info.

1.Amersham to Oxford Circus (weekday morning peak) via Chiltern line to
Marylebone then Bakerloo line to Oxford Circus, bearing in mind that
there is no entrance to Marylebone underground at present so I would
enter the Bakerloo line at Baker St.

2.Amersham to Oxford Circus (weekday morning peak) via Met/Bakerloo
line (Would this be a single fare of 5.50 GBP?).

3.Return via either of these 2 routes in the evening (Weekday).

4. same return journey on both Saturday and Sunday which at present
costs me 10 GBP for a weekend travel card.


The new booklet, Fares For 2004, doesn't mention A - D either but
according to my initial information the single fare on Pre Pay (i.e..
the maximum from A - D) would be £5.50
--
Kat Reality is the leading cause of stress among those in touch with it.

Oystercard 'price capping' not being introduced at fares revision
 

In message , Kat
writes
The new booklet, Fares For 2004, doesn't mention A - D either but
according to my initial information the single fare on Pre Pay (i.e..
the maximum from A - D) would be £5.50

That's fine if I take the Met line route both ways, but what about the
Chiltern line option. Will I get charged 5.50 GBP for the Amersham to
Marylebone section and then another zone 1 single fare 1.60 GBP for
Baker St to Oxford Circus? Is the software clever enough (or will it
ever be) to know that it is a continuation of a journey and not a
separate journey?
I will be passing through barriers at 4 different stations. Even after
all the threads on here over the last few weeks I still don't know for
sure how much my card will be deducted on Jan 5th. I am guessing 11 GBP
if sticking to LUL and suspect 14.40 GBP via Chiltern which will mean an
extra 3 quid a day (almost).

Also do you have any info on what the prepay fare for the above journey
is likely to be for both Saturday and Sunday combined? It seems to be a
state secret that must not be released to the public under any
circumstance. I can not find the answer from any of the Oyster handouts
or various websites fares PDF's etc.

Cheers
Dave
--
Dave B

Oystercard 'price capping' not being introduced at fares revision
 

"Chris" wrote in message
...
Having just attended pre-pay and smartcard training,I can confirm that
price capping will not be available due to a problem with the software.
So all customers that intend to make multiple journeys on LUL after Jan
4th
should be advised to buy 1day travelcards.
The full rollout of oyster will not be complete until Feb 28th nee march.

TC 50/2003 quotes "Summer 2004". Management were given quite a bit of stick
regarding the lack of capping from 4th January 2004. Stay tuned for further
news that everyone who has already "purchased" an oystercard is going to be
contacted to let them know that it'll only be useful if you do 1 or 2
journeys and for them not to use it as a 1 day travelcard until advised
otherwise. There should be some senior managers out and about the first week
who no-doubt, be pointed out by the station staff for customers to rant at
about it!

Oystercard 'price capping' not being introduced at fares revision
 

In message , daveb
writes
In message , Kat
writes
The new booklet, Fares For 2004, doesn't mention A - D either but
according to my initial information the single fare on Pre Pay (i.e..
the maximum from A - D) would be £5.50

That's fine if I take the Met line route both ways, but what about the
Chiltern line option. Will I get charged 5.50 GBP for the Amersham to
Marylebone section and then another zone 1 single fare 1.60 GBP for
Baker St to Oxford Circus? Is the software clever enough (or will it
ever be) to know that it is a continuation of a journey and not a
separate journey?
I will be passing through barriers at 4 different stations. Even after
all the threads on here over the last few weeks I still don't know for
sure how much my card will be deducted on Jan 5th. I am guessing 11 GBP
if sticking to LUL and suspect 14.40 GBP via Chiltern which will mean
an extra 3 quid a day (almost).

I have Marylebone - Baker Street shown as an Out of Station
Interchange so you shouldn't be charged extra.

Also do you have any info on what the prepay fare for the above journey
is likely to be for both Saturday and Sunday combined? It seems to be a
state secret that must not be released to the public under any
circumstance. I can not find the answer from any of the Oyster handouts
or various websites fares PDF's etc.

I can't tell you exactly but there appears to be a reduction for single
fares at weekends and public holidays on Pre Pay but as I said the new
booklet doesn't specifically mention A - D

£3.80 (1 - 6 Weekdays)
£3.70 (1 - 6 Weekdays on Pre- Pay)
£1.80 (Weekend and Public Holidays on Pre Pay)

(I've looked at this several times to check I've got it right; it seems
like a big reduction)
--
Kat Reality is the leading cause of stress among those in touch with it.

Oystercard 'price capping' not being introduced at fares revision
 

In article ,
(Robin Mayes) wrote:

"Chris" wrote in message
...
Having just attended pre-pay and smartcard training,I can confirm
that price capping will not be available due to a problem with the
software. So all customers that intend to make multiple journeys on
LUL after Jan 4th should be advised to buy 1day travelcards.
The full rollout of oyster will not be complete until Feb 28th nee
march.

TC 50/2003 quotes "Summer 2004". Management were given quite a bit of
stick regarding the lack of capping from 4th January 2004. Stay tuned
for further news that everyone who has already "purchased" an oystercard
is going to be contacted to let them know that it'll only be useful if
you do 1 or 2 journeys and for them not to use it as a 1 day travelcard
until advised otherwise. There should be some senior managers out and
about the first week who no-doubt, be pointed out by the station staff
for customers to rant at about it!

Capping was still being advertised on a platform ad at St James's Park on
friday night.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Oystercard 'price capping' not being introduced at fares revision
 

"Colin Rosenstiel" wrote in message
...

Capping was still being advertised on a platform ad at St James's Park on
friday night.

Cheers!

Oystercard 'price capping' not being introduced at fares revision
 

In message , Kat
writes
In message , daveb
writes
In message , Kat
writes
The new booklet, Fares For 2004, doesn't mention A - D either but
according to my initial information the single fare on Pre Pay (i.e..
maximum from A - D) would be £5.50

That's fine if I take the Met line route both ways, but what about the
Chiltern line option. Will I get charged 5.50 GBP for the Amersham to
Marylebone section and then another zone 1 single fare 1.60 GBP for
Baker St to Oxford Circus? Is the software clever enough (or will it
ever be) to know that it is a continuation of a journey and not a
separate journey?
I will be passing through barriers at 4 different stations. Even after
all the threads on here over the last few weeks I still don't know for
sure how much my card will be deducted on Jan 5th. I am guessing 11
GBP if sticking to LUL and suspect 14.40 GBP via Chiltern which will
mean an extra 3 quid a day (almost).

I have Marylebone - Baker Street shown as an Out of Station
Interchange so you shouldn't be charged extra.

Also do you have any info on what the prepay fare for the above
journey is likely to be for both Saturday and Sunday combined? It
seems to be a state secret that must not be released to the public
under any circumstance. I can not find the answer from any of the
Oyster handouts or various websites fares PDF's etc.

I can't tell you exactly but there appears to be a reduction for single
fares at weekends and public holidays on Pre Pay but as I said the new
booklet doesn't specifically mention A - D

£3.80 (1 - 6 Weekdays)
£3.70 (1 - 6 Weekdays on Pre- Pay)
£1.80 (Weekend and Public Holidays on Pre Pay)

(I've looked at this several times to check I've got it right; it seems
like a big reduction)


OK Thanks for that.
I will post here in Jan the actual amount that was deducted from my card
for the various journey's from zone 6D.

Dave
--
Dave B

Oystercard 'price capping' not being introduced at fares revision
 

On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:50:42 +0000, Kat
wrote:

I can't tell you exactly but there appears to be a reduction for single
fares at weekends and public holidays on Pre Pay but as I said the new
booklet doesn't specifically mention A - D

£3.80 (1 - 6 Weekdays)
£3.70 (1 - 6 Weekdays on Pre- Pay)
£1.80 (Weekend and Public Holidays on Pre Pay)

(I've looked at this several times to check I've got it right; it seems
like a big reduction)

It's a massive reduction and correct. Saturday, Sunday and public
holiday Oyster singles will be:
£1.60 for zone 1 only
£1.80 for any/all zones WITH zone 1
£1.00 for any/all zones WITHOUT zone 1.

See PDF page 8-9 or Booklet page 17-18:
http://www.transportforlondon.gov.uk...2004-fares.pdf


Cheers,

Jason.