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On the "Main Line" trains are usually referred to as going "up" or "down" by
the staff. However, it seems that, even "London Transport" refer to
Underground lines by their geographic direction; it's not just the public
signs that say "Northbound" etc. Is that correct? Did they ever use
up/down? I've seen it suggested that the reason for using "Southbound"
etc. is related to the American involvement in the building of some of the
tube lines; comments?

Help!


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On Sep 27, 5:35*pm, "Graham Harrison"
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On the "Main Line" trains are usually referred to as going "up" or "down" by
the staff. * However, it seems that, even "London Transport" refer to
Underground lines by their geographic direction; it's not just the public
signs that say "Northbound" etc. * Is that correct? * Did they ever use
up/down? * I've seen it suggested that the reason for using "Southbound"
etc. is related to the American involvement in the building of some of the
tube lines; comments?

Help!


I make it a practice to always take an "up" train from Berwick-upon-
Tweed

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On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 23:35:24 +0100, "Graham Harrison"
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On the "Main Line" trains are usually referred to as going "up" or "down" by
the staff. However, it seems that, even "London Transport" refer to
Underground lines by their geographic direction;

First, try defining up/down on the Circle Line.

it's not just the public
signs that say "Northbound" etc. Is that correct? Did they ever use
up/down? I've seen it suggested that the reason for using "Southbound"
etc. is related to the American involvement in the building of some of the
tube lines; comments?

Help!


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On 2010\09\28 02:28, Charles Ellson wrote:
On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 23:35:24 +0100, "Graham Harrison"
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On the "Main Line" trains are usually referred to as going "up" or "down" by
the staff. However, it seems that, even "London Transport" refer to
Underground lines by their geographic direction;

First, try defining up/down on the Circle Line.


Try defining north/south/east/west on the Circle Line. ;-)
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On Sep 28, 2:52*am, Basil Jet wrote:

Underground lines by their geographic direction;


First, try defining up/down on the Circle Line.


Try defining north/south/east/west on the Circle Line. ;-)


We don't for internal use.

We use 'inner' and 'outer'

When you do track acusotmoised etc courses they tell you 2 acronyms
WIND and OUSE where rule specifics apply to one direction or the
other.

WIND = westbound inner northbound down

OUSE = outer up southbound eastbound

None of this helps customers of course.

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On Sep 28, 5:30*am, D7666 wrote:
On Sep 28, 2:52*am, Basil Jet wrote:

Underground lines by their geographic direction;


First, try defining up/down on the Circle Line.


Try defining north/south/east/west on the Circle Line. ;-)


We don't for internal use.

We use 'inner' and 'outer'

When you do track acusotmoised etc courses they tell you 2 acronyms
WIND and OUSE where rule specifics apply to one direction or the
other.

WIND = westbound inner northbound down

OUSE = outer up southbound eastbound

None of this helps customers of course.


Out if idle curiosity, at what point on the Heathrow loop does
westbound become eastbound? Was there a change with the opening of
terminal 5? Also, is the direction maintained for the length of a
whole line, or do they change with geography? On the Jubilee line,
for example, from a compass perspective, what is northbound in the
east is southbound in the west for the same "logical" direction.

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On 28 Sep, 07:14, bob wrote:

Out if idle curiosity, at what point on the Heathrow loop does
westbound become eastbound?


Since the loop is unidirectional, surely at entry trains cease being
westbound, and at exit become eastbound? It's single track, so you
would not need to distinguish it from an adjacent one, would you? I'm
only guessing here.



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"Graham Harrison" wrote:

On the "Main Line" trains are usually referred to as going "up" or "down" by
the staff. However, it seems that, even "London Transport" refer to
Underground lines by their geographic direction; it's not just the public
signs that say "Northbound" etc. Is that correct? Did they ever use
up/down? I've seen it suggested that the reason for using "Southbound"
etc. is related to the American involvement in the building of some of the
tube lines; comments?


The main line use of up/down is not applicable to the UndergrounD so the
geographic system is more appropriate. I believe such useage predates Yerkes
involvement.

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There's also the problem of deciding where in central London the
southbound line say would change from being 'up' (which is normally
but not always TO London) to 'down' - away from London.

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On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 18:12:19 -0700 (PDT), "
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On Sep 27, 5:35*pm, "Graham Harrison"
wrote:
On the "Main Line" trains are usually referred to as going "up" or "down" by
the staff. * However, it seems that, even "London Transport" refer to
Underground lines by their geographic direction; it's not just the public
signs that say "Northbound" etc. * Is that correct? * Did they ever use
up/down? * I've seen it suggested that the reason for using "Southbound"
etc. is related to the American involvement in the building of some of the
tube lines; comments?

Help!


I make it a practice to always take an "up" train from Berwick-upon-
Tweed

To where?

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Frank Erskine


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