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New M6 Toll road opens,road for fools ?
I totally agree! on TalkRadio this morning there was a debate about this new
toll road and most callers supported it! I thought you bunch of morons! Only a small amount of the road tax we pay gets spent on the roads, the rest is stolen and wasted by other government departments. There lies the ****ing problem! why on earth anybody thinks we should have to pay an extra tax to use a new road that should ALREADY be funded by our road tax I do not know. "tarquinlinbin" wrote in message ... http://www.m6toll.co.uk/ The new Midlands M6 toll road has opened. Inevitably the great British gullible public will happliy pour onto it and pay their fees (twice). I say dont use it and prove to government what a folly this is. Sure there will be pain if you continue to use the "public" M6 but its a no pain no gain situation. Who gave the Government and the private company the right to cut another swathe through the English countryside?. I am a freeman of this country and no one asked me,did they ask you?. The current toll fees are loss leaders becuase the Government and the private comany know that this is very much an experiment,an experimnet to see if the British mugs really will bite. As soon as they feel its safe to do so,they;ll crank the tolls up and wind down on investment/maintenance of the "public" M6. You the motorist already pay enough in tax,dont be so foolish as to let them fleece you again!. If you do then you will be setting a precedent for univeraal tolling AND road tax AND fuel tax The British are their own worst enemy,it takes an age to rouse them to action and by the time they do,its way too late. |
New M6 Toll road opens,road for fools ?
Diversity Isn't A Codeword For Anti-White wrote:
I totally agree! on TalkRadio this morning there was a debate about this new toll road and most callers supported it! I thought you bunch of morons! Only a small amount of the road tax we pay gets spent on the roads, the rest is stolen and wasted by other government departments. There lies the ****ing problem! why on earth anybody thinks we should have to pay an extra tax to use a new road that should ALREADY be funded by our road tax I do not know. I suppose you advocate everyone ****ting in the garden because the local water authority isn't spending enough on the sewers? -- MrBitsy |
New M6 Toll road opens,road for fools ?
"MrBitsy" wrote in message ... Diversity Isn't A Codeword For Anti-White wrote: I totally agree! on TalkRadio this morning there was a debate about this new toll road and most callers supported it! I thought you bunch of morons! Only a small amount of the road tax we pay gets spent on the roads, the rest is stolen and wasted by other government departments. There lies the ****ing problem! why on earth anybody thinks we should have to pay an extra tax to use a new road that should ALREADY be funded by our road tax I do not know. I suppose you advocate everyone ****ting in the garden because the local water authority isn't spending enough on the sewers? -- MrBitsy Why whats wrong with recycling our waste into fertiliser instead of letting some company make a profit from cleaning up our ****?, The Roads and the water are paid for by direct taxation, we should not be paying a pennt for toll roads and water is the fuel of life companies should notbe allowed to profit from it. |
New M6 Toll road opens,road for fools ?
On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:52:28 -0000, "MrBitsy"
wrote: Diversity Isn't A Codeword For Anti-White wrote: I totally agree! on TalkRadio this morning there was a debate about this new toll road and most callers supported it! I thought you bunch of morons! Only a small amount of the road tax we pay gets spent on the roads, the rest is stolen and wasted by other government departments. There lies the ****ing problem! why on earth anybody thinks we should have to pay an extra tax to use a new road that should ALREADY be funded by our road tax I do not know. I suppose you advocate everyone ****ting in the garden because the local water authority isn't spending enough on the sewers? And would you advocate widespread proliferation of road building,both private and public simply becuase the Government refuses to construct and facilitate integrated public transport systems but instead merely pays lip service because they know that as long as cars are on the road,they have a universal cash cow to milk. |
New M6 Toll road opens,road for fools ?
Twould probably be far better to trawl through the records of the Toll
Collecting company and to amuse oneself trying to spot the families/friends/representatives of senior political and administrative figures who are on the shareholders register......! At least thats the way it works over here in the Republic...! |
New M6 Toll road opens,road for fools ?
On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 13:37:47 +0000, Diversity Isn't A Codeword For
Anti-White wrote: I totally agree! on TalkRadio this morning there was a debate about this new toll road and most callers supported it! I thought you bunch of morons! Only a small amount of the road tax we pay gets spent on the roads, the rest is stolen and wasted by other government departments. There lies the ****ing problem! why on earth anybody thinks we should have to pay an extra tax to use a new road that should ALREADY be funded by our road tax I do not know. Plenty of people are happy (well- 'uncomplaining' might be a better word) about the dozens of prior examples of similar 'pay to drive' facilities: Severn Bridge x2 Humber Bridge Dartford crossings Mersey crossings etc None of which would have been built by the Government in power at the times, if private funding had not been around to build them. |
New M6 Toll road opens,road for fools ?
"Diversity Isn't A Codeword For Anti-White" wrote in message ... I totally agree! on TalkRadio this morning there was a debate about this new toll road and most callers supported it! I thought you bunch of morons! Only a small amount of the road tax we pay gets spent on the roads, the rest is stolen and wasted by other government departments. There lies the ****ing problem! why on earth anybody thinks we should have to pay an extra tax to use a new road that should ALREADY be funded by our road tax I do not know. I suppose you support the idea that the National Insurance contribution should only fund social security / pensions and the health service too? |
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New M6 Toll road opens,road for fools ?
"tarquinlinbin" wrote in message
... On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:52:28 -0000, "MrBitsy" wrote: Diversity Isn't A Codeword For Anti-White wrote: I totally agree! on TalkRadio this morning there was a debate about this new toll road and most callers supported it! I thought you bunch of morons! Only a small amount of the road tax we pay gets spent on the roads, the rest is stolen and wasted by other government departments. There lies the ****ing problem! why on earth anybody thinks we should have to pay an extra tax to use a new road that should ALREADY be funded by our road tax I do not know. I suppose you advocate everyone ****ting in the garden because the local water authority isn't spending enough on the sewers? And would you advocate widespread proliferation of road building,both private and public simply becuase the Government refuses to construct and facilitate integrated public transport systems but instead merely pays lip service because they know that as long as cars are on the road,they have a universal cash cow to milk. If the govt didn't steal so much of our road tax money and local councils weren't so obsessed with purposely causing congestion we'd have perfect roads and wouldn't need to build any new ones. |
New M6 Toll road opens,road for fools ?
"MrBitsy" wrote in message
... Diversity Isn't A Codeword For Anti-White wrote: I totally agree! on TalkRadio this morning there was a debate about this new toll road and most callers supported it! I thought you bunch of morons! Only a small amount of the road tax we pay gets spent on the roads, the rest is stolen and wasted by other government departments. There lies the ****ing problem! why on earth anybody thinks we should have to pay an extra tax to use a new road that should ALREADY be funded by our road tax I do not know. I suppose you advocate everyone ****ting in the garden because the local water authority isn't spending enough on the sewers? eh? you really must be very thick, only a small percentage of our road tax is spent on roads and then they want us to pay extra to travel on certain roads, where is the logic in that you total moron? if you had a brain you'd realise the obvious answer is that more of our road tax should be spent on the roads, not stolen/wasted elsewhere. |
New M6 Toll road opens,road for fools ?
On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 15:23:54 GMT, Diversity Isn't A Codeword For
Anti-White wrote: "tarquinlinbin" wrote in message ... On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:52:28 -0000, "MrBitsy" wrote: Diversity Isn't A Codeword For Anti-White wrote: I totally agree! on TalkRadio this morning there was a debate about this new toll road and most callers supported it! I thought you bunch of morons! Only a small amount of the road tax we pay gets spent on the roads, the rest is stolen and wasted by other government departments. There lies the ****ing problem! why on earth anybody thinks we should have to pay an extra tax to use a new road that should ALREADY be funded by our road tax I do not know. I suppose you advocate everyone ****ting in the garden because the local water authority isn't spending enough on the sewers? And would you advocate widespread proliferation of road building,both private and public simply becuase the Government refuses to construct and facilitate integrated public transport systems but instead merely pays lip service because they know that as long as cars are on the road,they have a universal cash cow to milk. If the govt didn't steal so much of our road tax money and local councils weren't so obsessed with purposely causing congestion we'd have perfect roads and wouldn't need to build any new ones. Ah, tunnel vision is a wonderful means to avoid the realities of life..... |
New M6 Toll road opens,road for fools ?
On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 15:25:31 GMT, Diversity Isn't A Codeword For
Anti-White wrote: "MrBitsy" wrote in message ... Diversity Isn't A Codeword For Anti-White wrote: I totally agree! on TalkRadio this morning there was a debate about this new toll road and most callers supported it! I thought you bunch of morons! Only a small amount of the road tax we pay gets spent on the roads, the rest is stolen and wasted by other government departments. There lies the ****ing problem! why on earth anybody thinks we should have to pay an extra tax to use a new road that should ALREADY be funded by our road tax I do not know. I suppose you advocate everyone ****ting in the garden because the local water authority isn't spending enough on the sewers? eh? you really must be very thick, only a small percentage of our road tax is spent on roads and then they want us to pay extra to travel on certain roads, where is the logic in that you total moron? if you had a brain you'd realise the obvious answer is that more of our road tax should be spent on the roads, not stolen/wasted elsewhere. And cut back on the NHS, and teaching and the welfare state and the police, and ..... |
New M6 Toll road opens,road for fools ?
On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 15:23:54 GMT, "Diversity Isn't A Codeword For
Anti-White" wrote: If the govt didn't steal so much of our road tax money and local councils weren't so obsessed with purposely causing congestion we'd have perfect roads and wouldn't need to build any new ones. I agree with you but it isnt in their interests to invest in public transport. Government needs cars on the road to keep the tax rolling in,local authorities are happy to leave the cars on the road and not invest in public transport because they have more important matters to finance such as Bengali transaltors,outreach workers and fairness co-ordinators. I kid you not,the fairness co-ordinators job recently appeared in the Manchester Evening News and was sought by Bolton Metro Council. |
New M6 Toll road opens,road for fools ?
On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 14:17:13 +0000, Take a Walk
wrote: On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 13:37:47 +0000, Diversity Isn't A Codeword For Anti-White wrote: I totally agree! on TalkRadio this morning there was a debate about this new toll road and most callers supported it! I thought you bunch of morons! Only a small amount of the road tax we pay gets spent on the roads, the rest is stolen and wasted by other government departments. There lies the ****ing problem! why on earth anybody thinks we should have to pay an extra tax to use a new road that should ALREADY be funded by our road tax I do not know. Plenty of people are happy (well- 'uncomplaining' might be a better word) about the dozens of prior examples of similar 'pay to drive' facilities: Severn Bridge x2 Humber Bridge Dartford crossings Mersey crossings etc None of which would have been built by the Government in power at the times, if private funding had not been around to build them. Whether they are "happy" or just tolerant is another issue. These schemes are different in that they are crossings of some kind,i.e short lengths,not entire motorways,and they are in place of something which often wasnt there before i.e we need to cross a river,lets build a bridge or tunnel. There already is an M6 motorway,we dont need another,we just need government to maintain the existing one. They wont do this becuase they want to take OUR tax and yet let a private initiative tear up OUR country to make profit for THEMSELVES ,not the people. |
New M6 Toll road opens,road for fools ?
"Take a Walk" wrote in message ... On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 13:37:47 +0000, Diversity Isn't A Codeword For Anti-White wrote: I totally agree! on TalkRadio this morning there was a debate about this new toll road and most callers supported it! I thought you bunch of morons! Only a small amount of the road tax we pay gets spent on the roads, the rest is stolen and wasted by other government departments. There lies the ****ing problem! why on earth anybody thinks we should have to pay an extra tax to use a new road that should ALREADY be funded by our road tax I do not know. Plenty of people are happy (well- 'uncomplaining' might be a better word) about the dozens of prior examples of similar 'pay to drive' facilities: Severn Bridge x2 Humber Bridge Dartford crossings Mersey crossings etc None of which would have been built by the Government in power at the times, if private funding had not been around to build them. Quite right about the private funding bit of building bridges, however I seem to remember that when the Dartford Crossing was built the toll was eventually meant to be phased out. That was 2 years ago. Funny that at the time the gov. done a survey and said that if the tolls were phased out, more people would use the crossing thereby causing more hold-ups! I don't suppose for an instant it the fact that the crossing generates approx. 50 million per annum. And they've obviously never been there most mornings from 6-8 or afternoons between 2.30-6. As for complaining, I think everybody has complained at one time or another regarding the fact that a toll crossing exists in the middle of one of Britain's busiest motorways. So why should we the general public pay to use a road that has already paid for from taxes of one kind or another? After all if my costs increase to move goods from AtoB, who do you think I pass that cost on to? |
New M6 Toll road opens,road for fools ?
"Robin Mayes" wrote in message .. . "Diversity Isn't A Codeword For Anti-White" wrote in message ... I totally agree! on TalkRadio this morning there was a debate about this new toll road and most callers supported it! I thought you bunch of morons! Only a small amount of the road tax we pay gets spent on the roads, the rest is stolen and wasted by other government departments. There lies the ****ing problem! why on earth anybody thinks we should have to pay an extra tax to use a new road that should ALREADY be funded by our road tax I do not know. I suppose you support the idea that the National Insurance contribution should only fund social security / pensions and the health service too? By logical extension why should any of my taxes go on educating other people kids? |
New M6 Toll road opens,road for fools ?
Quite right about the private funding bit of building bridges, however I
seem to remember that when the Dartford Crossing was built the toll was eventually meant to be phased out. I would expect less congestion on the crossing if everyone didn't have to queue for the toll! It was due to disappear next year. and indeed it will. To be replaced with another toll, exactly the same price the next day. |
New M6 Toll road opens,road for fools ?
"Wanderer" wrote in message
... On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 15:23:54 GMT, Diversity Isn't A Codeword For Anti-White wrote: "tarquinlinbin" wrote in message ... On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:52:28 -0000, "MrBitsy" wrote: Diversity Isn't A Codeword For Anti-White wrote: I totally agree! on TalkRadio this morning there was a debate about this new toll road and most callers supported it! I thought you bunch of morons! Only a small amount of the road tax we pay gets spent on the roads, the rest is stolen and wasted by other government departments. There lies the ****ing problem! why on earth anybody thinks we should have to pay an extra tax to use a new road that should ALREADY be funded by our road tax I do not know. I suppose you advocate everyone ****ting in the garden because the local water authority isn't spending enough on the sewers? And would you advocate widespread proliferation of road building,both private and public simply becuase the Government refuses to construct and facilitate integrated public transport systems but instead merely pays lip service because they know that as long as cars are on the road,they have a universal cash cow to milk. If the govt didn't steal so much of our road tax money and local councils weren't so obsessed with purposely causing congestion we'd have perfect roads and wouldn't need to build any new ones. Ah, tunnel vision is a wonderful means to avoid the realities of life..... what country are you living in whereby local councils do not purposely create congestion, because they certainly do in London. And are you also denying the govt doesn't steal a large percentage of road tax that it uses on non-road issues? tunnel vision and non-reality, looks like you suffer both, you maroon. |
New M6 Toll road opens,road for fools ?
"Take a Walk" wrote in message
... On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 13:37:47 +0000, Diversity Isn't A Codeword For Anti-White wrote: I totally agree! on TalkRadio this morning there was a debate about this new toll road and most callers supported it! I thought you bunch of morons! Only a small amount of the road tax we pay gets spent on the roads, the rest is stolen and wasted by other government departments. There lies the ****ing problem! why on earth anybody thinks we should have to pay an extra tax to use a new road that should ALREADY be funded by our road tax I do not know. Plenty of people are happy (well- 'uncomplaining' might be a better word) about the dozens of prior examples of similar 'pay to drive' facilities: Severn Bridge x2 Humber Bridge Dartford crossings Mersey crossings etc None of which would have been built by the Government in power at the times, if private funding had not been around to build them. if the govt spent road tax money on these projects(ie.road-issues) which it could easily afford to do and gasp isn't it actually meant to? no private funding would be needed. |
New M6 Toll road opens,road for fools ?
what country are you living in whereby local councils do not purposely create congestion, because they certainly do in London. And are you also denying the govt doesn't steal a large percentage of road tax that it uses on non-road issues? tunnel vision and non-reality, looks like you suffer both, you maroon. Yup they have done it deliberatly round here, created congestion spots at certain junctions and choke points, reset traffic lights to favour empty feeder roads against roads that have the traffic etc. |
New M6 Toll road opens,road for fools ?
On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 15:25:46 +0000, Wanderer wrote:
If the govt didn't steal so much of our road tax money and local councils weren't so obsessed with purposely causing congestion we'd have perfect roads and wouldn't need to build any new ones. Ah, tunnel vision is a wonderful means to avoid the realities of life..... Is there a toll on tunnel vision? ;-) |
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Cast_Iron wrote:
By logical extension why should any of my taxes go on educating other people kids? Think of it more as paying retrospectively for your own education. D'you feel you got your money's worth? |
New M6 Toll road opens,road for fools ?
And cut back on the NHS, and teaching and the welfare state
and the police, and ..... What difference would it make? Labour have supposedly spent billions extra on the NHS in the last few years, no improvement. Eliminate the waste, the thousands of unnecessary admin staff - and spend the savings on new roads. Besides, the recently announce widening of 25 miles of the M1 is costing the same as the M6 Toll road cost to build. Why the government constantly fritters its money away on widening existing roads rather than building new ones is beyond me. |
New M6 Toll road opens,road for fools ?
It was due to disappear next year. and indeed it will. To be replaced
with another toll, exactly the same price the next day. It has already happened, in fact. There is now a cheaper rate between 10pm and 6am, to encourage traffic to use it during the off peak hours. But yes, it was supposed to be scrapped completely. |
New M6 Toll road opens,road for fools ?
"Diversity Isn't A Codeword For Anti-White"
wrote in message ... I totally agree! on TalkRadio this morning there was a debate about this new toll road and most callers supported it! I thought you bunch of morons! Only a small amount of the road tax we pay gets spent on the roads, the rest is stolen and wasted by other government departments. There lies the ****ing problem! why on earth anybody thinks we should have to pay an extra tax to use a new road that should ALREADY be funded by our road tax I do not know. But it hasn't been funded by road tax. It has been funded privately, and ultimately by the people who use it. What is wrong with the user pays principle? "tarquinlinbin" wrote in message ... http://www.m6toll.co.uk/ The new Midlands M6 toll road has opened. Inevitably the great British gullible public will happliy pour onto it and pay their fees (twice). I say dont use it and prove to government what a folly this is. Sure there will be pain if you continue to use the "public" M6 but its a no pain no gain situation. Who gave the Government and the private company the right to cut another swathe through the English countryside?. I am a freeman of this country and no one asked me,did they ask you?. The current toll fees are loss leaders becuase the Government and the private comany know that this is very much an experiment,an experimnet to see if the British mugs really will bite. As soon as they feel its safe to do so,they;ll crank the tolls up and wind down on investment/maintenance of the "public" M6. You the motorist already pay enough in tax,dont be so foolish as to let them fleece you again!. If you do then you will be setting a precedent for univeraal tolling AND road tax AND fuel tax The British are their own worst enemy,it takes an age to rouse them to action and by the time they do,its way too late. |
New M6 Toll road opens,road for fools ?
But it hasn't been funded by road tax. It has been funded privately,
and ultimately by the people who use it. What is wrong with the user pays principle? That's fine. However, it doesn't change the fact that the government should still build a publicly-funded alternative to the M6 - we shouldn't be in the situation where congestion is so bad that we have to use a private pay-extra option. It's like giving up on the NHS and telling everyone to get private health care. And if that's the route they want to take, then they can damn well abolish road tax. |
New M6 Toll road opens,road for fools ?
"Chris Jones" wrote in message ... But it hasn't been funded by road tax. It has been funded privately, and ultimately by the people who use it. What is wrong with the user pays principle? That's fine. However, it doesn't change the fact that the government should still build a publicly-funded alternative to the M6 - we shouldn't be in the situation where congestion is so bad that we have to use a private pay-extra option. It's like giving up on the NHS and telling everyone to get private health care. And if that's the route they want to take, then they can damn well abolish road tax. The thing is, if you build the M6 bypass from general taxation, then you are effectively subsidising those who use it. You might argue that motorists at large will pay for it, and motorists at large will benefit from it, but in reality it is only a small group of people who will benefit from it, yet if it were paid for through general taxation, a large group of people would be paying for it. The Government should not be subsidising things that bring a high benefit (and have a high cost) to a small number of people. Besides, if it weren't going to be a toll road, it would fill up with traffic and be no better than the normal M6, and we would be back to square one despite having spent £900 million. |
New M6 Toll road opens,road for fools ?
Chris Jones wrote:
And cut back on the NHS, and teaching and the welfare state and the police, and ..... What difference would it make? Labour have supposedly spent billions extra on the NHS in the last few years, no improvement. Eliminate the waste, the thousands of unnecessary admin staff - and spend the savings on new roads. Who says there are thousands of unnecessary admin staff ? |
New M6 Toll road opens,road for fools ?
The thing is, if you build the M6 bypass from general taxation, then you
are effectively subsidising those who use it. You might argue that motorists at large will pay for it, and motorists at large will benefit from it, but in reality it is only a small group of people who will benefit from it, yet if it were paid for through general taxation, a large group of people would be paying for it. That's the whole point of the state paying for things. The point is that overall everyone gains equally. The BNRR in the Midlands, M25 widening in London, M74 in Scotland, etc. The Government should not be subsidising things that bring a high benefit (and have a high cost) to a small number of people. In that case we should adopt the American model of very low taxes but nothing provided by the state. Why should I be subsidising the NHS when I haven't used it in 10 years? Same argument. The answer being that I might need to use the NHS tomorrow, and you might need to use the M6 Toll tomorrow. It benefits everybody and the economy as a whole. If a lorry carrying goods from Felixstowe to Manchester gets stuck in M6 traffic jams for hours, businesses in Manchester lose out. It has a national impact. Besides, if it weren't going to be a toll road, it would fill up with traffic and be no better than the normal M6, and we would be back to square one despite having spent £900 million. It would fill up as-is, yes. What they should have done would be to build it with no local junctions - just access from the M6 and M42 at either end. That way, only long-distance traffic uses it, there are no new business parks or shopping centres built next to it, and it serves its purpose as a long-distance strategic route. |
New M6 Toll road opens,road for fools ?
"Chris Jones" wrote in message
... Besides, if it weren't going to be a toll road, it would fill up with traffic and be no better than the normal M6, and we would be back to square one despite having spent £900 million. It would fill up as-is, yes. What they should have done would be to build it with no local junctions - just access from the M6 and M42 at either end. That way, only long-distance traffic uses it, there are no new business parks or shopping centres built next to it, and it serves its purpose as a long-distance strategic route. Ideally, yes. But no-one (e.g. county council, etc) would allow that to go through their region without some benefit for local traffic to offset the impact of the new route, i.e. extra junctions. Same applies for new railways - look at the case of the CTRL domestic trains and Ebbsfleet as sweeteners for the line being built through Kent. Angus |
New M6 Toll road opens,road for fools ?
"Cast_Iron" wrote in message ... Chris Jones wrote: And cut back on the NHS, and teaching and the welfare state and the police, and ..... What difference would it make? Labour have supposedly spent billions extra on the NHS in the last few years, no improvement. Eliminate the waste, the thousands of unnecessary admin staff - and spend the savings on new roads. Who says there are thousands of unnecessary admin staff ? The RCN, The BMA for starters. |
New M6 Toll road opens,road for fools ?
"Cast_Iron" wrote in message
... Chris Jones wrote: And cut back on the NHS, and teaching and the welfare state and the police, and ..... What difference would it make? Labour have supposedly spent billions extra on the NHS in the last few years, no improvement. Eliminate the waste, the thousands of unnecessary admin staff - and spend the savings on new roads. Who says there are thousands of unnecessary admin staff ? anybody who works for the NHS. |
New M6 Toll road opens,road for fools ?
In message , The Rifleman
writes what country are you living in whereby local councils do not purposely create congestion, because they certainly do in London. And are you also denying the govt doesn't steal a large percentage of road tax that it uses on non-road issues? tunnel vision and non-reality, looks like you suffer both, you maroon. Yup they have done it deliberatly round here, created congestion spots at certain junctions and choke points, reset traffic lights to favour empty feeder roads against roads that have the traffic etc. For what purpose? -- Jonathan Bratt |
New M6 Toll road opens,road for fools ?
In message , Conor
writes People are complaining about the Humber Bridge. The people mainly using it are those going to Grimsby. People go *to* Grimsby? -- Jonathan Bratt |
New M6 Toll road opens,road for fools ?
In message , Diversity
Isn't A Codeword For Anti-White writes eh? you really must be very thick, only a small percentage of our road tax is spent on roads and then they want us to pay extra to travel on certain roads, where is the logic in that you total moron? if you had a brain you'd realise the obvious answer is that more of our road tax should be spent on the roads, not stolen/wasted elsewhere. Very interesting (though biased) the new relief road is entirely privately funded, you either choose to use it or you don't. -- Clive |
New M6 Toll road opens,road for fools ?
In message , Conor
writes Conor A whack off a day keeps the Viagra at bay. Hey Conor, that's a new tag line, better than the old repetition, keep it up;-) -- Clive |
New M6 Toll road opens,road for fools ?
In message , tarquinlinbin
writes There already is an M6 motorway,we dont need another, You've obviously not sat in the jams then. -- Clive |
New M6 Toll road opens,road for fools ?
In message , Mark Fry
writes After all if my costs increase to move goods from AtoB, who do you think I pass that cost on to? Try the railways. -- Clive |
New M6 Toll road opens,road for fools ?
In message , Chris Jones
writes It's like giving up on the NHS and telling everyone to get private health care. Don't most of the government already have private health care? -- Clive |
New M6 Toll road opens,road for fools ?
In message , Chris Jones
writes Same argument. The answer being that I might need to use the NHS tomorrow, And if you have a heart attack tomorrow and can't find your credit cards, are you prepared to pay the ultimate price and die for your principle? I think not. -- Clive |
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