"Mark Fry" wrote in message
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"Cast_Iron" wrote in message
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Disabled drivers can get a pass which allows free access to the toll
road
for three years. It costs a fiver for the admin.

http://www.m6toll.co.uk/pricing/exemptions.asp



Why should any disabled driver get free access, do they take up less
space
or create less pollution?

Some people resent others getting what they don't.



I don't begrudge anyone getting something that I can't, both of my parents
are registered disabled, but I don't understand the logic of it. How does
a
disable person cause either less pollution or less congestion?

What's pollution or congestion got to do with it? The toll is for providing
an alternative, quicker, route around Birmingham, nothing more. The
exemption for disabled drivers is a PR stunt. The logic being that disabled
drivers really_need_ their_cars.

Filling the new motorway with badly driven Micras will do wonders for
transit times.

Andy

Following up to Mark Fry

I don't begrudge anyone getting something that I can't, both of my parents
are registered disabled, but I don't understand the logic of it. How does a
disable person cause either less pollution or less congestion?

If you want to be totally logical, what has the M6 toll road got
to do with pollution? OAPs often get concessions, do they take up
less room?
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Following up to Andy Lord

The
exemption for disabled drivers is a PR stunt. The logic being that disabled
drivers really_need_ their_cars.

If it is, is it working? The coverage I have read doesn't mention
it.
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wrote:

"Mark Fry" wrote:

I don't begrudge anyone getting something that I can't, both of my
parents are registered disabled, but I don't understand the logic of
it. How does a disable person cause either less pollution or less
congestion?

What's pollution or congestion got to do with it? The toll is for
providing an alternative, quicker, route around Birmingham, nothing
more

....which is merely another way of saying that congestion has *everything* to
do with it.

The new route can only be quicker because of the congestion on the existing
route.

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On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:21:33 +0000, Silk wrote:

Chris wrote:

Cast_Iron wrote:

Disabled drivers can get a pass


I'd give my right arm for one of those.


No need. They'll accept a bit of a bad back.

If you're an OAP they hand them out no questions asked.


Only if the OAP is physically disabled.



But why should that be the case? As I said in my initial post, I can't
make
sense of the logic of disabled drivers free, everyone else pay.......



On a practical note, most disabled drivers are exempt from paying Vehicle
Excise Duty. Since the toll is, in effect, a replacement for VED for this
specific stretch of road and the road is considered to be part of the
national network, the same consideration is being extended so that disabled
drivers can enjoy the same convenience for the same price as they do now.

In order to get an M6 Toll pass one has to produce the certificate
confirming that one is exempt from VED.

From a more cynical perspective, it show the company in a good light as they
can be seen to be doing something for the disadvantaged without it costing
them anything.

In article , dontuse@fell-
walker.co.uk says...
Following up to MeatballTurbo

Siatica is one of those things that you are never cured of though. A
twist in the wrong direction, and the siatic nerve is back where it
shouldn't be, and bingo, walking wounded again.

I would assume an osteopath would be handy when it goes wrong?

Just some exercises setup by a physio, and 6 once a week appointments
with the physio to check progress/improvement.

Biggest thing here was I left it for about 4 months thinking "It'll go
away, just a pulled muscle". before I eventually got bullied into going
to the doctors.

Now, if I get a twinge (normally after working on the car, and crawling
on a cold floot, and twisting my self into a silly shape to get leverage
on a particularly stubborn nut or bolt), I start on the exercise and
stretching straight away, and start with Ibruprofen. And it sorts itself
out almost straight away, within a week at most.
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In article ,
says...
Pete Smith ) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying :

On a sort of related issue - my wife is now too pregnant to get out of
normal parking spaces - I've got to stop, let her out, and then move
in.

We went shopping last week, and it was a bit drizzly. Bearing in mind
her difficulties, we thought we'd try the Parent & Baby slots. None
left unsurprisingly. Of the 10 or so they had, only _one_ was obviously
a car with baby, having a car seat in it (not that that means much).
The rest had no sign of any baby occupancy.

Assuming you'd parked there, would your car have had any visible sign of
your wife being pregnant?


It actually would (in this instance) because we've put the baby seat in the
back, because there's no convenient place to store it in the house.

If we'd been in my car, the seat wouldn't have been in the back.

OTOH, I've watched people in the past, and it's actually _rare_ to see
someone pregnant or carrying a baby to stop in these slots. It's normally
lazy *******s who can't be bothered to walk an extra 10 feet.

Pete.

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In uk.transport, Pete Smith wrote:
OTOH, I've watched people in the past, and it's actually _rare_ to see
someone pregnant or carrying a baby to stop in these slots. It's normally
lazy *******s who can't be bothered to walk an extra 10 feet.

Also those who prefer a decent-sized parking space instead of the just-
too-small-for-comfort ones the rest of us put up with.

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following in:

In uk.transport, Pete Smith wrote:
OTOH, I've watched people in the past, and it's actually _rare_ to
see someone pregnant or carrying a baby to stop in these slots.
It's normally lazy *******s who can't be bothered to walk an extra
10 feet.

Also those who prefer a decent-sized parking space instead of the
just- too-small-for-comfort ones the rest of us put up with.

I've never known a supermarket car park where the areas further out
(although not much further out) from the shop aren't almost completely
empty. Park there if you want lots of space.

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Your and you're are different words!

In article ,
says...

It's extremely hard to get DLA. It's daunting to even start tackling
the forms.

I guess lorry drivers must be geniuses then (see other thread) as I had
no problem with the process. Then again my claim was geniune.



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