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From BBC website

A study into whether improved rail inks to Heathrow Airport would be viable
have found there to be a strong case for the scheme.
The investigation looked at whether trains could run directly to the new
Terminal Five from Surrey and Berkshire and London.

It found the service would provide significant economic advantages for
businesses and passengers.

Called AirTrack, the new rail link would take passengers straight to the
terminal from Reading, Guildford and Waterloo instead of them having to wait
for a connecting bus or train.

A predicted five million passengers would use AirTrack, according to the study,
of which a third would be travelling to and from Heathrow.

It would also encourage people to leave their cars at home.

The study predicts AirTrack would be up and running within 10 years as it would
use existing track and would only need a short length of new railway route.


The AirTrack scheme is being promoted by the AirTrack Forum, chaired by Surrey
County Council.

Other organisations in the group include British Airways, Transport for London,
the South East England Development Agency, the Highways Authority and business
groups from Surrey, Berkshire and Hampshire.

The study, by Atkins Rail and PriceWaterhouse Cooper, on behalf of the forum,
will now be submitted to the Strategic Rail Authority and the government.

George Burnett, Airtrack Forum chairman, said: "Congestion on the roads on the
approach to the airport and the surrounding areas is reaching unacceptable
levels daily.

"AirTrack is the solution to help alleviate these traffic problems and the
outline business case (the study) proves it to be a realistic and financially
viable business proposition."

Heathrow's Terminal Five was given the go-ahead in 2001 after a four-year
public inquiry.

It will be capable of handling 30 million passengers a year and is due to open
in 2008.



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"Matt" wrote in message
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From BBC website

A study into whether improved rail inks to Heathrow Airport would be viable
have found there to be a strong case for the scheme.
The investigation looked at whether trains could run directly to the new
Terminal Five from Surrey and Berkshire and London.


They've been the last 20 years thinking about this.
The last 'promise' was that it would be built as part of the extension
of Hex to T5, and is it?

It's dead simple to do (except for the tunnel into the airport)
and ought to have been done ages ago.

What really pees me off is that every single airport rail-link that the UK
has built has exceeded its traffic projections three-fold or more and yet
these 'planners' just don't learn.

So it will be 10 more (at least) years before we get it, I'll be nearly
retired by then so I'll have been almost the whole of my working
life waiting for it and when (if) it's there, I won't need it anymore.
They could build it in three if they tried hard.

Sorry for the rant, this subject really annoys me

tim


It found the service would provide significant economic advantages for
businesses and passengers.

Called AirTrack, the new rail link would take passengers straight to the
terminal from Reading, Guildford and Waterloo instead of them having to wait
for a connecting bus or train.

A predicted five million passengers would use AirTrack, according to the study,
of which a third would be travelling to and from Heathrow.

It would also encourage people to leave their cars at home.

The study predicts AirTrack would be up and running within 10 years as it would
use existing track and would only need a short length of new railway route.


The AirTrack scheme is being promoted by the AirTrack Forum, chaired by Surrey
County Council.

Other organisations in the group include British Airways, Transport for London,
the South East England Development Agency, the Highways Authority and business
groups from Surrey, Berkshire and Hampshire.

The study, by Atkins Rail and PriceWaterhouse Cooper, on behalf of the forum,
will now be submitted to the Strategic Rail Authority and the government.

George Burnett, Airtrack Forum chairman, said: "Congestion on the roads on the
approach to the airport and the surrounding areas is reaching unacceptable
levels daily.

"AirTrack is the solution to help alleviate these traffic problems and the
outline business case (the study) proves it to be a realistic and financially
viable business proposition."

Heathrow's Terminal Five was given the go-ahead in 2001 after a four-year
public inquiry.

It will be capable of handling 30 million passengers a year and is due to open
in 2008.



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tim wrote:

"Matt" wrote in message
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From BBC website

A study into whether improved rail inks to Heathrow Airport would be viable
have found there to be a strong case for the scheme.
The investigation looked at whether trains could run directly to the new
Terminal Five from Surrey and Berkshire and London.


They've been the last 20 years thinking about this.
The last 'promise' was that it would be built as part of the extension
of Hex to T5, and is it?

It's dead simple to do (except for the tunnel into the airport)
and ought to have been done ages ago.

What really pees me off is that every single airport rail-link that the UK
has built has exceeded its traffic projections three-fold or more and yet
these 'planners' just don't learn.

So it will be 10 more (at least) years before we get it, I'll be nearly
retired by then so I'll have been almost the whole of my working
life waiting for it and when (if) it's there, I won't need it anymore.
They could build it in three if they tried hard.

Sorry for the rant, this subject really annoys me

tim

It found the service would provide significant economic advantages for
businesses and passengers.

Called AirTrack, the new rail link would take passengers straight to the
terminal from Reading, Guildford and Waterloo instead of them having to wait
for a connecting bus or train.

A predicted five million passengers would use AirTrack, according to the study,
of which a third would be travelling to and from Heathrow.

It would also encourage people to leave their cars at home.

The study predicts AirTrack would be up and running within 10 years as it would
use existing track and would only need a short length of new railway route.


The AirTrack scheme is being promoted by the AirTrack Forum, chaired by Surrey
County Council.

Other organisations in the group include British Airways, Transport for London,
the South East England Development Agency, the Highways Authority and business
groups from Surrey, Berkshire and Hampshire.

The study, by Atkins Rail and PriceWaterhouse Cooper, on behalf of the forum,
will now be submitted to the Strategic Rail Authority and the government.

George Burnett, Airtrack Forum chairman, said: "Congestion on the roads on the
approach to the airport and the surrounding areas is reaching unacceptable
levels daily.

"AirTrack is the solution to help alleviate these traffic problems and the
outline business case (the study) proves it to be a realistic and financially
viable business proposition."

Heathrow's Terminal Five was given the go-ahead in 2001 after a four-year
public inquiry.

It will be capable of handling 30 million passengers a year and is due to open
in 2008.


There is quite a lot about this on Spelthorpe District Council Site
eg a Planning Brief at:

http://193.195.188.18/environment___...ng_latestnews/
env_planning_airtrackcorridor.htm

Jim Chisholm
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"Matt" wrote in message
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From BBC website

A study into whether improved rail inks to Heathrow Airport would be

viable
have found there to be a strong case for the scheme.
The investigation looked at whether trains could run directly to the new
Terminal Five from Surrey and Berkshire and London.

It found the service would provide significant economic advantages for
businesses and passengers.

Called AirTrack, the new rail link would take passengers straight to the
terminal from Reading, Guildford and Waterloo instead of them having to

wait
for a connecting bus or train.

A predicted five million passengers would use AirTrack, according to the

study,
of which a third would be travelling to and from Heathrow.

It would also encourage people to leave their cars at home.

The study predicts AirTrack would be up and running within 10 years as it

would
use existing track and would only need a short length of new railway

route.


The AirTrack scheme is being promoted by the AirTrack Forum, chaired by

Surrey
County Council.

Other organisations in the group include British Airways, Transport for

London,
the South East England Development Agency, the Highways Authority and

business
groups from Surrey, Berkshire and Hampshire.

The study, by Atkins Rail and PriceWaterhouse Cooper, on behalf of the

forum,
will now be submitted to the Strategic Rail Authority and the government.

George Burnett, Airtrack Forum chairman, said: "Congestion on the roads on

the
approach to the airport and the surrounding areas is reaching unacceptable
levels daily.

"AirTrack is the solution to help alleviate these traffic problems and the
outline business case (the study) proves it to be a realistic and

financially
viable business proposition."

Heathrow's Terminal Five was given the go-ahead in 2001 after a four-year
public inquiry.

It will be capable of handling 30 million passengers a year and is due to

open
in 2008.



Wouldn't it also require electrification of the line to Reading?


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Wouldn't it also require electrification of the line to Reading?


Airtrack links Heathrow to the Staines line, and the line from Staines to
Reading is already electrified.

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Oliver Keating wrote:

Wouldn't it also require electrification of the line to Reading?


It IS electrified to Reading. What do you think the 458s run on?
AirTrack uses the Waterloo line


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Oliver Keating wrote:

Wouldn't it also require electrification of the line to Reading?


No, the line from Waterloo to Reading is already electrified.


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