Thameslink programme to go ahead "in it's entirety"
 

On Nov 26, 4:08*pm, TimB wrote:

North of Ely you've got largely single track, four-car platforms, and
not enough power. It's unlikely to be IEP to Kings Lynn.

The project includes power upgrade.

To say unlikely is really quite wrong, it was hard in the IEP EMU
version for these to go to Kings Lynn, and one assumes that whatever
the final version of IEP or equivalent turns out to be then the
express EMU will go there.

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Nick

Thameslink programme to go ahead "in it's entirety"
 

In message , at 16:52:26 on
Fri, 26 Nov 2010, Mizter T remarked:

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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at 07:29:17 on Fri, 26 Nov 2010, 1506 remarked:

What sort of junction is there going to be, to the north of St Pancras
Low Level? Is it flat, or non-conflicting?

It's a dive-under I think.

Yes - it's a totally non-conflicting junction - from the north end of
the SPILL platforms you can actually see the track-less GN connection
tunnels snake off into the distance, all ready and waiting. (A quick
search failed to find a photo, but it's all there.)

I'm not sure all the tunnels are in place, but the parts which had to be
built contemporaneously with other works are there.

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Roland Perry

Thameslink programme to go ahead "in it's entirety"
 

On Nov 26, 3:22*pm, Jamie Thompson wrote:


I've been trying to find out what's planned for the 365s, to no avail
though.

Unlike FCC/TL 319s that are all deployed on current TL services that
remain TL services therefor get replaced by new stock, many FCC/GN
units (the majority in fact if you count 313s in the fleet totals) do
not work services that are intended to run over TL. There is no reason
to suppose 365s will be cascaded anywhere at this moment in time and
we probably won't know until the x-IEP EMU is known and confirmed for
the KL line.

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Nick

Thameslink programme to go ahead "in it's entirety"
 

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , at 16:52:26 on

I'm not sure all the tunnels are in place, but the parts which had to be
built contemporaneously with other works are there.

They were completed during 2004/5 or so, probably during the Thameslink
blockade? Anyone know for sure?

I read an online version of some civil engineering magazine a while back
that had reports/pics of the completed job. I'm pretty sure that the GN
end incline might also visible from passing trains, it's pretty obvious on
Google's aerial view anyway, which dates back to the time when MML were
using the interim station.

Paul S

Thameslink programme to go ahead "in it's entirety"
 

In article , (Roland
Perry) wrote:

In message , at
07:17:21 on Fri, 26 Nov 2010,
remarked:

Do keep up, Roland!

I'm trying to - by asking in here...

There's another group you frequent where this was done to death several
months ago.

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Colin Rosenstiel

Thameslink programme to go ahead "in it's entirety"
 

In article
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(TimB) wrote:

On Nov 26, 3:40*pm, Roland Perry wrote:
In message
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07:29:17 on Fri, 26 Nov 2010, 1506 remarked:

On Nov 26, 3:21*pm, "Ian Bidwell" wrote:

It may be that only the semi fast run on Thames link with the fasts
and slows still running into KX. The statement talks about services
to Herts and Cambs using TL but *no mention of Norfolk, so Kings
Lynn may no be included. There was also talk of using IEP stock to
Cambridge, so there should be spare 317s to redeploy yet again

If they put IEP onto the Cambridge fast services, but don't send them
through to Kings Lynn, maybe the timetable will have to use the
semi-fasts for that - but they are the ones suggested above for
Thameslink (less the Norfolk attribution). Surely they wouldn't
condemn Ely and Kings Lynn to an extension of the stoppers?

And the minister just said they don't like making people change
trains.

What sort of junction is there going to be, to the north of St
Pancras Low Level? *Is it flat, or non-conflicting?

It's a dive-under I think.

Indeed it is. Not at the GN end though, AIUI.

North of Ely you've got largely single track, four-car platforms, and
not enough power. It's unlikely to be IEP to Kings Lynn.

In fact the plan was for five-car half-IEPs which would run Kings Cross to
Kings Lynn. IEP is still on hold of course.

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Colin Rosenstiel

Thameslink programme to go ahead "in it's entirety"
 

On Nov 26, 5:49*pm, Roland Perry wrote:

In message , at 16:52:26 on
Fri, 26 Nov 2010, Mizter T remarked:

"Roland Perry" wrote:

In message
,
at 07:29:17 on Fri, 26 Nov 2010, 1506 remarked:

What sort of junction is there going to be, to the north of St Pancras
Low Level? *Is it flat, or non-conflicting?

It's a dive-under I think.

Yes - it's a totally non-conflicting junction - from the north end of
the SPILL platforms you can actually see the track-less GN connection
tunnels snake off into the distance, all ready and waiting. (A quick
search failed to find a photo, but it's all there.)

I'm not sure all the tunnels are in place, but the parts which had to be
built contemporaneously with other works are there.

They're all in place - it's not particularly obvious unless you're
looking for it, but it's possible to see the concrete trench that
leads to the tunnel portal from the GN lines north of King's Cross.

Thameslink programme to go ahead "in it's entirety"
 

On Nov 26, 6:33*pm, "Paul Scott"
wrote:

"Roland Perry" wrote:
I'm not sure all the tunnels are in place, but the parts which had to be
built contemporaneously with other works are there.

They were completed during 2004/5 or so, probably during the Thameslink
blockade? *Anyone know for sure?

I read an online version of some civil engineering magazine a while back
that had reports/pics of the completed job. * I'm pretty sure that the GN
end incline might also visible from passing trains, *it's pretty obvious on
Google's aerial view anyway, which dates back to the time when MML were
using the interim station.

Yes, it's all there, ready and waiting. Also visible briefly after
emerging from the covered bridge when arriving into St P by Eurostar
or indeed on an SE Highspeed train.

Thameslink programme to go ahead "in it's entirety"
 

On Nov 26, 6:33*pm, "Paul Scott"
wrote:

They were completed during 2004/5 or so, probably during the Thameslink
blockade? *Anyone know for sure?

They were.

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Nick

Thameslink programme to go ahead "in it's entirety"
 

On Nov 26, 7:13*pm, "Ian Bidwell" wrote:

timetable alterations. In any case does the Greater Anglia franchise have
running powers to Kings Lynn outside peak times?


Whether they do or don't is irrelevant to a future plan.

If they need it, or rather the DfT decides it, then it happens.

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Nick