Network Card on Standsted Express?
 

Do I misremember that there was a discussion here (one of
uk.transport.london or uk.railway -- x-posting to both) in which it
was suggested that the Network Card is not valid on Stansted Express?

This page seems to suggest it is valid:

http://www.stanstedexpress.com/Ticke...hrailcard.html

Has this changed, is that page wrong, or did I just imagine the whole
discussion?

-roy

Network Card on Standsted Express?
 

On Dec 4, 12:33*pm, (Roy Badami) wrote:
Do I misremember that there was a discussion here (one of
uk.transport.london or uk.railway -- x-posting to both) in which it
was suggested that the Network Card is not valid on Stansted Express?

This page seems to suggest it is valid:

http://www.stanstedexpress.com/Ticke...hrailcard.html

Has this changed, is that page wrong, or did I just imagine the whole
discussion?

* * -roy

It's not valid for Stansted Express special online fares - that's the
only oddity about it.

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On Dec 4, 12:33*pm, (Roy Badami) wrote:
Do I misremember that there was a discussion here (one of
uk.transport.london or uk.railway -- x-posting to both) in which it
was suggested that the Network Card is not valid on Stansted Express?

This page seems to suggest it is valid:

http://www.stanstedexpress.com/Ticke...hrailcard.html

Has this changed, is that page wrong, or did I just imagine the whole
discussion?

I don't remember any such discussion. I think the Network (Rail)Card
has always been valid on Stansted Express (when it began it was very
much an NSE branded and operated service, unlike GatEx which was
Intercity).

It's only fairly recently that HEx have started giving discounts to
Network Railcard holders - GatEx meanwhile doesn't offer a discount
for Network Railcards at all (so get the Southern or FCC service
instead, but bear in mind the £13 weekday minimum fare).

Network Card on Standsted Express?
 

(Roy Badami) wrote:
Do I misremember that there was a discussion here (one of
uk.transport.london or uk.railway -- x-posting to both) in which it
was suggested that the Network Card is not valid on Stansted Express?

This page seems to suggest it is valid:

http://www.stanstedexpress.com/Ticke...hrailcard.html

Has this changed, is that page wrong, or did I just imagine the whole
discussion?


If you use "Standsted" often enough, how soon do you think you can
persuade the airport to change the spelling?

Network Card on Standsted Express?
 

In article ,
wrote:
It's not valid for Stansted Express special online fares - that's the
only oddity about it.

Thanks - must have imagined it then.

So, the particular case in point: if I have a ticket from Cambridge to
London Terminals, routed 'NXEA only' and discounted with a Network
Card, can I travel Cambridge to Bishop's Stortford and then pick up
the Stansted Express there to Liverpool St?

By the sound of it the answer is 'yes'?

-roy

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In article ,
Mizter T wrote:

I don't remember any such discussion. I think the Network (Rail)Card
has always been valid on Stansted Express (when it began it was very
much an NSE branded and operated service, unlike GatEx which was
Intercity).

Thanks - maybe I'm confusing it with a discussion of Gatwick Express then.

It's only fairly recently that HEx have started giving discounts to
Network Railcard holders - GatEx meanwhile doesn't offer a discount
for Network Railcards at all (so get the Southern or FCC service
instead, but bear in mind the £13 weekday minimum fare).

Ah, I didn't realise that HEX had any discounts - interesting.

Cheers,

-roy

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On Dec 4, 12:55*pm, Bruce wrote:

(Roy Badami) wrote:
Do I misremember that there was a discussion here (one of
uk.transport.london or uk.railway -- x-posting to both) in which it
was suggested that the Network Card is not valid on Stansted Express?

This page seems to suggest it is valid:

http://www.stanstedexpress.com/Ticke...hrailcard.html

Has this changed, is that page wrong, or did I just imagine the whole
discussion?

If you use "Standsted" often enough, how soon do you think you can
persuade the airport to change the spelling?

I think Stanstead is winning - dunno where Standstead is though.

(I dare say though don't know that in ye days of olde it was spelt in
all manner of ways - the place that is, not the airport!)

Network Card on Standsted Express?
 

On Dec 4, 12:56*pm, (Roy Badami) wrote:

wrote:
It's not valid for Stansted Express special online fares - that's the
only oddity about it.

Thanks - must have imagined it then.

So, the particular case in point: if I have a ticket from Cambridge to
London Terminals, routed 'NXEA only' and discounted with a Network
Card, can I travel Cambridge to Bishop's Stortford and then pick up
the Stansted Express there to Liverpool St?

By the sound of it the answer is 'yes'?

I reckon so - from Bishop's Stortford to Liverpool Street, the StEx is
in fares terms a regular NXEA service I think (though note that from
Liv St it's pick-up only at Tottenham Hale, even though I think plenty
of people use it for that journey anyway!).

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Mizter T wrote:
On Dec 4, 12:55*pm, Bruce wrote:
(Roy Badami) wrote:
Do I misremember that there was a discussion here (one of
uk.transport.london or uk.railway -- x-posting to both) in which it
was suggested that the Network Card is not valid on Stansted Express?

This page seems to suggest it is valid:

http://www.stanstedexpress.com/Ticke...hrailcard.html

Has this changed, is that page wrong, or did I just imagine the whole
discussion?

If you use "Standsted" often enough, how soon do you think you can
persuade the airport to change the spelling?

I think Stanstead is winning - dunno where Standstead is though.

(I dare say though don't know that in ye days of olde it was spelt in
all manner of ways - the place that is, not the airport!)


Language evolves, Mizter T. We shouldn't talk about a spelling being
right or wrong, it should be whatever most people use. Until most
people decide to use some other spelling, of course.

I'm starting a campaign to change the spelling of "Cambridge" to
"Camebridge". That is what it sounds like, so that is eggsacktlee how
it should of been spelt.

We'll also have to change the name of the River Cam to "Came". Well,
spellings come and go, so this one Came and went. ;-)

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On 2010\12\04 15:27, Bruce wrote:

Language evolves, Mizter T. We shouldn't talk about a spelling being
right or wrong, it should be whatever most people use.

No, Stansted Airport has an owner, and they own its spelling, unlike the
English language which we all own.

I'm starting a campaign to change the spelling of "Cambridge" to
"Camebridge". That is what it sounds like, so that is eggsacktlee how
it should of been spelt.

We'll also have to change the name of the River Cam to "Came".

Is the river pronounced "came"?

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On 04/12/10 15:27, Bruce wrote:

Language evolves, Mizter T. We shouldn't talk about a spelling being
right or wrong, it should be whatever most people use. Until most
people decide to use some other spelling, of course.

No - that's just an excuse to justify the fact that lot of people are
sloppy or poorly educated.

--
Tim Watts

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In article ,
Basil Jet wrote:
On 2010\12\04 15:27, Bruce wrote:

Language evolves, Mizter T. We shouldn't talk about a spelling being
right or wrong, it should be whatever most people use.

No, Stansted Airport has an owner, and they own its spelling, unlike the
English language which we all own.

I'm starting a campaign to change the spelling of "Cambridge" to
"Camebridge". That is what it sounds like, so that is eggsacktlee how
it should of been spelt.

We'll also have to change the name of the River Cam to "Came".

Is the river pronounced "came"?

IME it's pronounced "wet".

Nick
--
Serendipity: http://www.leverton.org/blosxom (last update 29th March 2010)
"The Internet, a sort of ersatz counterfeit of real life"
-- Janet Street-Porter, BBC2, 19th March 1996

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On Sat, 04 Dec 2010 15:39:42 +0000, Tim Watts wrote:

On 04/12/10 15:27, Bruce wrote:

Language evolves, Mizter T. We shouldn't talk about a spelling being
right or wrong, it should be whatever most people use. Until most
people decide to use some other spelling, of course.

No - that's just an excuse to justify the fact that lot of people are
sloppy or poorly educated.

Hear hear.

--
Frank Erskine

Network Card on Standsted Express?
 

Basil Jet wrote:
On 2010\12\04 15:27, Bruce wrote:
Language evolves, Mizter T. We shouldn't talk about a spelling being
right or wrong, it should be whatever most people use.

No, Stansted Airport has an owner, and they own its spelling, unlike the
English language which we all own.

I'm starting a campaign to change the spelling of "Cambridge" to
"Camebridge". That is what it sounds like, so that is eggsacktlee how
it should of been spelt.

We'll also have to change the name of the River Cam to "Came".

Is the river pronounced "came"?


It will be, soon. ;-)

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Tim Watts wrote:
On 04/12/10 15:27, Bruce wrote:

Language evolves, Mizter T. We shouldn't talk about a spelling being
right or wrong, it should be whatever most people use. Until most
people decide to use some other spelling, of course.

No - that's just an excuse to justify the fact that lot of people are
sloppy or poorly educated.


You didn't spot the irony?

Whoosh!!!!

Network Card on Standsted Express?
 

Basil Jet wrote:
No, Stansted Airport has an owner, and they own its spelling

Disagree entirely. No matter how many times the Murdoch-owned weekly
broadsheet refers to itself self-importantly as The Sunday Times, I
shall continue to call it the Sunday Times. Gap might offer cheap
clothes for "holiday", but I'd always call it a "Christmas sale".
British Midland might capitalise its low-cost offspring ridiculously;
I call it BMI Baby.

And so on. Up-themselves marketing departments are not the sole
arbiters of spelling and orthography about their own institutions, no
matter how much they might like to be.

Richard

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On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 13:29:12 -0800 (PST), Richard Fairhurst put finger to
keyboard and typed:

Basil Jet wrote:
No, Stansted Airport has an owner, and they own its spelling

Disagree entirely. No matter how many times the Murdoch-owned weekly
broadsheet refers to itself self-importantly as The Sunday Times, I
shall continue to call it the Sunday Times. Gap might offer cheap
clothes for "holiday", but I'd always call it a "Christmas sale".
British Midland might capitalise its low-cost offspring ridiculously;
I call it BMI Baby.

You don't, however, refer to the Sudnay Times, a Christmas sail or BMI
Booby. You are entitled to insist that people spell your name as Richard,
not Ricard or Ritchard. There is a right and wrong spelling of all of
these, and the ones you normally use are the right ones. Capitalisation is
an entirely separate matter.

Mark
--
Blog: http://mark.goodge.co.uk
Stuff: http://www.good-stuff.co.uk

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On Dec 4, 3:34*pm, Basil Jet wrote:

No, Stansted Airport has an owner, and they own its spelling, unlike the
English language which we all own.

Stansted Airport is an airport located near a village called Stansted
(Mountfitchet), with that spelling. Arguably the people who live
there get to define what the village is called, and the airport's name
derives from that...

Neil

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Mark Goodge wrote:
You don't, however, refer to the Sudnay Times, a Christmas sail or BMI
Booby.

Oh, I think I could manage the latter after they once managed to
deposit me at East Midlands Airport after the last bus had gone...

You are entitled to insist that people spell your name as Richard,
not Ricard or Ritchard. There is a right and wrong spelling of all of
these, and the ones you normally use are the right ones. Capitalisation is
an entirely separate matter.

I raise you one Whittlesea. :)

But yes, it's an interesting one. I'm not sure how I'd gloss the NAACP
for a British English-speaking audience.

Richard

Network Card on Standsted Express?
 

Bruce writes:

We'll also have to change the name of the River Cam to "Came". Well,
spellings come and go, so this one Came and went. ;-)

Not forgetting the river Temms

Network Card on Standsted Express?
 

Graham Murray wrote:
Bruce writes:

We'll also have to change the name of the River Cam to "Came". Well,
spellings come and go, so this one Came and went. ;-)

Not forgetting the river Temms


Yes, the one that runs through Lundun.

Network Card on Standsted Express?
 

On 04/12/2010 23:54, Bruce wrote:
Graham wrote:
writes:

We'll also have to change the name of the River Cam to "Came". Well,
spellings come and go, so this one Came and went. ;-)

Not forgetting the river Temms


Yes, the one that runs through Lundun.

According to local pronunciation, Lannon I would have thought ;-)

--
Jeremy Double {real address, include nospam}
Rail and transport photos at
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jmdoubl...7603834894248/

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On 2010\12\04 22:01, Neil Williams wrote:
On Dec 4, 3:34 pm, Basil wrote:

No, Stansted Airport has an owner, and they own its spelling, unlike the
English language which we all own.

Stansted Airport is an airport located near a village called Stansted
(Mountfitchet), with that spelling. Arguably the people who live
there get to define what the village is called, and the airport's name
derives from that...

The fact that the airport is not called Stansted Mountfitchet Airport
completely undermines your argument.

Network Card on Standsted Express?
 

On Dec 5, 7:29*am, Jeremy Double wrote:
On 04/12/2010 23:54, Bruce wrote: Graham *wrote:
*writes:

We'll also have to change the name of the River Cam to "Came". *Well,
spellings come and go, so this one Came and went. *;-)

Not forgetting the river Temms

Yes, the one that runs through Lundun.

According to local pronunciation, Lannon I would have thought ;-)

Not really. There's a subtle distinction between those vowels,
difficult for northerners, which possibly explains the (fairly posh)
recordings on the Northern Line referring to Landon Bridge and
Barough. Done by a voice-coached northerner I bet.

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On Sun, 5 Dec 2010, Basil Jet wrote:

On 2010\12\04 22:01, Neil Williams wrote:
On Dec 4, 3:34 pm, Basil wrote:

No, Stansted Airport has an owner, and they own its spelling, unlike the
English language which we all own.

Stansted Airport is an airport located near a village called Stansted
(Mountfitchet), with that spelling. Arguably the people who live
there get to define what the village is called, and the airport's name
derives from that...

The fact that the airport is not called Stansted Mountfitchet Airport
completely undermines your argument.

I will henceforth be referring to the place as Mountfitchet Aerodrome.

tom

--
Remember Sammy Jankis.

Network Card on Standsted Express?
 

Tom Anderson wrote:
On Sun, 5 Dec 2010, Basil Jet wrote:
On 2010\12\04 22:01, Neil Williams wrote:
On Dec 4, 3:34 pm, Basil wrote:

No, Stansted Airport has an owner, and they own its spelling, unlike the
English language which we all own.

Stansted Airport is an airport located near a village called Stansted
(Mountfitchet), with that spelling. Arguably the people who live
there get to define what the village is called, and the airport's name
derives from that...

The fact that the airport is not called Stansted Mountfitchet Airport
completely undermines your argument.

I will henceforth be referring to the place as Mountfitchet Aerodrome.


Too modern, old chap ...

"Mountfitchet Flying Field" if you please, Sir!

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On Dec 5, 7:35*am, Basil Jet wrote:
On 2010\12\04 22:01, Neil Williams wrote:

On Dec 4, 3:34 pm, Basil *wrote:

No, Stansted Airport has an owner, and they own its spelling, unlike the
English language which we all own.

Stansted Airport is an airport located near a village called Stansted
(Mountfitchet), with that spelling. *Arguably the people who live
there get to define what the village is called, and the airport's name
derives from that...

The fact that the airport is not called Stansted Mountfitchet Airport
completely undermines your argument.

Basil Jet being an expert on air travel, naturally.
Tim

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In article ,
(Basil Jet) wrote:

On 2010\12\04 22:01, Neil Williams wrote:
On Dec 4, 3:34 pm, Basil wrote:

No, Stansted Airport has an owner, and they own its spelling, unlike
the English language which we all own.

Stansted Airport is an airport located near a village called Stansted
(Mountfitchet), with that spelling. Arguably the people who live
there get to define what the village is called, and the airport's name
derives from that...

The fact that the airport is not called Stansted Mountfitchet
Airport completely undermines your argument.

The village (small town really) was always called Stansted until the
airport got big enough for the residents to want to distinguish themselves
from it for various reasons. That included, ISTR, renaming the station.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

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On 2010-12-05 21:32:40 +0000, said:

In article ,
(Basil Jet) wrote:

On 2010\12\04 22:01, Neil Williams wrote:
On Dec 4, 3:34 pm, Basil wrote:

No, Stansted Airport has an owner, and they own its spelling, unlike
the English language which we all own.

Stansted Airport is an airport located near a village called Stansted
(Mountfitchet), with that spelling. Arguably the people who live
there get to define what the village is called, and the airport's name
derives from that...

The fact that the airport is not called Stansted Mountfitchet
Airport completely undermines your argument.

The village (small town really) was always called Stansted until the
airport got big enough for the residents to want to distinguish themselves
from it for various reasons. That included, ISTR, renaming the station.

Well, as I said earlier, the Mountfitchet bit was definitely there in
1611. I've lived near the village since '79 and I've always known the
Mountfitchet part. The station, of course, did not gain it until 1990
or so.

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wrote in message
...
In article ,
(Basil Jet) wrote:

On 2010\12\04 22:01, Neil Williams wrote:
On Dec 4, 3:34 pm, Basil wrote:

No, Stansted Airport has an owner, and they own its spelling, unlike
the English language which we all own.

Stansted Airport is an airport located near a village called Stansted
(Mountfitchet), with that spelling. Arguably the people who live
there get to define what the village is called, and the airport's name
derives from that...

The fact that the airport is not called Stansted Mountfitchet
Airport completely undermines your argument.

The village (small town really) was always called Stansted until the
airport got big enough for the residents to want to distinguish themselves
from it for various reasons. That included, ISTR, renaming the station.

OT1H my 1964 ER TT shows the station as Stansted.

OTOH my 1950 AA Book of the Road quite clearly shows the village name as
"Stansted Mountfitchet"

tim

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On Dec 6, 6:50*pm, "tim...." wrote:

wrote:

The village (small town really) was always called Stansted until the
airport got big enough for the residents to want to distinguish themselves
from it for various reasons. That included, ISTR, renaming the station.

OT1H my 1964 ER TT shows the station as Stansted.

OTOH my 1950 AA Book of the Road quite clearly shows the village name as
"Stansted Mountfitchet"

What does Domesday say?

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On Dec 7, 12:56*am, Mizter T wrote:

On Dec 6, 6:50*pm, "tim...." wrote:

wrote:

The village (small town really) was always called Stansted until the
airport got big enough for the residents to want to distinguish themselves
from it for various reasons. That included, ISTR, renaming the station.

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In message
,
Mizter T writes

On Dec 6, 6:50*pm, "tim...." wrote:

wrote:

The village (small town really) was always called Stansted until the
airport got big enough for the residents to want to distinguish themselves
from it for various reasons. That included, ISTR, renaming the station.

OT1H my 1964 ER TT shows the station as Stansted.

OTOH my 1950 AA Book of the Road quite clearly shows the village name as
"Stansted Mountfitchet"

What does Domesday say?

Stanesteda

The local baron (the Duke of Boulogne) didn't change the family name
from Gernon to de Montfitchet until a few years after the Domesday
survey. (Thanks for not spelling it Doomsday :)
--
Paul Terry

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On Mon, 6 Dec 2010, Ken Wheatley wrote:

On 2010-12-05 21:32:40 +0000, said:

In article ,
(Basil Jet) wrote:

On 2010\12\04 22:01, Neil Williams wrote:
On Dec 4, 3:34 pm, Basil wrote:

No, Stansted Airport has an owner, and they own its spelling, unlike
the English language which we all own.

Stansted Airport is an airport located near a village called Stansted
(Mountfitchet), with that spelling. Arguably the people who live
there get to define what the village is called, and the airport's name
derives from that...

The fact that the airport is not called Stansted Mountfitchet
Airport completely undermines your argument.

The village (small town really) was always called Stansted until the
airport got big enough for the residents to want to distinguish
themselves from it for various reasons. That included, ISTR, renaming
the station.

Well, as I said earlier, the Mountfitchet bit was definitely there in
1611. I've lived near the village since '79

Crumbs. That is as long time.

tom

--
09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0 -- AACS Licensing Administrator

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On 2010-12-07 20:59:32 +0000, Tom Anderson said:

On Mon, 6 Dec 2010, Ken Wheatley wrote:

On 2010-12-05 21:32:40 +0000, said:

In article ,
(Basil Jet) wrote:

On 2010\12\04 22:01, Neil Williams wrote:
On Dec 4, 3:34 pm, Basil wrote:

No, Stansted Airport has an owner, and they own its spelling, unlike
the English language which we all own.

Stansted Airport is an airport located near a village called Stansted
(Mountfitchet), with that spelling. Arguably the people who live
there get to define what the village is called, and the airport's name
derives from that...

The fact that the airport is not called Stansted Mountfitchet
Airport completely undermines your argument.

The village (small town really) was always called Stansted until the
airport got big enough for the residents to want to distinguish
themselves from it for various reasons. That included, ISTR, renaming
the station.

Well, as I said earlier, the Mountfitchet bit was definitely there in
1611. I've lived near the village since '79

Crumbs. That is as long time.

tom

:-) I did have a parenthised 19 in the latter date but decided it
looked ugly You have shown that it was necessary.