On Dec 29, 4:47*pm, "antsuxx" wrote:
My thoughts to, i have driven subs *and epb,s in the 70,s and 80,s in the
midst of the severe weather experienced then , and quite rightly so , the
subs and epb,s ploughed on , even the later veps, and ceps managed, yes
spectacular pyrotechnics indeed,something you dont see today, im sure to the
problem partly to do with fragile shoe gear, something not difficult to
diagnose, well unless you dnt have any railway experience that is!!

There is much less exterior structure on the bogies of the newer
fleets. This may mean that there is nowhere to attach heavier shoe
gear. IMHO this whole matter needs a rethink.

On Dec 29, 4:55*pm, 1506 wrote:
On Dec 29, 4:47*pm, "antsuxx" wrote:

My thoughts to, i have driven subs *and epb,s in the 70,s and 80,s in the
midst of the severe weather experienced then , and quite rightly so , the
subs and epb,s ploughed on , even the later veps, and ceps managed, yes
spectacular pyrotechnics indeed,something you dont see today, im sure to the
problem partly to do with fragile shoe gear, something not difficult to
diagnose, well unless you dnt have any railway experience that is!!

There is much less exterior structure on the bogies of the newer
fleets. *This may mean that there is nowhere to attach heavier shoe
gear. *IMHO this whole matter needs a rethink.

Here's an idea...get a 160 ton steam train fitted with a snow plough
that shifts the snow, and crunches the ice.

Some companies forget that the purpose of rail travel is to get fare-
paying passengers from A to B. If they don't get to their destination
then they get kinda ****ed off.

Just an idea....

McK.

On 29/12/2010 17:54, McKevvy wrote:
On Dec 29, 4:55 pm, wrote:
On Dec 29, 4:47 pm, wrote:

My thoughts to, i have driven subs and epb,s in the 70,s and 80,s in the
midst of the severe weather experienced then , and quite rightly so , the
subs and epb,s ploughed on , even the later veps, and ceps managed, yes
spectacular pyrotechnics indeed,something you dont see today, im sure to the
problem partly to do with fragile shoe gear, something not difficult to
diagnose, well unless you dnt have any railway experience that is!!

There is much less exterior structure on the bogies of the newer
fleets. This may mean that there is nowhere to attach heavier shoe
gear. IMHO this whole matter needs a rethink.

Here's an idea...get a 160 ton steam train fitted with a snow plough
that shifts the snow, and crunches the ice.

Apart from a distinct lack of 160 ton steam locos, the snow plough is
not going to get the ice off the conductor rail. Great idea otherwise...

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.
Railway Miscellany at www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail
Photo galleries at http://graeme-wall.fotopic.net

Here's an idea...get a 160 ton steam train fitted with a snow plough
that shifts the snow, and crunches the ice.

Apart from a distinct lack of 160 ton steam locos, the snow plough is not
going to get the ice off the conductor rail. Great idea otherwise...

And you don't need a "160 ton steam train", or did he mean "locomotive"?

I thought it was only the media and the unwashed masses who didn't know the
difference between a train and a locomotive.



--
Merry Christmas
Roger Traviss


Photos of the late GER: -
http://www.highspeedplus.com/~rogertra/

For more photos not in the above album and kitbashes etc..:-
http://s94.photobucket.com/albums/l9...Great_Eastern/.

On Dec 29, 7:03*pm, "Roger Traviss"
wrote:
Here's an idea...get a 160 ton steam train fitted with a snow plough
that shifts the snow, and crunches the ice.

Apart from a distinct lack of 160 ton steam locos, the snow plough is not
going to get the ice off the conductor rail. *Great idea otherwise...

And you don't need a "160 ton steam train", or did he mean "locomotive"?

I thought it was only the media and the unwashed masses who didn't know the
difference between a train and a locomotive.

And what does this "solution" do for the third rail?

On 29 déc, 20:03, "Roger Traviss" wrote:
Here's an idea...get a 160 ton steam train fitted with a snow plough
that shifts the snow, and crunches the ice.

Apart from a distinct lack of 160 ton steam locos, the snow plough is not
going to get the ice off the conductor rail. *Great idea otherwise...

And you don't need a "160 ton steam train", or did he mean "locomotive"?

I thought it was only the media and the unwashed masses who didn't know the
difference between a train and a locomotive.

--
Merry Christmas
Roger Traviss

Photos of the late GER: -http://www.highspeedplus.com/~rogertra/

For more photos not in the above album and kitbashes etc..:-http://s94.photobucket.com/albums/l99/rogertra/Great_Eastern/.

Since Train is derived from the french "trainer" - to follow what
noun should be applied to those strings of passenger vehicles
propelled by a locomotive but controlled from the leading vehicle?

Happy New Year!

"Sailor" schreef

Since Train is derived from the french "trainer" - to follow what
noun should be applied to those strings of passenger vehicles
propelled by a locomotive but controlled from the leading vehicle?
____________

The French word "traîner" means: drag, pull, haul, tow, and so "train" is
exactly the apt word.

The first sense of the French word "train" is a string, series, or line of
things, in sequence or linked together.

Colin Youngs
Brussels

On 30 déc, 14:07, "Colin Youngs" wrote:
"Sailor" schreef

Since Train is derived from the french "trainer" - to follow * what
noun should be applied to those strings of passenger vehicles
propelled by a locomotive but controlled from the leading vehicle?
____________

The French word "tra ner" means: drag, pull, haul, tow, and so "train" is
exactly the apt word.

The first sense of the French word "train" is a string, series, or line of
things, in sequence or linked together.

Colin Youngs
Brussels

I so agree! My problem arrives with equating drag,pull,haul & tow
with push and propel &(shove, ram etc)!

On Dec 30, 10:28*am, Sailor wrote:
On 29 déc, 20:03, "Roger Traviss" wrote:



Here's an idea...get a 160 ton steam train fitted with a snow plough
that shifts the snow, and crunches the ice.

Apart from a distinct lack of 160 ton steam locos, the snow plough is not
going to get the ice off the conductor rail. *Great idea otherwise....

And you don't need a "160 ton steam train", or did he mean "locomotive"?

I thought it was only the media and the unwashed masses who didn't know the
difference between a train and a locomotive.

--
Merry Christmas
Roger Traviss

Photos of the late GER: -http://www.highspeedplus.com/~rogertra/

For more photos not in the above album and kitbashes etc..:-http://s94.photobucket.com/albums/l99/rogertra/Great_Eastern/.

Since Train is derived from the french "trainer" - to follow * what
noun should be applied to those strings of passenger vehicles
propelled by a locomotive but controlled from the leading vehicle?

Happy New Year!

Derived from is not the same as same as.
How does the OED define train?

On 30 déc, 15:59, Jeff wrote:
On Dec 30, 10:28*am, Sailor wrote:





On 29 déc, 20:03, "Roger Traviss" wrote:

Here's an idea...get a 160 ton steam train fitted with a snow plough
that shifts the snow, and crunches the ice.

Apart from a distinct lack of 160 ton steam locos, the snow plough is not
going to get the ice off the conductor rail. *Great idea otherwise...

And you don't need a "160 ton steam train", or did he mean "locomotive"?

I thought it was only the media and the unwashed masses who didn't know the
difference between a train and a locomotive.

--
Merry Christmas
Roger Traviss

Photos of the late GER: -http://www.highspeedplus.com/~rogertra/

For more photos not in the above album and kitbashes etc..:-http://s94.photobucket.com/albums/l99/rogertra/Great_Eastern/.

Since Train is derived from the french "trainer" - to follow * what
noun should be applied to those strings of passenger vehicles
propelled by a locomotive but controlled from the leading vehicle?

Happy New Year!

Derived from is not the same as same as.
How does the OED define train?- Masquer le texte des messages précédents -

- Afficher le texte des messages précédents -

My only English Dictionary (they are so rare in France) indicates
train as "that which is drawn or follows" which of course is the
French definition of Train in proper French -- does the modified
Belgian version say otherwise? Do you see where my query
originates ! Can a DVT be said to draw a train propelled from the rear?