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On Sat, 01 Jan 2011 16:58:53 +0000, boltar2003 wrote:

The victoria line in general heads southwest - northeast. Particularly
the line before walthamstow is definately heading east. So what
dribbling ****wit decided that the line map in the 2009 stock would be
the other way around with walthamstow on the left, brixton on the right?


Not really that big a deal though, is it?
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On Jan 1, 7:58*pm, Martin Petrov
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On Sat, 01 Jan 2011 16:58:53 +0000, boltar2003 wrote:
The victoria line in general heads southwest - northeast. Particularly
the line before walthamstow is definately heading east. So what
dribbling ****wit decided that the line map in the 2009 stock would be
the other way around with walthamstow on the left, brixton on the right?


Not really that big a deal though, is it?


It's certainly a lot easier to fix than those tiny windows, cramped
interior due to thick walls and rock hard seats angled so that you
can't sit in them.
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It's certainly a lot easier to fix than those tiny windows, cramped
interior due to thick walls and rock hard seats angled so that you can't
sit in them.


Meh, maybe - however "seats" on the Victoria Line are things that happen
to other people so the fact that I can stand completely upright in the
doorways (I'm 6 foot 3) is a big win.
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On Sun, 2 Jan 2011 10:37:30 +0000 (UTC), Martin Petrov
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Meh, maybe - however "seats" on the Victoria Line are things that

happen
to other people so the fact that I can stand completely upright in

the
doorways (I'm 6 foot 3) is a big win.


I'm with you on that. And big windows, while I like these on
mainline trains, aren't that high up the list on a line that is
completely underground.

All in all, they are a worthy replacement, IMO.

Neil

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On Jan 2, 3:58*pm, Neil Williams wrote:
On Sun, 2 Jan 2011 10:37:30 +0000 (UTC), Martin Petrov

wrote:
Meh, maybe - however "seats" on the Victoria Line are things that

happen
to other people so the fact that I can stand completely upright in

the
doorways (I'm 6 foot 3) is a big win.


I'm with you on that. *And big windows, while I like these on
mainline trains, aren't that high up the list on a line that is
completely underground.

All in all, they are a worthy replacement, IMO.

Neil


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On Sat, 1 Jan 2011, MIG wrote:

On Jan 1, 7:58*pm, Martin Petrov
wrote:
On Sat, 01 Jan 2011 16:58:53 +0000, boltar2003 wrote:
The victoria line in general heads southwest - northeast. Particularly
the line before walthamstow is definately heading east. So what
dribbling ****wit decided that the line map in the 2009 stock would be
the other way around with walthamstow on the left, brixton on the right?


Not really that big a deal though, is it?


It's certainly a lot easier to fix than those tiny windows, cramped
interior due to thick walls and rock hard seats angled so that you can't
sit in them.


Oh, you can sit in them. If you can't, try harder, or consult someone who
has more experience at sitting down. No, they aren't comfortable (they
*really* aren't comfortable), but how long are you planning on spending on
a Victoria line train in one go anyway?

If you want to moan about the 2009 stock, the reliability so far would be
my suggestion of where to start!

tom

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On Jan 3, 3:13*pm, Tom Anderson wrote:
On Sat, 1 Jan 2011, MIG wrote:
On Jan 1, 7:58�pm, Martin Petrov
wrote:
On Sat, 01 Jan 2011 16:58:53 +0000, boltar2003 wrote:
The victoria line in general heads southwest - northeast. Particularly
the line before walthamstow is definately heading east. So what
dribbling ****wit decided that the line map in the 2009 stock would be
the other way around with walthamstow on the left, brixton on the right?


Not really that big a deal though, is it?


It's certainly a lot easier to fix than those tiny windows, cramped
interior due to thick walls and rock hard seats angled so that you can't
sit in them.


Oh, you can sit in them. If you can't, try harder, or consult someone who
has more experience at sitting down. No, they aren't comfortable (they
*really* aren't comfortable), but how long are you planning on spending on
a Victoria line train in one go anyway?

If you want to moan about the 2009 stock, the reliability so far would be
my suggestion of where to start!


Why would I moan that they aren't reliable enough to replace the
existing trains any sooner?
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On Mon, 3 Jan 2011, MIG wrote:

On Jan 3, 3:13*pm, Tom Anderson wrote:
On Sat, 1 Jan 2011, MIG wrote:
On Jan 1, 7:58�pm, Martin Petrov
wrote:
On Sat, 01 Jan 2011 16:58:53 +0000, boltar2003 wrote:
The victoria line in general heads southwest - northeast. Particularly
the line before walthamstow is definately heading east. So what
dribbling ****wit decided that the line map in the 2009 stock would be
the other way around with walthamstow on the left, brixton on the right?


Not really that big a deal though, is it?


It's certainly a lot easier to fix than those tiny windows, cramped
interior due to thick walls and rock hard seats angled so that you can't
sit in them.


Oh, you can sit in them. If you can't, try harder, or consult someone who
has more experience at sitting down. No, they aren't comfortable (they
*really* aren't comfortable), but how long are you planning on spending on
a Victoria line train in one go anyway?

If you want to moan about the 2009 stock, the reliability so far would be
my suggestion of where to start!


Why would I moan that they aren't reliable enough to replace the
existing trains any sooner?


Point taken!

tom

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On Jan 3, 3:13*pm, Tom Anderson wrote:
On Sat, 1 Jan 2011, MIG wrote:
On Jan 1, 7:58�pm, Martin Petrov
wrote:
On Sat, 01 Jan 2011 16:58:53 +0000, boltar2003 wrote:
The victoria line in general heads southwest - northeast. Particularly
the line before walthamstow is definately heading east. So what
dribbling ****wit decided that the line map in the 2009 stock would be
the other way around with walthamstow on the left, brixton on the right?


Not really that big a deal though, is it?


It's certainly a lot easier to fix than those tiny windows, cramped
interior due to thick walls and rock hard seats angled so that you can't
sit in them.


Oh, you can sit in them. If you can't, try harder, or consult someone who
has more experience at sitting down. No, they aren't comfortable (they
*really* aren't comfortable), but how long are you planning on spending on
a Victoria line train in one go anyway?

If you want to moan about the 2009 stock, the reliability so far would be
my suggestion of where to start!

tom

--
Formal logical proofs, and therefore programs - formal logical proofs
that particular computations are possible, expressed in a formal system
called a programming language - are utterly meaningless. To write a
computer program you have to come to terms with this, to accept that
whatever you might want the program to mean, the machine will blindly
follow its meaningless rules and come to some meaningless conclusion. --
Dehnadi and Bornat


Regarding moans about the Victoria Line, it would be nice if they
could fix the platform indicators so that they actually correspond
with the destination of the train. I have lost count of the number of
times I have stood on the platform at Kings Cross with the platform
indicator showing Seven Sisters, and yet when the train arrives it
shows Walthamstow Central. It also happens the other way round. For
information, the destination on the front of the train is more
reliable than what is shown on the platform indicators. Isn't
technology wonderful?
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On Wed, 5 Jan 2011 00:27:18 -0800 (PST)
Paul wrote:
shows Walthamstow Central. It also happens the other way round. For
information, the destination on the front of the train is more
reliable than what is shown on the platform indicators. Isn't
technology wonderful?


The platform indicators don't work properly on any line AFAIK. On the
piccadilly they're only of any use for a rough guide as to when the
next train will show, the destination could be random numbers for all
the use it is.

B2003



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