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Today, on a full bus (214 southbound) several boys, perhaps aged 12 or
so, entered by the rear door, ordering myself who was exiting to get
out of their way and exhibiting various other obnoxiously rude
behaviours.

Not the crime of the century; not the world's biggest annoyance, but
still annoying enough. I attempted to stop them; in vain, of course,
and at the expense of more personal abuse.

I then alerted the (busy) driver, who took the information on board
and elected to ignore it and drive on, not checking the tickets of the
intruders and not taking account of those who could not get on the bus
through the correct door because of its fullness.

I can see the merit of his decision, electing to cause minimum delay
to the majority of passengers.

But other drivers might have done something else. Does LT (or whoever
it is nowadays) have policies on things like this? What are drivers
taught in training?


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Today, on a full bus (214 southbound) several boys, perhaps aged 12 or
so, entered by the rear door, ordering myself who was exiting to get
out of their way and exhibiting various other obnoxiously rude
behaviours.

Not the crime of the century; not the world's biggest annoyance, but
still annoying enough. I attempted to stop them; in vain, of course,
and at the expense of more personal abuse.

I then alerted the (busy) driver, who took the information on board
and elected to ignore it and drive on, not checking the tickets of the
intruders and not taking account of those who could not get on the bus
through the correct door because of its fullness.

I can see the merit of his decision, electing to cause minimum delay
to the majority of passengers.

But other drivers might have done something else. Does LT (or whoever
it is nowadays) have policies on things like this? What are drivers
taught in training?




You need to stay in more.

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I've seen PCSO's on buses quite a bit around Tottenham, Walthamstow, Leyton
and Leytonstone in the past few months at the time the schools finish


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I've seen PCSO's on buses quite a bit around Tottenham, Walthamstow, Leyton
and Leytonstone in the past few months at the time the schools finish
Sadly the "Yoof" culture as taken on board by Public Transport entities has invested under 16`s with a degree of Infallibility,Invincibility and Incivility in equal measure.

Most busdrivers would be well aware of the pitfalls of being seen to confront,reprimand or otherwise impede the progress of a "Child".

The lurid headlines would be an absolute Nightmare for a Bus Company`s PR person and no good would come of it.

I think there was a similar type of issue recently in one of the far-flung outposts of the FirstBus group....

http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/news/...l/article.html

Although the Bristol case did`nt directly involve Children,it serves to underline the No-Win situation which Busdrivers find themselves exposed to....something which leads directly to the 3 Wise Monkey`s scenario....See,Hear and Say Nuffink !!!!
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On Jan 14, 10:15*pm, "Nicola Redwood" nicolaexternal-
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I've seen PCSO's on buses quite a bit around Tottenham, Walthamstow, Leyton
and Leytonstone in the past few months at the time the schools finish


Not really a new development.


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