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"Graham Harrison" wrote:
I saw a Mercedes (Vito?) based black cab today. I've seen a couple previously but a thought occurred today. I have this recollection that, at some point in the past, one of the requirements for a black cab was a minimum turning circle and that was a part of the reason why we had unique vehicles. Was I dreaming and have they changed the requirement? The requirement has not been changed. In order to comply, the black cab version of the Vito is equipped with four wheel steering. The rear wheels steer in the opposite direction to the front wheels at low speed and at near-full lock. They are locked in the straight ahead position at all other times. Details he http://preview.tinyurl.com/6j9um8 Video review he http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hziiR7-vLWg |
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Wasn't the god-awful Nissan Serena once proposed as an alternative to
the traditional purpose-built taxis? Or is it me that's now dreaming (*) Cheers Matt (*) - Or more accurately, having nightmares if it were true .. |
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"Bruce" wrote in message ... "Graham Harrison" wrote: I saw a Mercedes (Vito?) based black cab today. I've seen a couple previously but a thought occurred today. I have this recollection that, at some point in the past, one of the requirements for a black cab was a minimum turning circle and that was a part of the reason why we had unique vehicles. Was I dreaming and have they changed the requirement? The requirement has not been changed. In order to comply, the black cab version of the Vito is equipped with four wheel steering. The rear wheels steer in the opposite direction to the front wheels at low speed and at near-full lock. They are locked in the straight ahead position at all other times. Details he http://preview.tinyurl.com/6j9um8 Video review he http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hziiR7-vLWg Thank you. |
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In article , edward.harrison1
@remove.btinternet.com says... "Bruce" wrote in message ... "Graham Harrison" wrote: I saw a Mercedes (Vito?) based black cab today. I've seen a couple previously but a thought occurred today. I have this recollection that, at some point in the past, one of the requirements for a black cab was a minimum turning circle and that was a part of the reason why we had unique vehicles. Was I dreaming and have they changed the requirement? The requirement has not been changed. In order to comply, the black cab version of the Vito is equipped with four wheel steering. The rear wheels steer in the opposite direction to the front wheels at low speed and at near-full lock. They are locked in the straight ahead position at all other times. Details he http://preview.tinyurl.com/6j9um8 Video review he http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hziiR7-vLWg Thank you. Hello Graham, not sure where you're living these days, but if it's of interest I spotted one in Reading with an LC58 registration. Having seen ones in London with very similar registrations I guess this is a London-spec one. |
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Jim [wake wrote:
In article , edward.harrison1 says... "Bruce" wrote in message ... "Graham Harrison" wrote: I saw a Mercedes (Vito?) based black cab today. I've seen a couple previously but a thought occurred today. I have this recollection that, at some point in the past, one of the requirements for a black cab was a minimum turning circle and that was a part of the reason why we had unique vehicles. Was I dreaming and have they changed the requirement? The requirement has not been changed. In order to comply, the black cab version of the Vito is equipped with four wheel steering. The rear wheels steer in the opposite direction to the front wheels at low speed and at near-full lock. They are locked in the straight ahead position at all other times. Details he http://preview.tinyurl.com/6j9um8 Video review he http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hziiR7-vLWg Thank you. Hello Graham, not sure where you're living these days, but if it's of interest I spotted one in Reading with an LC58 registration. Having seen ones in London with very similar registrations I guess this is a London-spec one. There is only one Vito Taxi model. Whether you buy it for use in London, Reading or Inverness (for example) it will still have the same key features that were necessary to gain London Public Carrriage Office approval. |
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"Jim" [wake wrote in message m... In article , edward.harrison1 @remove.btinternet.com says... "Bruce" wrote in message ... "Graham Harrison" wrote: I saw a Mercedes (Vito?) based black cab today. I've seen a couple previously but a thought occurred today. I have this recollection that, at some point in the past, one of the requirements for a black cab was a minimum turning circle and that was a part of the reason why we had unique vehicles. Was I dreaming and have they changed the requirement? The requirement has not been changed. In order to comply, the black cab version of the Vito is equipped with four wheel steering. The rear wheels steer in the opposite direction to the front wheels at low speed and at near-full lock. They are locked in the straight ahead position at all other times. Details he http://preview.tinyurl.com/6j9um8 Video review he http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hziiR7-vLWg Thank you. Hello Graham, not sure where you're living these days, but if it's of interest I spotted one in Reading with an LC58 registration. Having seen ones in London with very similar registrations I guess this is a London-spec one. Jim, The one that caught my eye was on the M4 heading from Heathrow in to London. The only other ones I know I've seen have been in London because they stand out. Somerset for me these days. You OK? |
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In article , edward.harrison1
@remove.btinternet.com says... "Jim" [wake wrote in message m... In article , edward.harrison1 @remove.btinternet.com says... "Bruce" wrote in message ... "Graham Harrison" wrote: I saw a Mercedes (Vito?) based black cab today. I've seen a couple previously but a thought occurred today. I have this recollection that, at some point in the past, one of the requirements for a black cab was a minimum turning circle and that was a part of the reason why we had unique vehicles. Was I dreaming and have they changed the requirement? The requirement has not been changed. In order to comply, the black cab version of the Vito is equipped with four wheel steering. The rear wheels steer in the opposite direction to the front wheels at low speed and at near-full lock. They are locked in the straight ahead position at all other times. Details he http://preview.tinyurl.com/6j9um8 Video review he http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hziiR7-vLWg Thank you. Hello Graham, not sure where you're living these days, but if it's of interest I spotted one in Reading with an LC58 registration. Having seen ones in London with very similar registrations I guess this is a London-spec one. Jim, The one that caught my eye was on the M4 heading from Heathrow in to London. The only other ones I know I've seen have been in London because they stand out. Somerset for me these days. You OK? Yes thanks Graham. The reason I mentioned it was I had an idea you were once living somewhere around Maidenhead. Knowing that Reading has 'proper' cabs, I was surpised to see a LC58 reg Vito in a rank there and I did see that it had a Reading plate. [My interest in taxis goes right back to a competition that one of the car hire firms ran many years ago whereby recording certain cabs earned one a free T-Shirt] |
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"Jim" [wake wrote in message m... In article , edward.harrison1 @remove.btinternet.com says... "Jim" [wake wrote in message m... In article , edward.harrison1 @remove.btinternet.com says... "Bruce" wrote in message ... "Graham Harrison" wrote: I saw a Mercedes (Vito?) based black cab today. I've seen a couple previously but a thought occurred today. I have this recollection that, at some point in the past, one of the requirements for a black cab was a minimum turning circle and that was a part of the reason why we had unique vehicles. Was I dreaming and have they changed the requirement? The requirement has not been changed. In order to comply, the black cab version of the Vito is equipped with four wheel steering. The rear wheels steer in the opposite direction to the front wheels at low speed and at near-full lock. They are locked in the straight ahead position at all other times. Details he http://preview.tinyurl.com/6j9um8 Video review he http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hziiR7-vLWg Thank you. Hello Graham, not sure where you're living these days, but if it's of interest I spotted one in Reading with an LC58 registration. Having seen ones in London with very similar registrations I guess this is a London-spec one. Jim, The one that caught my eye was on the M4 heading from Heathrow in to London. The only other ones I know I've seen have been in London because they stand out. Somerset for me these days. You OK? Yes thanks Graham. The reason I mentioned it was I had an idea you were once living somewhere around Maidenhead. Knowing that Reading has 'proper' cabs, I was surpised to see a LC58 reg Vito in a rank there and I did see that it had a Reading plate. [My interest in taxis goes right back to a competition that one of the car hire firms ran many years ago whereby recording certain cabs earned one a free T-Shirt] You're absolutely right. We were in Maidenhead for many years. Moved about 3 years ago. |
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Jim [wake wrote:
Knowing that Reading has 'proper' cabs, I was surpised to see a LC58 reg Vito in a rank there and I did see that it had a Reading plate. Why should that be a surprise? There is a thriving market in used London cabs. That market is national. It is certainly not restricted to London. As for the registration number, Mercedes-Benz sells them through one dealer based in East London, so all Mercedes Vito Taxis will have London registrations unless the new owner has a personal plate. |
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In article , docnews2011
@gmail.com says... Jim [wake wrote: Knowing that Reading has 'proper' cabs, I was surpised to see a LC58 reg Vito in a rank there and I did see that it had a Reading plate. Why should that be a surprise? There is a thriving market in used London cabs. That market is national. It is certainly not restricted to London. As for the registration number, Mercedes-Benz sells them through one dealer based in East London, so all Mercedes Vito Taxis will have London registrations unless the new owner has a personal plate. I can't believe this as I'm sure that the dealer you refer to only sells the London version, hence the surprise to see one in Reading. Vitos abound in cities and towns that use 'proper' cabs like Manchester, Nottingham, Birmingham etc and these have local registrations and are obviously the standard model. |
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Jim [wake wrote:
Jim [wake wrote: Knowing that Reading has 'proper' cabs, I was surpised to see a LC58 reg Vito in a rank there and I did see that it had a Reading plate. Why should that be a surprise? There is a thriving market in used London cabs. That market is national. It is certainly not restricted to London. As for the registration number, Mercedes-Benz sells them through one dealer based in East London, so all Mercedes Vito Taxis will have London registrations unless the new owner has a personal plate. I can't believe this as I'm sure that the dealer you refer to only sells the London version, hence the surprise to see one in Reading. There *is* only one version. Call it "the London version" if you wish, but there isn't any other version of the Vito Taxi. You can find cab conversions of Vitos done by several coachbuilders, but there is only one Vito Taxi. I sense that I'm wasting my time and the message probably still won't get across, so I'll make that my last contribution to this thread. ;-) |
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On 2011\02\24 12:47, Bruce wrote:
[wake wrote: [wake wrote: Knowing that Reading has 'proper' cabs, I was surpised to see a LC58 reg Vito in a rank there and I did see that it had a Reading plate. Why should that be a surprise? There is a thriving market in used London cabs. That market is national. It is certainly not restricted to London. As for the registration number, Mercedes-Benz sells them through one dealer based in East London, so all Mercedes Vito Taxis will have London registrations unless the new owner has a personal plate. I can't believe this as I'm sure that the dealer you refer to only sells the London version, hence the surprise to see one in Reading. There *is* only one version. Call it "the London version" if you wish, but there isn't any other version of the Vito Taxi. You can find cab conversions of Vitos done by several coachbuilders, but there is only one Vito Taxi. I sense that I'm wasting my time and the message probably still won't get across, so I'll make that my last contribution to this thread. ;-) Just watched this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hziiR7-vLWg I hadn't realised that the rear wheel steering only works going forward. That means it's theoretically possible to drive forward into places that you can't reverse from! |
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Basil Jet gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying: Just watched this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hziiR7-vLWg I hadn't realised that the rear wheel steering only works going forward. That means it's theoretically possible to drive forward into places that you can't reverse from! In one shot, at least. |
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David Cantrell gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying: The last Vito I saw doing a U-turn, in Pancras Road, wasn't using rear wheel steering. It only comes into use at low speed and almost full lock - perhaps neither of those were the case. Also it doesn't have very much rear wheel steering, so maybe it did but you didn't notice. Have you watched the video of it in action? http://www.randle.co.uk/clients/One80_1.html |
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On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 01:25:43PM +0000, Adrian wrote:
David Cantrell gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: It only comes into use at low speed and almost full lock - perhaps neither of those were the case. Also it doesn't have very much rear wheel steering, so maybe it did but you didn't notice. Have you watched the video of it in action? http://www.randle.co.uk/clients/One80_1.html No. Do you have a copy of that in anything other than bizarro-format so that I can watch it? [googles] Hmmm, they do turn more than I remember. OK, fair enough. -- David Cantrell | A machine for turning tea into grumpiness There is no one true indentation style, But if there were K&R would be Its Prophets. Peace be upon Their Holy Beards. |
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David Cantrell gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying: It only comes into use at low speed and almost full lock - perhaps neither of those were the case. Also it doesn't have very much rear wheel steering, so maybe it did but you didn't notice. Have you watched the video of it in action? http://www.randle.co.uk/clients/One80_1.html No. Do you have a copy of that in anything other than bizarro-format so that I can watch it? It's a WMV, ffs. One of the most common video formats on the web. Yes, Microsoft defined the format. Oh, noes. There's no MS software on this machine, yet it just works. |
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On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 12:45:05PM +0000, Adrian wrote:
David Cantrell gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: No. Do you have a copy of that in anything other than bizarro-format so that I can watch it? It's a WMV, ffs. One of the most common video formats on the web. Yes, Microsoft defined the format. Oh, noes. There's no MS software on this machine, yet it just works. It may be one of the most common formats, but it's still not common. Almost all video online is in Flash, and almost all downloadable video in some form of AVI container. -- David Cantrell | London Perl Mongers Deputy Chief Heretic What a lovely day! Now watch me spoil it for you. |
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David Cantrell gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying: No. Do you have a copy of that in anything other than bizarro-format so that I can watch it? It's a WMV, ffs. One of the most common video formats on the web. Yes, Microsoft defined the format. Oh, noes. There's no MS software on this machine, yet it just works. It may be one of the most common formats, but it's still not common. Almost all video online is in Flash, and almost all downloadable video in some form of AVI container. Sounds to me like some kind of religious objection going on... |
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On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 11:57:42AM +0000, Adrian wrote:
David Cantrell gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: It's a WMV, ffs. One of the most common video formats on the web. Yes, Microsoft defined the format. Oh, noes. There's no MS software on this machine, yet it just works. It may be one of the most common formats, but it's still not common. Almost all video online is in Flash, and almost all downloadable video in some form of AVI container. Sounds to me like some kind of religious objection going on... No, it's an "I don't have anything that can play your bizarro format and can't be arsed with tracking down software for a format that I've not needed in the three years I've had this laptop" objection. Hope that helps. -- David Cantrell | Official London Perl Mongers Bad Influence |
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In message , at 12:02:13
on Fri, 4 Mar 2011, David Cantrell remarked: It's a WMV, ffs. One of the most common video formats on the web. .... it's an "I don't have anything that can play your bizarro format and can't be arsed with tracking down software for a format that I've not needed in the three years I've had this laptop" objection. Your laptop's software vendors must have a blind spot, this is pretty standard stuff. -- Roland Perry |
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Roland Perry gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying: In message , at 12:02:13 on Fri, 4 Mar 2011, David Cantrell remarked: It's a WMV, ffs. One of the most common video formats on the web. it's an "I don't have anything that can play your bizarro format and can't be arsed with tracking down software for a format that I've not needed in the three years I've had this laptop" objection. Your laptop's software vendors must have a blind spot, this is pretty standard stuff. Given that I'm using Linux, and having no issues with WMV, I don't think it's the vendors that are to blame. |
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