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On 24 Feb, 14:53, "Recliner" wrote:
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-12565894

Seems like a bit of a storm in a tea-cup, but at least it wasn't one of
the new 2009 stock trains, despite the BBC's pic showing one.


I had thought it would be impossible to open the doors when a train
was moving, unless it was by using the emergency controls.
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George wrote on 24 February 2011
18:33:52 ...
On 24 Feb, 14:53, wrote:
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-12565894

Seems like a bit of a storm in a tea-cup, but at least it wasn't one of
the new 2009 stock trains, despite the BBC's pic showing one.


I had thought it would be impossible to open the doors when a train
was moving, unless it was by using the emergency controls.


Presumably this is true for more modern stocks, which force you to wait
seconds while the nanny electronics works out whether you've actually
stopped. It's one of the pleasures of the Paris Métro to be able to
alight before the train stops (on some lines anyway) - quite like old times.
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On Feb 25, 9:07*am, "Richard J." wrote:
George wrote on 24 February 2011
18:33:52 ...

On 24 Feb, 14:53, *wrote:
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-12565894


Seems like a bit of a storm in a tea-cup, but at least it wasn't one of
the new 2009 stock trains, despite the BBC's pic showing one.


I had thought it would be impossible to open the doors when a train
was moving, unless it was by using the emergency controls.


Presumably this is true for more modern stocks, which force you to wait
seconds while the nanny electronics works out whether you've actually
stopped. *It's one of the pleasures of the Paris M tro to be able to
alight before the train stops (on some lines anyway) - quite like old times.


See also: the District Line. Erm, allegedly.

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See also: the District Line. Erm, allegedly.


Quite definitely, in fact. Doors opening a second or so before coming to
a total standstill is relatively common on the District, although I've
never noticed more than about 2 seconds.
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"Richard J." wrote:
Presumably this is true for more modern stocks, which force you to wait
seconds while the nanny electronics works out whether you've actually
stopped. It's one of the pleasures of the Paris Métro to be able to
alight before the train stops (on some lines anyway) - quite like old times.


I tend to score most elf-n-softie legislation, but I have to say that allowing
people to get off a train while its still moving is a bit dodgy IMO. If
you slip and your leg goes between train and platform you're in deep ****.
With a routemaster its not so bad since you fall off you land in the road,
end of - and hopefully a following vehicle doesn't run you over , but with
a train it won't stop and you have a good chance of losing a limb. Or in
the case of slam door stock being whacked from behind by a door opened by
someone else.

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d wrote on 25 February 2011 09:51:22 ...
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 22:07:05 +0000
"Richard wrote:
Presumably this is true for more modern stocks, which force you to wait
seconds while the nanny electronics works out whether you've actually
stopped. It's one of the pleasures of the Paris Métro to be able to
alight before the train stops (on some lines anyway) - quite like old times.


I tend to score most elf-n-softie legislation, but I have to say that allowing
people to get off a train while its still moving is a bit dodgy IMO. If
you slip and your leg goes between train and platform you're in deep ****.
With a routemaster its not so bad since you fall off you land in the road,
end of - and hopefully a following vehicle doesn't run you over , but with
a train it won't stop and you have a good chance of losing a limb.


I'm surprised that you of all people take such a nannyish line. The
train is about to stop anyway, the action of opening the door is
passenger-initiated, and nearly all Paris Metro platforms are straight.
The risk is minimal, no more dangerous than getting on or off a moving
escalator or stepping off a kerb.

Or in the case of slam door stock being whacked from behind by a door
opened by someone else.


I always alighted from the front door of an HST carriage in the old
days, as I reckoned there was a significant risk of being hit by your
own door if you used the rear door as the doors are so wide. Slam door
stock is a different order of risk.

Incidentally, I don't think I've ever been on a D- or C-stock District
train that has opened its doors to enable me to alight while it was
still moving.
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On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 22:48:58 +0000
"Richard J." wrote:
I tend to score most elf-n-softie legislation, but I have to say that

allowing
people to get off a train while its still moving is a bit dodgy IMO. If
you slip and your leg goes between train and platform you're in deep ****.
With a routemaster its not so bad since you fall off you land in the road,
end of - and hopefully a following vehicle doesn't run you over , but with
a train it won't stop and you have a good chance of losing a limb.


I'm surprised that you of all people take such a nannyish line. The
train is about to stop anyway, the action of opening the door is
passenger-initiated, and nearly all Paris Metro platforms are straight.
The risk is minimal, no more dangerous than getting on or off a moving
escalator or stepping off a kerb.


A few years back I ran to catch a train at City Thameslink. The floor was
wet, I slipped over and before I knew it one of my legs had gone down between
the train and platform. Luckily the train wasn't moving but I guess it just
made me more aware of how quickly accidents can happen on the railway.

B2003

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