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Paul Terry[_2_] February 28th 11 03:20 PM

Oyster ticketing developments
 
In message , Mizter T
writes

Indeed, I can possibly imagine myself specifically requesting a card
without such a function from my bank (as and when it starts issuing
them). Hmm.


Hopefully your bank is better than Barclays, who now refuse to issue
debit cards without pay and wave.
--
Paul Terry

Mizter T February 28th 11 03:23 PM

Oyster ticketing developments
 

wrote:

In article ,
(Mizter T) wrote:

wrote:

I don't think I've ever been to Kings Cross St Pancras tube needing to
get a ticket/top up Oyster without queues at similar to that. I always
try to have enough credit on Oyster to escape the place before needing
to top up. Westminster isn't much better either, mainly because not
enough windows are staffed most of the time.


Head to the northern ticket hall which never seems to be that busy,
or to the FCC ticket machines - the ones in St Pancras (for
Thameslink) certainly 'do' Oyster (as do the ticket windows I
believe), not so sure about the ones at Kings Cross suburban.


So the answer is to walk a long way in the wrong direction. Terrific!


Yes Colin, it's all doom and gloom. If the KX suburban side ticket machines
do in fact 'do' Oyster, then I expect the complaint would be about how
that'd be no good when FCC trains arrive in the main KX trainshed.


Adrian February 28th 11 03:27 PM

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Paul Terry gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:

Hopefully your bank is better than Barclays, who now refuse to issue
debit cards without pay and wave.


Isn't _every_ bank better than Barclays?

Roland Perry February 28th 11 03:29 PM

Oyster ticketing developments (renewing a OnePulse)
 
In message , at 15:18:35 on
Mon, 28 Feb 2011, Mizter T remarked:
What happens w.r.t. replacements for lost and stolen OnePulse cards
might provide a clue as to what will happen in the future (e.g. either
the replacement card comes without the Oyster element, or else the
expiry date being a lot sooner than would otherwise be the case).


Presumably the "Wave" part of my OnePulse [or indeed any paywave style
card] will stop working at the expiry date, leaving it operating purely
as an Oyster. I'd be a bit miffed if the Oyster part stopped as well
(forcing me to transfer the balance to a new freestanding Oyster on
their timescale and not mine).

And I suppose they'll want another £3 for that new Oyster?

Another question - will the autotop-up linked on the Oyster part of the
card stop working, and if so when?

{Assume for the sake of argument my card expires at end of June}.
--
Roland Perry

Mizter T February 28th 11 03:39 PM

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wrote:
[snip]
My children (now over 18) were mainly able to get Day Travelcards, thereby
avoiding the queues. The game starts all over again in the autumn when my
granddaughter reaches the age of 5 but in the meantime the premium for
Travelcards has been so inflated (from Cambridge only) that they are
rarely worth buying. (1) I presume you can't get them from Nottingham at
all?


Of course, up to and including the age of 10 then your granddaughter won't
need anything if accompanied by an adult to travel for free on the
Tube/DLR/LO (and select NR routes[1]), nor would she need anything to travel
unaccompanied on buses.

She'll need a ticket if travelling on most of NR routes in London (including
basically all of them south of the river) - but that's because the TOCs
aren't kindly enough to offer free travel to accompanied children under 11.
A 11-15 Oyster photocard would be one way of dealing with this - if
travelling off-peak then the applicable cap is GBP 1.30.

Off-peak Day Travelcards for children cost GBP 3.00 - or GBP 2.00 if they
are travelling with an adult who has a F&F Railcard, Network Railcard
(weekends only), Gold Card or HM Forces Railcard - needs to be purchased
from a ticket office (though I'm guessing NR ticket machines may offer them
if the adult is buying a ticket for themself too [2]). See the bottom of
this page:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tickets/14554.aspx


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[1] Those 'legacy routes' that accepted Oyster PAYG prior to 2010, which are
almost entirely north of the river.

[2] Not in the OED... but it will be!


Roland Perry February 28th 11 03:57 PM

Oyster ticketing developments (renewing a OnePulse)
 
In message , at 15:18:35 on
Mon, 28 Feb 2011, Mizter T remarked:

Barclaycard are not offering OnePulse cards to new customers any more - see:
http://www.barclaycard-onepulse.co.uk/


That just gives a phone number which is the normal call centre for
administering the card. After going through the spanish inquisition with
a machine I eventually got through to a person, who insisted on
verifying who I was again, and then they "had no information" about any
plans for the Oyster component of the card. So a complete waste of time
(and ten minutes of 0844).
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry February 28th 11 04:00 PM

Oyster ticketing developments
 
In message , at 09:27:12
on Mon, 28 Feb 2011, remarked:

Travelcards .... I presume you can't get them from Nottingham at all?


I think the furthest out you can get one is Kettering, or maybe
Wellingborough.
--
Roland Perry

Mizter T February 28th 11 04:10 PM

Oyster ticketing developments (renewing a OnePulse)
 

"Roland Perry" wrote:

In message , at 15:18:35 on Mon,
28 Feb 2011, Mizter T remarked:

Barclaycard are not offering OnePulse cards to new customers any more -
see:
http://www.barclaycard-onepulse.co.uk/


That just gives a phone number which is the normal call centre for
administering the card. After going through the spanish inquisition with a
machine I eventually got through to a person, who insisted on verifying
who I was again, and then they "had no information" about any plans for
the Oyster component of the card. So a complete waste of time (and ten
minutes of 0844).


Sorry!

Fair play for attempting to source some hard facts, in contrast to heavily
speculative contributions. Wait and see what happens I suppose.


David Walters February 28th 11 04:15 PM

Oyster ticketing developments (renewing a OnePulse)
 
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 15:18:35 -0000, Mizter T wrote:
Barclaycard are not offering OnePulse cards to new customers any more - see:
http://www.barclaycard-onepulse.co.uk/

I expect that on expiry, the replacement card won't feature any separate
Oyster functionality (i.e. it won't be a 'combined' card) - in other words
customers will be migrated over on to a new type of card, and the product
will be discontinued.


I've got a OnePulse card which expires tonight which has been replaced
by one that lasts until July 2014 so there appears to be some life in
it yet and plenty of overlap with the new payment method being live.

Mizter T February 28th 11 04:22 PM

Oyster ticketing developments
 

"Mizter T" wrote:

wrote:

In article ,
(Mizter T) wrote:

wrote:

I don't think I've ever been to Kings Cross St Pancras tube needing to
get a ticket/top up Oyster without queues at similar to that. I always
try to have enough credit on Oyster to escape the place before needing
to top up. Westminster isn't much better either, mainly because not
enough windows are staffed most of the time.

Head to the northern ticket hall which never seems to be that busy,
or to the FCC ticket machines - the ones in St Pancras (for
Thameslink) certainly 'do' Oyster (as do the ticket windows I
believe), not so sure about the ones at Kings Cross suburban.


So the answer is to walk a long way in the wrong direction. Terrific!


Yes Colin, it's all doom and gloom. If the KX suburban side ticket
machines do in fact 'do' Oyster, then I expect the complaint would be
about how that'd be no good when FCC trains arrive in the main KX
trainshed.


Sorry, that's a bit unnecessary. Personally I'd prefer to go a little bit
out of my way in order to avoid somewhere where I knew there'd almost
certainly be a queue. I'd definitely agree with the notion that there should
be more ticket windows open in the main and western ticket halls at KXSP -
indeed I think it'd be great if there was a TfL Travel Info Centre actually
in St Pancras station (but I guess the rent would be too high) - but dealing
with things as they are (rather than how they should be), I'd opt for one of
the workarounds and advise others to do the same.



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