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This is great fun. Kudos to the urban explorers - some amazing pics:
http://www.silentuk.com/?p=2792

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On 19/04/2011 16:16, John B wrote:
This is great fun. Kudos to the urban explorers - some amazing pics:
http://www.silentuk.com/?p=2792

JB

Bunch of questions:

What is the status of that system these days?

What are its prospects?

Is perhaps Boris looking at possibly bringing it back, at least to some
degree, in line with efforts to cut carbon emissions in London?

What are the chances of getting down there and viewing it?

What are the chances of getting a ride on it, as I know that they have
passenger yorks.

Are there any manually controlled trains down there, besides the
automatic ones?

What about any sort of a signalling system down there?

(I only glanced the URL, to be honest.)


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On Apr 19, 9:12*pm, "
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On 19/04/2011 16:16, John B wrote:
This is great fun. Kudos to the urban explorers - some amazing pics:
http://www.silentuk.com/?p=2792


Bunch of questions:

What is the status of that system these days?


Mothballed.


What are its prospects?


Zilch.


Is perhaps Boris looking at possibly bringing it back, at least to some
degree, in line with efforts to cut carbon emissions in London?


No. (Though, being Boris, he's probably made some vague aside about it
being a potential secret salvation of London, so long as someone else
pays for it.)


What are the chances of getting down there and viewing it?


Break in. Except, don't.


What are the chances of getting a ride on it, as I know that they have
passenger yorks.


Every chance. If you win the EuroBillions lottery and buy it from
Royal Mail, refurbish it and run it yourself.


Are there any manually controlled trains down there, besides the
automatic ones?

What about any sort of a signalling system down there?

(I only glanced the URL, to be honest.)


A harder glance would lead you to spot the references to Sub-Brit,
whose "countless years of sitting in chairs has resulted in quite the
in depth collection of historical fact and technical nerdery regarding
the place" - at least that's the take of the urbexers. (The urbex
contingent and those of the Sub-Brit persuasion don't quite see eye to
eye, you see - though I doubt the urbex verdict on utl would be all
that glowing either!)
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On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 14:57:27 -0700 (PDT), Mizter T
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A harder glance would lead you to spot the references to Sub-Brit,
whose "countless years of sitting in chairs has resulted in quite the
in depth collection of historical fact and technical nerdery regarding
the place" - at least that's the take of the urbexers. (The urbex
contingent and those of the Sub-Brit persuasion don't quite see eye to
eye, you see - though I doubt the urbex verdict on utl would be all
that glowing either!)


I'm from neither urban exploration camp but one relatively small
building sub-brit covered had blatantly incorrect information
regarding its function, the reason being I was extremely familiar with
the site having worked on engineering a complete revamp of all
equipment there in the mid 1980's

Within an organisation of many thousands, the number of people who
were aware of this building only ever numbered a dozen or so, most are
now well into retirement, the number 'online' can't be many, and the
number who would ever know about sub-brit is just above zero

I provided them with detailed info about the building, what its true
purpose was, and where the function they claimed was carried out in
this building was really performed, a few years back I could have even
provided them with all the technical drawings and photos of the inside
of the building, especially as it ceased as an operational building in
the late 1990's. Hell I could have even given them a guided tour!

They plainly couldn't give a stuff as they didn't even acknowledge
receipt and the glaring errors are still there.


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On 2011\04\21 00:01, The Other Mike wrote:

They plainly couldn't give a stuff as they didn't even acknowledge
receipt and the glaring errors are still there.


Maybe they just didn't get your email.


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On Apr 21, 12:01*am, The Other Mike
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On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 14:57:27 -0700 (PDT), Mizter T

wrote:
A harder glance would lead you to spot the references to Sub-Brit,
whose "countless years of sitting in chairs has resulted in quite the
in depth collection of historical fact and technical nerdery regarding
the place" - at least that's the take of the urbexers. (The urbex
contingent and those of the Sub-Brit persuasion don't quite see eye to
eye, you see - though I doubt the urbex verdict on utl would be all
that glowing either!)


I'm from neither urban exploration camp but one relatively small
building sub-brit covered had blatantly incorrect information
regarding its function, the reason being I was extremely familiar with
the site having worked on engineering a complete revamp of all
equipment there in the mid 1980's

Within an organisation of many thousands, *the number of people who
were aware of this building only ever numbered a dozen or so, most are
now well into retirement, the number 'online' can't be many, and the
number who would ever know about sub-brit is just above zero

I provided them with detailed info about the building, what its true
purpose was, and where the function they claimed was carried out in
this building was really performed, a few years back I could have even
provided them with all the technical drawings and photos of the inside
of the building, especially as it ceased as an operational building in
the late 1990's. * Hell I could have even given them a guided tour!

They plainly couldn't give a stuff as they didn't even acknowledge
receipt and the glaring errors are still there.

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You say that you contacted Subbrit about a location where they had it
wrong, care to enlighten us as to where and what?
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On 19/04/2011 21:12, wrote:
On 19/04/2011 16:16, John B wrote:
This is great fun. Kudos to the urban explorers - some amazing pics:
http://www.silentuk.com/?p=2792

JB

Bunch of questions:

What is the status of that system these days?


Defunct. Perhaps nominally mothballed.

What are its prospects?


Vanishingly small.

Is perhaps Boris looking at possibly bringing it back, at least to some
degree, in line with efforts to cut carbon emissions in London?


Boris/Ken* will convert it** into a free 500 mph maglev interchanging
with the Crystal Palace Tramlink extension. The other one won't.

* delete according to taste
** subject to someone else paying

What are the chances of getting down there and viewing it?


None, unless you run the Royal Mail.

What are the chances of getting a ride on it, as I know that they have
passenger yorks.


We tried asking on an official visit, and it was made very clear that
there was not any chance at all, even when it was still operational.

Are there any manually controlled trains down there, besides the
automatic ones?


Pass.

What about any sort of a signalling system down there?


IIRC there are websites with lots of details of how it worked.
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"Basil Jet" wrote
John Salmon wrote:


I personally travelled (with an organised group) from Mount Pleasant to
Whitechapel and back on the 10th March 1994 in the 14-seat 'VIP' coach. I
seem to recall we had to detrain whilst the train ran round the turning
circle at Whitechapel.


Was this part of Open House? How did you find out about it? I don't recall
it being mentioned here.


Four trips in 1994 were organised through the Branch Line Society. I think
it entailed us all joining a 'Friends of the Post Office' (or some such)
group. If your question related to the 2008 trip, I only know about it
because a friend went - I don't know how that trip was organised.




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