The standard of railway-related writing has, for some while, been plummeting
steadily lower and we often lambast the BBC for their reporting but today's
efforts in the London "Evening Standard" by their Transport Correspondent,
Dick Murray, are spectacularly dismal.

Whilst appreciating that there's a need not to baffle the general public
with too much technobabble, there really is no excuse for the following load
of tosh, from his article about Tuesday night's shambles on the Jubilee
line:

"Instead of using traffic lights trains are linked by radio waves which
'talk' to trackside responders. These in turn send a signal to a computer in
the train engine to speed up or stop."

"One cut was to remove the reverse facility for trains. This means they
cannot circumvent any stranded carriages as they cannot be switched at
points to travel on the opposite track."

"Last night's problem appears to be more straightforward, with a piece of
signal box falling off a carriage and on to the track, short-circuiting the
power."


Traffic lights, train engines (on the Underground!), pieces of signal *box*
falling off? What has the man been on?

On Apr 20, 10:40*pm, "Jack Taylor" wrote:
The standard of railway-related writing has, for some while, been plummeting
steadily lower and we often lambast the BBC for their reporting but today's
efforts in the London "Evening Standard" by their Transport Correspondent,
Dick Murray, are spectacularly dismal.

Whilst appreciating that there's a need not to baffle the general public
with too much technobabble, there really is no excuse for the following load
of tosh, from his article about Tuesday night's shambles on the Jubilee
line:

"Instead of using traffic lights trains are linked by radio waves which
'talk' to trackside responders. These in turn send a signal to a computer in
the train engine to speed up or stop."

"One cut was to remove the reverse facility for trains. This means they
cannot circumvent any stranded carriages as they cannot be switched at
points to travel on the opposite track."

"Last night's problem appears to be more straightforward, with a piece of
signal box falling off a carriage and on to the track, short-circuiting the
power."

Traffic lights, train engines (on the Underground!), pieces of signal *box*
falling off? What has the man been on?

Yes, it was indeed truly execrable. It would be fascinating to know
what actually happened, but no danger of that from reading the
Standard, which yet again gas been found to be journalistically very
sub-Standard.

RPM

On Apr 20, 11:08*pm, RPM wrote:
On Apr 20, 10:40*pm, "Jack Taylor" wrote:



The standard of railway-related writing has, for some while, been plummeting
steadily lower and we often lambast the BBC for their reporting but today's
efforts in the London "Evening Standard" by their Transport Correspondent,
Dick Murray, are spectacularly dismal.

Whilst appreciating that there's a need not to baffle the general public
with too much technobabble, there really is no excuse for the following load
of tosh, from his article about Tuesday night's shambles on the Jubilee
line:

"Instead of using traffic lights trains are linked by radio waves which
'talk' to trackside responders. These in turn send a signal to a computer in
the train engine to speed up or stop."

"One cut was to remove the reverse facility for trains. This means they
cannot circumvent any stranded carriages as they cannot be switched at
points to travel on the opposite track."

"Last night's problem appears to be more straightforward, with a piece of
signal box falling off a carriage and on to the track, short-circuiting the
power."

Traffic lights, train engines (on the Underground!), pieces of signal *box*
falling off? What has the man been on?

Yes, it was indeed truly execrable. It would be fascinating to know
what actually happened, but no danger of that from reading the
Standard, which yet again gas been found to be journalistically very
sub-Standard.

RPM

Have a look here http://districtdave.proboards.com/in...?board=jubilee
for what really happened, though there is a bit of jargon,

The Other Tony in Walsall

On 21/04/2011 08:02, tony wrote:
On Apr 20, 11:08 pm, wrote:
On Apr 20, 10:40 pm, "Jack wrote:



The standard of railway-related writing has, for some while, been plummeting
steadily lower and we often lambast the BBC for their reporting but today's
efforts in the London "Evening Standard" by their Transport Correspondent,
Dick Murray, are spectacularly dismal.

Whilst appreciating that there's a need not to baffle the general public
with too much technobabble, there really is no excuse for the following load
of tosh, from his article about Tuesday night's shambles on the Jubilee
line:

"Instead of using traffic lights trains are linked by radio waves which
'talk' to trackside responders. These in turn send a signal to a computer in
the train engine to speed up or stop."

"One cut was to remove the reverse facility for trains. This means they
cannot circumvent any stranded carriages as they cannot be switched at
points to travel on the opposite track."

"Last night's problem appears to be more straightforward, with a piece of
signal box falling off a carriage and on to the track, short-circuiting the
power."

Traffic lights, train engines (on the Underground!), pieces of signal *box*
falling off? What has the man been on?

Yes, it was indeed truly execrable. It would be fascinating to know
what actually happened, but no danger of that from reading the
Standard, which yet again gas been found to be journalistically very
sub-Standard.

RPM

Have a look here http://districtdave.proboards.com/in...?board=jubilee
for what really happened, though there is a bit of jargon,


I hadn't looked at that site for a while. the first item reads:

It is with great sadness that we have to announce that Dave Maloney,
known to us all as "District Dave" and the first founder of this site,
passed away peacefully at his home this morning following several months
illness.

RIP.


--
Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.
Railway Miscellany at www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail

In message , at 08:24:16 on Thu, 21
Apr 2011, Graeme Wall remarked:
Have a look here http://districtdave.proboards.com/in...?board=jubilee
for what really happened, though there is a bit of jargon,


I hadn't looked at that site for a while. the first item reads:

It is with great sadness that we have to announce that Dave Maloney,
known to us all as "District Dave" and the first founder of this site,
passed away peacefully at his home this morning following several
months illness.

Dated a little over a month ago. I'm sure it was reported here, or was
it utl?
--
Roland Perry

On 21/04/2011 08:35, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 08:24:16 on Thu, 21
Apr 2011, Graeme Wall remarked:
Have a look here
http://districtdave.proboards.com/in...?board=jubilee
for what really happened, though there is a bit of jargon,


I hadn't looked at that site for a while. the first item reads:

It is with great sadness that we have to announce that Dave Maloney,
known to us all as "District Dave" and the first founder of this site,
passed away peacefully at his home this morning following several
months illness.

Dated a little over a month ago. I'm sure it was reported here, or was
it utl?

The latter probably, I'm not subscribed to utl.

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.
Railway Miscellany at www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail

In article , (Roland
Perry) wrote:

In message , at 08:24:16 on
Thu, 21 Apr 2011, Graeme Wall remarked:
Have a look here
http://districtdave.proboards.com/in...?board=jubilee
for what really happened, though there is a bit of jargon,


I hadn't looked at that site for a while. the first item reads:

It is with great sadness that we have to announce that Dave Maloney,
known to us all as "District Dave" and the first founder of this site,
passed away peacefully at his home this morning following several
months illness.

Dated a little over a month ago. I'm sure it was reported here, or
was it utl?

Here is utl, Roland.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

"RPM" wrote in message
...
Yes, it was indeed truly execrable. It would be fascinating to know
what actually happened, but no danger of that from reading the
Standard, which yet again gas been found to be journalistically very
sub-Standard.

A follow up tonight from Dick Murray in the "Evening Standard", regarding a
broken power shoe that disabled a Jubilee line train just short of Stanmore.
Actually, a much better written article than last week's - although he still
managed to refer back to the incident mentioned in the earlier article and
repeated the assertion that "a signal box" fell off the train!

On Apr 27, 10:48*pm, "Jack Taylor" wrote:

"RPM" *wrote:

Yes, it was indeed truly execrable. It would be fascinating to know
what actually happened, but no danger of that from reading the
Standard, which yet again gas been found to be journalistically very
sub-Standard.

A follow up tonight from Dick Murray in the "Evening Standard", regarding a
broken power shoe that disabled a Jubilee line train just short of Stanmore.
Actually, a much better written article than last week's - although he still
managed to refer back to the incident mentioned in the earlier article and
repeated the assertion that "a signal box" fell off the train!

I don't think most lay people would remotely have a problem with the
"signal box" description - it's a box that contains signalling kit,
innit. "Signalling boxes" in the conventional sense, such as they
exist on the Underground, aren't on the whole very visible to the
travelling public on the network.

On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 14:59:15 -0700 (PDT), Mizter T
wrote:


On Apr 27, 10:48*pm, "Jack Taylor" wrote:

"RPM" *wrote:

Yes, it was indeed truly execrable. It would be fascinating to know
what actually happened, but no danger of that from reading the
Standard, which yet again gas been found to be journalistically very
sub-Standard.

A follow up tonight from Dick Murray in the "Evening Standard", regarding a
broken power shoe that disabled a Jubilee line train just short of Stanmore.
Actually, a much better written article than last week's - although he still
managed to refer back to the incident mentioned in the earlier article and
repeated the assertion that "a signal box" fell off the train!

I don't think most lay people would remotely have a problem with the
"signal box" description - it's a box that contains signalling kit,
innit. "Signalling boxes" in the conventional sense, such as they
exist on the Underground, aren't on the whole very visible to the
travelling public on the network.

(Ignoring what might actually now be inside them)
Wembley Park ?
Edgware Road ?