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[email protected] May 4th 11 01:52 PM

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On Wed, 4 May 2011 14:29:53 +0100
"Ophelia" wrote:
Why do you ask, you don't think your final sentence demonstrated your
complete
mastery of the art of ****wittedness? Well please post some more, I need
a laugh.


\*point* boltar is trying to appear tough again g


Laughing at an idiot is a sign of being tough? Thats a new one.

B2003


JNugent[_5_] May 4th 11 02:03 PM

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On 04/05/2011 14:52, d wrote:

wrote:


Why do you ask, you don't think your final sentence demonstrated your
complete mastery of the art of ****wittedness? Well please post some
more, I need a laugh.


\*point* boltar is trying to appear tough againg


Laughing at an idiot is a sign of being tough? Thats a new one.


Surely the idiots are the ones who don't know (and perhaps don't care) what
taxis are for and who consequently are taken by surprise and get stuck behind
a cab when it inevitably stops to pick up or set down a passenger?

[email protected] May 4th 11 02:08 PM

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On Wed, 04 May 2011 15:03:49 +0100
JNugent wrote:
Surely the idiots are the ones who don't know (and perhaps don't care) what
taxis are for and who consequently are taken by surprise and get stuck behind
a cab when it inevitably stops to pick up or set down a passenger?


You've made your silly speach and we all know where you're coming from so
how about putting a sock in it Mr Cabbie?

B2003


JNugent[_5_] May 4th 11 02:38 PM

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On 04/05/2011 15:08, d wrote:

wrote:


Surely the idiots are the ones who don't know (and perhaps don't care) what
taxis are for and who consequently are taken by surprise and get stuck behind
a cab when it inevitably stops to pick up or set down a passenger?


You've made your silly speach and we all know where you're coming from so
how about putting a sock in it Mr Cabbie?


I know you don't mean to be, but you're funny.

[email protected] May 4th 11 02:56 PM

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On Wed, 04 May 2011 15:38:07 +0100
JNugent wrote:
I know you don't mean to be, but you're funny.


Well I'm glad to be of service. The same can't be said about you however -
an object of pity maybe, spouting rubbish and not even realising it.

B2003


Basil Jet[_2_] May 4th 11 03:32 PM

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On 2011\05\04 15:56, d wrote:
On Wed, 04 May 2011 15:38:07 +0100
wrote:
I know you don't mean to be, but you're funny.


Well I'm glad to be of service. The same can't be said about you however -
an object of pity maybe, spouting rubbish and not even realising it.


head in hands

[email protected] May 4th 11 03:46 PM

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On Wed, 04 May 2011 16:32:55 +0100
Basil Jet wrote:
On 2011\05\04 15:56, d wrote:
On Wed, 04 May 2011 15:38:07 +0100
wrote:
I know you don't mean to be, but you're funny.


Well I'm glad to be of service. The same can't be said about you however -
an object of pity maybe, spouting rubbish and not even realising it.


head in hands


So you agree with his assertion that taxis stopping wherever they damn well
please is not an issue and other road users should just lump it?

Tell you what, here's the junction:

http://bit.ly/jV1w5i

He stopped in the middle of the road on the right just before the crossing,
blocking it for the rest of the traffic which then backed up back over the
junction. You think thats ok? Take your time.

B2003


Mr Pounder May 4th 11 03:51 PM

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wrote in message
...
On Tue, 3 May 2011 21:10:21 +0100
"Mr Pounder" wrote:
wrote in message
...
I'm guessing there isn't one. Or they're exempt. Otherwise how can a
black
cab stop halfway across a signalled junction in the middle of the road,
on
a
corner, on double red lines in central london, blocking the traffic
behind
to
pick up a passenger and some plods in a van nearby do absolutely bugger
all?

B2003


Because it is a taxi and that is what taxis do?
Was the experience traumatic for you?
Were you all upset?
Did you **** in your pants?
Hot flush?
Get angry?
Wished you lived 250 miles north of the great ******** of London?
Wished you did not live in the great ******** of the south?


I don't know arse pounder, why not make up something that makes you feel
better because you can't visit Soho as often as you'd like.

B2003


I pray that I never see the south again.










Steve Firth May 4th 11 06:37 PM

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Mr Pounder wrote:

I pray that I never see the south again.


I'm sure that the feeling is reciprocated.

Mr Pounder May 4th 11 08:03 PM

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"Steve Firth" wrote in message
. ..
Mr Pounder wrote:

I pray that I never see the south again.


I'm sure that the feeling is reciprocated.


Why did I just know that you would tag my post?
Why did I just know that you would use those words?
Tomorrow morning take a look inside your kettle.
Take a look at the **** inside it.
Then, you have a nice brew Mr Firth. I guess that you drink tea. Peasants
drink tea, Mr Firth.
Then, you enjoy your morning drive into your traffic congested ********.
You never did answer my question. Would you like to kiss me?





alan.holmes May 4th 11 08:03 PM

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wrote in message
...
On Wed, 04 May 2011 00:44:44 +0100
JNugent wrote:
On 03/05/2011 20:56, Neil Williams wrote:
On Tue, 03 May 2011 19:51:18 +0100, JNugent
wrote:
What do you mean?

Taxis often stop to pick up or drop off where they are causing an
obstruction. Is this also legal?


Of course it is.

What's the alternative?


Ooo I know , how about they stop where they DON'T cause an obstruction!

Radical idea but you never know - it might just work.


But when a bus stops doesn't that constitute and obscruction?

Alan



B2003





Mr Pounder May 4th 11 08:33 PM

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wrote in message
...
On Wed, 04 May 2011 13:40:09 +0100
JNugent wrote:
Relax. The answer is already known: it wouldn't work. There is nowhere one
can stop on the highway without "obstructing" traffic behind. To argue
that
no such obstruction is permissible is to argue that taxi drivers must not
be
allowed to ply their trade and that taxi passengers are not entitled to a
service.


Don't be an ass all your life. Is your dad a taxi driver by any chance?

B2003


I was for 19 years.
Maybe you should try it sometime?
But maybe not, you have not got the guts.







Mr Pounder May 4th 11 08:35 PM

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wrote in message
...
On Tue, 03 May 2011 19:36:02 +0100
JNugent wrote:
On 03/05/2011 14:56, d wrote:

I'm guessing there isn't one. Or they're exempt. Otherwise how can a
black
cab stop halfway across a signalled junction in the middle of the road,
on a
corner, on double red lines in central london, blocking the traffic
behind to
pick up a passenger and some plods in a van nearby do absolutely bugger
all?


B2003


Do you know what a taxi is for?

I take it you don't complain when a bus stops at a bus-stop?


Bus stops arn't generally sighted on corners in the middle of a traffic
light controlled junction are they you brainless ****wit?

The whole world is a taxi-driver's taxi-stop (or at least, that bit of it
which is within his licensed area). Stopping to pick passengers up is what
taxis do.


Passengers are capable of walking an extra 10 metres if the cap stops up
the road in a safe position.

B2003


Cap?






Tom Anderson May 4th 11 09:39 PM

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On Tue, 3 May 2011, GT wrote:

"Adrian" wrote in message
...
"GT" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

Double red lines? What are they?


They signify "No Stopping" on London's designated "Red Routes".

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/roadusers/fine...ons/10185.aspx


Oh and whats wrong with the standard double yellow lines - they mean no
stopping too!


FFS... No, they don't.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum...ssets/@dg/@en/
documents/digitalasset/dg_070563.pdf


Lets hope there aren't any traffic jams or traffic lights along those routes
then - only taxis and blue badge holders would avoid prosecution!


And cyclists!

tom

--
Voltan tires of life upon Super Secret Sea-Base Beta. Perhaps this
Holloway Road of which you speak is the solution. Voltan shall investigate
it during Voltans campaign to overrun London. (This is but a part of
Voltans plan for world domination.) -- Voltan

Tom Anderson May 4th 11 09:41 PM

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On Tue, 3 May 2011, Mr Pounder wrote:

wrote in message
...
I'm guessing there isn't one. Or they're exempt. Otherwise how can a black
cab stop halfway across a signalled junction in the middle of the road, on
a
corner, on double red lines in central london, blocking the traffic behind
to
pick up a passenger and some plods in a van nearby do absolutely bugger
all?

B2003


Because it is a taxi and that is what taxis do?
Was the experience traumatic for you?
Were you all upset?
Did you **** in your pants?
Hot flush?
Get angry?
Wished you lived 250 miles north of the great ******** of London?
Wished you did not live in the great ******** of the south?

Which one?
I'm interested.


Boltar, i knew you were a dickhead, but i didn't realise you were a
dickhead who cross-posts to urd. That really is special. My hat is off to
you.

tom

--
Voltan tires of life upon Super Secret Sea-Base Beta. Perhaps this
Holloway Road of which you speak is the solution. Voltan shall investigate
it during Voltans campaign to overrun London. (This is but a part of
Voltans plan for world domination.) -- Voltan

Tom Anderson May 4th 11 09:51 PM

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On Wed, 4 May 2011, Basil Jet wrote:

On 2011\05\04 15:56, d wrote:
On Wed, 04 May 2011 15:38:07 +0100
wrote:
I know you don't mean to be, but you're funny.


Well I'm glad to be of service. The same can't be said about you however -
an object of pity maybe, spouting rubbish and not even realising it.


head in hands


I got the impression from this exchange that Boltar and Nugent had never
crossed swords before. Am i imagining that? That would be incredible if it
was true - they're two of the main ****s on UK usenet, so i'd assume
they'd know each other well. Do they not have some sort of club, with a
newsletter and so on?

tom

--
Voltan tires of life upon Super Secret Sea-Base Beta. Perhaps this
Holloway Road of which you speak is the solution. Voltan shall investigate
it during Voltans campaign to overrun London. (This is but a part of
Voltans plan for world domination.) -- Voltan

JNugent[_5_] May 5th 11 12:17 AM

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On 04/05/2011 22:51, Tom Anderson wrote:
On Wed, 4 May 2011, Basil Jet wrote:

On 2011\05\04 15:56, d wrote:
On Wed, 04 May 2011 15:38:07 +0100
wrote:
I know you don't mean to be, but you're funny.

Well I'm glad to be of service. The same can't be said about you however -
an object of pity maybe, spouting rubbish and not even realising it.


head in hands


I got the impression from this exchange that Boltar and Nugent had never
crossed swords before. Am i imagining that? That would be incredible if it
was true - they're two of the main ****s on UK usenet, so i'd assume they'd
know each other well. Do they not have some sort of club, with a newsletter
and so on?

tom


The weirdest thing about your post is that you imagine it to be witty and
clever. You probably even imagine yourself to be witty and clever.

Robin9 May 5th 11 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alan.holmes (Post 119819)

But when a bus stops doesn't that constitute an obstruction?

Alan

A very good point. In my experience buses hold up traffic far more than taxis and in general are a far bigger cause of congestion than anyone else.

Eric[_3_] May 5th 11 07:08 AM

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On 2011-05-04, d wrote:
....
Passengers are capable of walking an extra 10 metres if the cap stops up
the road in a safe position.

B2003


Not all of them!

E.

GT May 5th 11 08:29 AM

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"Tom Anderson" wrote in message
rth.li...
On Tue, 3 May 2011, GT wrote:

"Adrian" wrote in message
...
"GT" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

Double red lines? What are they?

They signify "No Stopping" on London's designated "Red Routes".

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/roadusers/fine...ons/10185.aspx

Oh and whats wrong with the standard double yellow lines - they mean no
stopping too!

FFS... No, they don't.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum...ssets/@dg/@en/
documents/digitalasset/dg_070563.pdf


Lets hope there aren't any traffic jams or traffic lights along those
routes
then - only taxis and blue badge holders would avoid prosecution!


And cyclists!


Red lights and jams aren't a hold up for them - they just undertake queues
and go through red lights.



[email protected] May 5th 11 08:45 AM

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On Wed, 4 May 2011 21:33:51 +0100
"Mr Pounder" wrote:
I was for 19 years.
Maybe you should try it sometime?


What for? I have a career, I don't need a blue collar job.

But maybe not, you have not got the guts.


Guts as in the 9 months pregnant beer belly that most of you lot seem to
sport? No, you're right, I don't have those sort of guts.

B2003



Bod May 5th 11 08:47 AM

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On 05/05/2011 09:45, d wrote:
On Wed, 4 May 2011 21:33:51 +0100
"Mr wrote:
I was for 19 years.
Maybe you should try it sometime?


What for? I have a career, I don't need a blue collar job.

But maybe not, you have not got the guts.


Guts as in the 9 months pregnant beer belly that most of you lot seem to
sport? No, you're right, I don't have those sort of guts.

B2003


Got a six pack (not lager), have we? :-)

[email protected] May 5th 11 08:48 AM

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On Wed, 4 May 2011 22:41:45 +0100
Tom Anderson wrote:
Boltar, i knew you were a dickhead, but i didn't realise you were a
dickhead who cross-posts to urd. That really is special. My hat is off to
you.


Don't take it off for too long, your brains might fall out.

B2003


[email protected] May 5th 11 08:52 AM

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On Thu, 05 May 2011 01:17:58 +0100
JNugent wrote:
I got the impression from this exchange that Boltar and Nugent had never
crossed swords before. Am i imagining that? That would be incredible if it
was true - they're two of the main ****s on UK usenet, so i'd assume they'd
know each other well. Do they not have some sort of club, with a newsletter
and so on?

tom


The weirdest thing about your post is that you imagine it to be witty and
clever. You probably even imagine yourself to be witty and clever.


He's a utl lurker who's a bit over excited because he's just gone national
on urd. If I crossposted to nyc.transit too he'd probably require
resuscitation.

B2003


[email protected] May 5th 11 09:11 AM

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On Thu, 05 May 2011 09:47:32 +0100
Bod wrote:
But maybe not, you have not got the guts.


Guts as in the 9 months pregnant beer belly that most of you lot seem to
sport? No, you're right, I don't have those sort of guts.

B2003


Got a six pack (not lager), have we? :-)


I wish :) No , just a normal sized stomach - one that doesn't arrive through
a doorway 10 seconds before the rest of me unlike most cabbies.

B2003


Bod May 5th 11 09:14 AM

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On 05/05/2011 10:11, d wrote:
On Thu, 05 May 2011 09:47:32 +0100
wrote:
But maybe not, you have not got the guts.

Guts as in the 9 months pregnant beer belly that most of you lot seem to
sport? No, you're right, I don't have those sort of guts.

B2003


Got a six pack (not lager), have we? :-)


I wish :) No , just a normal sized stomach - one that doesn't arrive through
a doorway 10 seconds before the rest of me unlike most cabbies.

B2003


:-)

Bruce[_2_] May 5th 11 09:19 AM

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JNugent wrote:

On 04/05/2011 22:51, Tom Anderson wrote:
On Wed, 4 May 2011, Basil Jet wrote:

On 2011\05\04 15:56, d wrote:
On Wed, 04 May 2011 15:38:07 +0100
wrote:
I know you don't mean to be, but you're funny.

Well I'm glad to be of service. The same can't be said about you however -
an object of pity maybe, spouting rubbish and not even realising it.

head in hands


I got the impression from this exchange that Boltar and Nugent had never
crossed swords before. Am i imagining that? That would be incredible if it
was true - they're two of the main ****s on UK usenet, so i'd assume they'd
know each other well. Do they not have some sort of club, with a newsletter
and so on?

tom


The weirdest thing about your post is that you imagine it to be witty and
clever. You probably even imagine yourself to be witty and clever.



'Witty and clever' accurately describes Tom's contributions here.

Whereas 'petulant and immature' seems accurately to describe yours.


David Cantrell May 5th 11 11:13 AM

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On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 04:07:26PM +0100, Basil Jet wrote:
On 2011\05\03 15:13, Mr. Benn wrote:
and for using their horns at
10 o'clock at night in residential areas.

I've never heard a taxi do that, but minicabs do that habitually despite
having no exemption.


Not round where I live they don't. But then, where I live, we have
mobile phones. Perhaps you live in some part of ruralistan which has no
functioning network.

--
David Cantrell | semi-evolved ape-thing

"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed
(and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an
endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary" -- H. L. Mencken

David Cantrell May 5th 11 11:20 AM

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On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 09:10:21PM +0100, Mr Pounder wrote:
wrote in message
...
I'm guessing there isn't one. Or they're exempt. Otherwise how can a black
cab stop halfway across a signalled junction in the middle of the road, on
a
corner, on double red lines in central london, blocking the traffic behind
to
pick up a passenger and some plods in a van nearby do absolutely bugger
all?

Because it is a taxi and that is what taxis do?


He does have a point. Stopping half way across a signalled junction is
particularly inconsiderate of the driver, and it was also singularly
stupid of the passenger to be standing in the middle of a junction to
hail a cab, instead of standing at the side of one of the roads leading
to the junction.

Mind you, I also suspect that he has either made the story up entirely
or at least rather embellished it just so he can spew some ignorant hate.

Was the experience traumatic for you?
Were you all upset?
Did you **** in your pants?
Hot flush?
Get angry?
Wished you lived 250 miles north of the great ******** of London?
Wished you did not live in the great ******** of the south?

Which one?


You sure it was only one?

--
David Cantrell | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david

You can't spell AWESOME without ME!

[email protected] May 5th 11 11:57 AM

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On Thu, 05 May 2011 12:20:34 +0100
David Cantrell wrote:
Mind you, I also suspect that he has either made the story up entirely


No, sorry. I'd come up with something rather more imaginative if I was
to do that.

or at least rather embellished it just so he can spew some ignorant hate.


Criticising cabbies is a liberal lefty hate crime now is it? Oh the irony! :)

B2003


Mr Pounder May 5th 11 02:53 PM

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wrote in message
...
On Wed, 4 May 2011 21:33:51 +0100
"Mr Pounder" wrote:
I was for 19 years.
Maybe you should try it sometime?


What for? I have a career, I don't need a blue collar job.

But maybe not, you have not got the guts.


Guts as in the 9 months pregnant beer belly that most of you lot seem to
sport? No, you're right, I don't have those sort of guts.

B2003


No gut on me mate, never has been.







JNugent[_5_] May 5th 11 03:14 PM

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On 05/05/2011 09:52, d wrote:

wrote:


I got the impression from this exchange that Boltar and Nugent had never
crossed swords before. Am i imagining that? That would be incredible if it
was true - they're two of the main ****s on UK usenet, so i'd assume they'd
know each other well. Do they not have some sort of club, with a newsletter
and so on?


The weirdest thing about your post is that you imagine it to be witty and
clever. You probably even imagine yourself to be witty and clever.


He's a utl lurker who's a bit over excited because he's just gone national
on urd. If I crossposted to nyc.transit too he'd probably require
resuscitation.


Thanks for the info.

Mizter T May 6th 11 11:43 AM

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"Bruce" wrote:

"GT" wrote:

"Bruce" wrote:


"GT" wrote:
Double red lines? What are they?

They signify "No Stopping" on London's designated "Red Routes".
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/roadusers/fine...ons/10185.aspx


I have read that page, including reference to the PCNs, but are they
actually a recognised, enforceable highway code entity, or just London
local
authority doing what it likes?


I believe specific legislation was passed - the Traffic Management Act
2004. This Act made specific reference only to London, however there
are also Red Routes in Birmingham.

The Act also refers to powers under the Highways Act 1980 and the Road
Traffic Regulation Act 1984.

This is far from being a complete answer to your question and I
present it only as a possible starting point for your research.


Red Routes in London have their genesis in the Road Traffic Act 1991, which
also established a new body, the Traffic Director for London (under the
Department of Transport), who was to establish and take control of a
Priority Route Network in London. The role of the Traffic Director for
London was subsumed by TfL on it's foundation in 2000, and the Priority
Route Network became the TLRN (or Transport for London Road Network -
initially called the Greater London Road Network I think).

The Red Routes in Birmingham will of course have some sort of statutory
basis - no mention of what that is on the Red Route section of the
Birmingham City Council website, but I'm sure if GT were to email them
then they'd reply with the required information.


Bruce[_2_] May 6th 11 02:32 PM

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"Mizter T" wrote:
"Bruce" wrote:
"GT" wrote:
"Bruce" wrote:
"GT" wrote:
Double red lines? What are they?

They signify "No Stopping" on London's designated "Red Routes".
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/roadusers/fine...ons/10185.aspx

I have read that page, including reference to the PCNs, but are they
actually a recognised, enforceable highway code entity, or just London
local
authority doing what it likes?


I believe specific legislation was passed - the Traffic Management Act
2004. This Act made specific reference only to London, however there
are also Red Routes in Birmingham.

The Act also refers to powers under the Highways Act 1980 and the Road
Traffic Regulation Act 1984.

This is far from being a complete answer to your question and I
present it only as a possible starting point for your research.


Red Routes in London have their genesis in the Road Traffic Act 1991, which
also established a new body, the Traffic Director for London (under the
Department of Transport), who was to establish and take control of a
Priority Route Network in London. The role of the Traffic Director for
London was subsumed by TfL on it's foundation in 2000, and the Priority
Route Network became the TLRN (or Transport for London Road Network -
initially called the Greater London Road Network I think).

The Red Routes in Birmingham will of course have some sort of statutory
basis - no mention of what that is on the Red Route section of the
Birmingham City Council website, but I'm sure if GT were to email them
then they'd reply with the required information.



It is interesting that each individual Red Route in London required a
Traffic Order to be passed by Parliament, implying that the powers of
the Traffic Director are somewhat limited. I would expect that a
similar Order(s) was/were needed for Birmingham. But as I have made
clear, it is up to GT (or anyone else interested) to do their own
detailed research, as I have only skimmed the subject.




Stephen Bagwell May 7th 11 07:02 AM

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On 6 May, 15:32, Bruce wrote:
"Mizter T" wrote:
"Bruce" wrote:
"GT" wrote:
"Bruce" wrote:
"GT" wrote:
Double red lines? What are they?


They signify "No Stopping" on London's designated "Red Routes".
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/roadusers/fine...ons/10185.aspx


I have read that page, including reference to the PCNs, but are they
actually a recognised, enforceable highway code entity, or just London
local
authority doing what it likes?


I believe specific legislation was passed - the Traffic Management Act
2004. *This Act made specific reference only to London, however there
are also Red Routes in Birmingham.


The Act also refers to powers under the Highways Act 1980 and the Road
Traffic Regulation Act 1984.


This is far from being a complete answer to your question and I
present it only as a possible starting point for your research.


Red Routes in London have their genesis in the Road Traffic Act 1991, which
also established a new body, the Traffic Director for London (under the
Department of Transport), who was to establish and take control of a
Priority Route Network in London. The role of the Traffic Director for
London was subsumed by TfL on it's foundation in 2000, and the Priority
Route Network became the TLRN (or Transport for London Road Network -
initially called the Greater London Road Network I think).


The Red Routes in Birmingham will of course have some sort of statutory
basis - no mention of what that is on the Red Route section of the
Birmingham City Council website, but I'm sure if GT were to email them
then they'd reply with the required information.


It is interesting that each individual Red Route in London required a
Traffic Order to be passed by Parliament, implying that the powers of
the Traffic Director are somewhat limited. *I would expect that a
similar Order(s) was/were needed for Birmingham. *But as I have made
clear, it is up to GT (or anyone else interested) to do their own
detailed research, as I have only skimmed the subject.- Hide quoted text -

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Is a "Black Cab" without a passenger allowed in a "bus lane"

Saw a "mini-cab" stop on zig-zag lines last night.

Also a mini-cab driver had no clue that he should have had headlights
not side lights on when driving on a motorway

Bruce[_2_] May 7th 11 09:43 AM

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Stephen Bagwell wrote:

Also a mini-cab driver had no clue that he should have had headlights
not side lights on when driving on a motorway.



Driving with only sidelights on is never a good idea, but I wasn't
aware of any statute prohibiting their use on motorways.



Steve Firth May 7th 11 10:03 AM

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Bruce wrote:

Stephen Bagwell wrote:

Also a mini-cab driver had no clue that he should have had headlights
not side lights on when driving on a motorway.



Driving with only sidelights on is never a good idea, but I wasn't
aware of any statute prohibiting their use on motorways.


Tssk, Road Vehicle Lighting Regulations 1989

"25.- (1) Save as provided in paragraph (2), no person shall use, or
cause or permit to be used, on a road a vehicle which is fitted with
obligatory dipped-beam headlamps unless every such lamp is kept lit-"

paragraph (2) states that the dipped beam headlamps do not need to be
lit *if*:

[summary, not verbatim]

(a)+(b) main-beam is in use, or the visibility is seriously reduced and
foglamps are in use *provided* that such foglamps are not more than
400mm from the outer edge of the vehicle.

(c) vehicle is being towed
(d) Vehicle is ploughing snow
(e) Vehicle is parked


Which means all those tools who drive around on sidelights are not
legal.

All those tools who drive around with foglamps on when there is no fog,
likewise.

Mizter T May 7th 11 10:23 AM

Black cab highway code
 

On May 7, 8:02*am, Stephen Bagwell wrote:
[snip]
Is a "Black Cab" without a passenger allowed in a "bus lane"


Yes.

Roland Perry May 7th 11 11:12 AM

Black cab highway code
 
In message , at 11:03:38 on
Sat, 7 May 2011, Steve Firth remarked:

Tssk, Road Vehicle Lighting Regulations 1989

"25.- (1) Save as provided in paragraph (2), no person shall use, or
cause or permit to be used, on a road a vehicle which is fitted with
obligatory dipped-beam headlamps unless every such lamp is kept lit-"


Presumably there's another clause that defines "such lamps" to include
all(?) the vehicle's lights, not just the dipped headlights.

Otherwise all it's saying is that if you have dipped headlights you must
always have them alight. (Which doesn't make sense either).
--
Roland Perry

Basil Jet[_2_] May 7th 11 12:59 PM

Black cab highway code
 
On 2011\05\07 11:03, Steve Firth wrote:


Which means all those tools who drive around on sidelights are not
legal.


I thought driving with sidelights was legal if the road has streetlamps,
which many motorways do.


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