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On 27/07/2011 13:33, Martin L wrote:
On Jul 26, 11:18 pm,
wrote:
On 25/07/2011 13:55, Martin L wrote:





On Jul 23, 7:02 pm, Chris wrote:
Walked along the prom from Brighton last week, and ended up at
Fishersgate.

From the platforms, it is possible to see the neighbouring stations of
Southwick and Portslade. As in, you can see the outlines of the
platforms and watch trains approach, call at and leave both stations
reasonably clearly. Whilst my vision was excellent as a teenager, it
is little better than average now.

There are quite a few cases where one neighbouring station is visible
- indeed, I can see the buffer stops at Seaford from Bishopstone.
However, away from the Underground and light rail/tram systems, I
can't off hand think of another example where two neighbouring
stations are visible.

So, any other examples?

I've a dim memory of waiting for a train a long time ago at a station,
probably in north London, and realising that I could see all the way
through a tunnel to the next station. I'm not 100% certain that I
could actually see the platforms - it might just be that I could see a
train stopped in the next station. I'm thinking that it was probably
the tunnel between Hampstead Heath and Finchley Road& Froghal on the
North London Line. If this is the case, might you also be able to see
West Hampstead from Finchley Road& Frognal?

Martin L

If we're talking about LU,

I wasn't - I was referring to the North London Line, which isn't part
of the Underground - but is now part of London Overground.

Speaking of which, as it's no longer part of LU can we now include the
East London Line in this discussion, and if so does it have any
possibilties? Wapping, Rotherhithe, Canada Water and Surrey Quays are
all pretty close but I don't know how straight or level the tunnels
are.

Martin L

I don't see why not. The group is uk.transport.london, after all, and
not just about LUL.

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In article ,
lid () wrote:

Although there is a gradient on the Central, you can see Holborn from
Chancery Lane (EB) Albeit by ducking slightly...

Holborn isn't one of the original Central London Railway stations. It was
moved from British Museum.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

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" wrote in message
...
Although there is a gradient on the Central, you can see Holborn from
Chancery Lane (EB) Albeit by ducking slightly...



wrote in message ...

On 25/07/2011 13:55, Martin L wrote:
On Jul 23, 7:02 pm, Chris wrote:
Walked along the prom from Brighton last week, and ended up at
Fishersgate.

From the platforms, it is possible to see the neighbouring stations of
Southwick and Portslade. As in, you can see the outlines of the
platforms and watch trains approach, call at and leave both stations
reasonably clearly. Whilst my vision was excellent as a teenager, it
is little better than average now.

There are quite a few cases where one neighbouring station is visible
- indeed, I can see the buffer stops at Seaford from Bishopstone.
However, away from the Underground and light rail/tram systems, I
can't off hand think of another example where two neighbouring
stations are visible.

So, any other examples?

I've a dim memory of waiting for a train a long time ago at a station,
probably in north London, and realising that I could see all the way
through a tunnel to the next station. I'm not 100% certain that I
could actually see the platforms - it might just be that I could see a
train stopped in the next station. I'm thinking that it was probably
the tunnel between Hampstead Heath and Finchley Road& Froghal on the
North London Line. If this is the case, might you also be able to see
West Hampstead from Finchley Road& Frognal?

Martin L

If we're talking about LU, then what about Oxford Circus to Tottenham
Court Road, eastbound?

Turnham Green to Stamford Brook, District Line
You can see Barnes Bridge from Chiswick on the Hounslow loop but it's the
bridge not the station!

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On 27/07/2011 14:33, none wrote:
On 27/07/11 14:04, d wrote:
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 04:36:48 -0700 (PDT)
wrote:
If we're talking about LU, then what about Oxford Circus to Tottenham
Court Road, eastbound?

No, the Central Rises as it enters stations, then descends leaving
them. It was built this way in order to aid acceleration and
braking. The stations, in effect, are at the top of "underground
hills"

Why isn't this done any more - eg jubilee, victoria lines? It seems to
be a
simple way to save energy.

B2003

Unfortunately the modern way is to get 'new blood' which means that
previous good practice, lessons learnt, or even basic skills are forgotten.

I think there might a good reason why the Jubilee Line was built by
different people to the Central Line.
--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

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On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 21:27:38 +0100, "
wrote:

On 27/07/2011 14:53, wrote:
Although there is a gradient on the Central, you can see Holborn from
Chancery Lane (EB) Albeit by ducking slightly...



wrote in message ...

On 25/07/2011 13:55, Martin L wrote:
On Jul 23, 7:02 pm, Chris wrote:
Walked along the prom from Brighton last week, and ended up at
Fishersgate.

From the platforms, it is possible to see the neighbouring stations of
Southwick and Portslade. As in, you can see the outlines of the
platforms and watch trains approach, call at and leave both stations
reasonably clearly. Whilst my vision was excellent as a teenager, it
is little better than average now.

There are quite a few cases where one neighbouring station is visible
- indeed, I can see the buffer stops at Seaford from Bishopstone.
However, away from the Underground and light rail/tram systems, I
can't off hand think of another example where two neighbouring
stations are visible.

So, any other examples?

I've a dim memory of waiting for a train a long time ago at a station,
probably in north London, and realising that I could see all the way
through a tunnel to the next station. I'm not 100% certain that I
could actually see the platforms - it might just be that I could see a
train stopped in the next station. I'm thinking that it was probably
the tunnel between Hampstead Heath and Finchley Road& Froghal on the
North London Line. If this is the case, might you also be able to see
West Hampstead from Finchley Road& Frognal?

Martin L

If we're talking about LU, then what about Oxford Circus to Tottenham
Court Road, eastbound?


That's what I said. I mean, you can at least see a waiting train's
headlights at Oxford Circus whilst waiting at the west end of an
esatbound platform at TCR.

Are there any other places on LUL, or even on NR within London, where
two stations are easily visible from other?

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*From:* "
*Date:* Wed, 27 Jul 2011 21:27:38 +0100

On 27/07/2011 14:53, wrote:
Although there is a gradient on the Central, you can see Holborn
from
Chancery Lane (EB) Albeit by ducking slightly...



wrote in message ...

On 25/07/2011 13:55, Martin L wrote:
On Jul 23, 7:02 pm, Chris wrote:
Walked along the prom from Brighton last week, and ended up at
Fishersgate.

From the platforms, it is possible to see the neighbouring
stations of
Southwick and Portslade. As in, you can see the outlines of the
platforms and watch trains approach, call at and leave both
stations
reasonably clearly. Whilst my vision was excellent as a
teenager, it
is little better than average now.

There are quite a few cases where one neighbouring station is
visible
- indeed, I can see the buffer stops at Seaford from
Bishopstone.
However, away from the Underground and light rail/tram systems,
I
can't off hand think of another example where two neighbouring
stations are visible.

So, any other examples?

I've a dim memory of waiting for a train a long time ago at a
station,
probably in north London, and realising that I could see all the
way
through a tunnel to the next station. I'm not 100% certain that I
could actually see the platforms - it might just be that I could
see a
train stopped in the next station. I'm thinking that it was
probably
the tunnel between Hampstead Heath and Finchley Road& Froghal on
the
North London Line. If this is the case, might you also be able
to see
West Hampstead from Finchley Road& Frognal?

Martin L

If we're talking about LU, then what about Oxford Circus to
Tottenham
Court Road, eastbound?


That's what I said. I mean, you can at least see a waiting train's
headlights at Oxford Circus whilst waiting at the west end of an
esatbound platform at TCR.

Are there any other places on LUL, or even on NR within London,
where two stations are easily visible from other?

Oval to Kennington both

West Finchley to Woodside Park both

Although no longer a station, I seem to remember that Angel NB (before the
diversion) could just be seen from City Road - there is no dip departing
City Road and the approach to Angel is flat.

These are sightings from the cab, which would be about two feet from the
edge of the platform looking ahead, rather than trying to peer from the
platform edge at an angle, which may make a difference, and also the
driver's line of vision would be slightly lower. Obviously, unless there
are line of sight obstructions, an open section platform is usually much
easier to see in the distance than in a tunnel section.


Roger

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In message of Thu, 28
Jul 2011 08:46:34 in uk.transport.london,
writes

[snip]
Oval to Kennington both

West Finchley to Woodside Park both

Although no longer a station, I seem to remember that Angel NB (before the
diversion) could just be seen from City Road - there is no dip departing
City Road and the approach to Angel is flat.

These are sightings from the cab, which would be about two feet from the
edge of the platform looking ahead, rather than trying to peer from the
platform edge at an angle, which may make a difference, and also the
driver's line of vision would be slightly lower. Obviously, unless there
are line of sight obstructions, an open section platform is usually much
easier to see in the distance than in a tunnel section.

Mile End and Bow Road eastbound are mutually visible. I've never looked
westbound.
--
Walter Briscoe

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In message , Charles Ellson
writes

Are there any other places on LUL, or even on NR within London, where
two stations are easily visible from other?

On National Rail, you can see Mortlake station from the platforms at
North Sheen and, in the opposite direction, you can also just about see
Richmond from North Sheen.
--
Paul Terry

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On Jul 27, 9:27*pm, "
wrote:
On 27/07/2011 14:53, wrote:





Although there is a gradient on the Central, you can see Holborn from
Chancery Lane (EB) Albeit by ducking slightly...

wrote in ...

On 25/07/2011 13:55, Martin L wrote:
On Jul 23, 7:02 pm, Chris wrote:
Walked along the prom from Brighton last week, and ended up at
Fishersgate.

From the platforms, it is possible to see the neighbouring stations of
Southwick and Portslade. As in, you can see the outlines of the
platforms and watch trains approach, call at and leave both stations
reasonably clearly. Whilst my vision was excellent as a teenager, it
is little better than average now.

There are quite a few cases where one neighbouring station is visible
- indeed, I can see the buffer stops at Seaford from Bishopstone.
However, away from the Underground and light rail/tram systems, I
can't off hand think of another example where two neighbouring
stations are visible.

So, any other examples?

I've a dim memory of waiting for a train a long time ago at a station,
probably in north London, and realising that I could see all the way
through a tunnel to the next station. I'm not 100% certain that I
could actually see the platforms - it might just be that I could see a
train stopped in the next station. I'm thinking that it was probably
the tunnel between Hampstead Heath and Finchley Road& Froghal on the
North London Line. If this is the case, might you also be able to see
West Hampstead from Finchley Road& Frognal?

Martin L

If we're talking about LU, then what about Oxford Circus to Tottenham
Court Road, eastbound?

That's what I said. I mean, you can at least see a waiting train's
headlights at Oxford Circus whilst waiting at the west end of an
esatbound platform at TCR.

Are there any other places on LUL, or even on NR within London, where
two stations are easily visible from other?

Between Turnham Graeen and Ravenscourt Park several stations are
visible from each other.

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On Jul 28, 3:36*pm, Paul Terry wrote:
In message , Charles Ellson
writes

Are there any other places on LUL, or even on NR within London, where
two stations are easily visible from other?

On National Rail, you can see Mortlake station from the platforms at
North Sheen and, in the opposite direction, you can also just about see
Richmond from North Sheen.
--
Paul Terry

Although not in London, another example is Caldicot and Severn Tunnel
Junction, which are clearly visible from each other. Other examples
that I don't think have been mentioned a Royal Oak and Paddington
(is this cheating?), South Greenford and Castle Bar Park, Denham and
Denham Golf Club, Hanwell and West Ealing, Highbury and Islington and
Canonbury and (IIRC) Harrow and Wealdstone and Headstone Lane. Eltham
Well Hall and Eltham Park was another pair.