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CIG_BIG_CIG January 4th 04 08:11 PM

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Hello all,

The disused tube stock discussion has gone silent so can I check with
those that know, what stock is where? I know there WERE 83ts at
Cockfosters, Sth Harrow and a few others (I see it is still at Neasden
- just about anyway) but what about the mk I 72ts around the place?

Is there anything around, anything that can be photted? I know the TFL
museum have some but have had a bad experience there so more
interested in the stuff thats around in something like its natural
habitat!

Also, I know that Wood Lane station has now been pulled down but are
there any other disused stations in danger of being pulled down?

Thanks in advance!

Robin Mayes January 4th 04 10:21 PM

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"CIG_BIG_CIG" wrote in message
om...
Hello all,

The disused tube stock discussion has gone silent so can I check with
those that know, what stock is where? I know there WERE 83ts at
Cockfosters, Sth Harrow and a few others (I see it is still at Neasden
- just about anyway) but what about the mk I 72ts around the place?

Is there anything around, anything that can be photted? I know the TFL
museum have some but have had a bad experience there so more
interested in the stuff thats around in something like its natural
habitat!


'72 stock units are at Hainault depot and Shoeburyness. They'll be difficult
to photograph, unless you manage to speak to the depot manager at Hainault
quickly as they are to be removed for scapping soon!



CIG_BIG_CIG January 5th 04 09:12 AM

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"Robin Mayes" wrote in message ...
"CIG_BIG_CIG" wrote in message
om...
Hello all,

The disused tube stock discussion has gone silent so can I check with
those that know, what stock is where? I know there WERE 83ts at
Cockfosters, Sth Harrow and a few others (I see it is still at Neasden
- just about anyway) but what about the mk I 72ts around the place?

Is there anything around, anything that can be photted? I know the TFL
museum have some but have had a bad experience there so more
interested in the stuff thats around in something like its natural
habitat!


'72 stock units are at Hainault depot and Shoeburyness. They'll be difficult
to photograph, unless you manage to speak to the depot manager at Hainault
quickly as they are to be removed for scapping soon!


You mean a decision has finally been made to scrap them? Who is the
depot manager at Hainualt and is he likely to be amenable? Have
previously got some photos off the platforms of them at Hainualt.
Also, how will they be removed from Hainault, by rail or by road?

Thanks again!

David Splett January 5th 04 12:45 PM

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"CIG_BIG_CIG" wrote in message
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Have previously got some photos off the platforms of them at Hainualt.


Not now possible, as they have now been moved to sidings at the Grange Hill
end of the depot, near the depot roadway.


Also, how will they be removed from Hainault, by rail or by road?


Almost certainly by road. (cf above!)



Robin Mayes January 5th 04 04:43 PM

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"CIG_BIG_CIG" wrote in message
om...

You mean a decision has finally been made to scrap them?


Yes, the missus had the bad luck in having to get agree from everyone to
agree to it.

Who is the depot manager at Hainualt and is he likely to be amenable?
Have previously got some photos off the platforms of them at Hainualt.


Not a clue! If you're local perhaps the local station staff could give you
some details. Otherwise Metronet are the infraco who 'own' Hainault depot,
perhaps they might be able to help.

Also, how will they be removed from Hainault, by rail or by road?


Almost certainly by road.



Robin Mayes January 5th 04 04:47 PM

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"CIG_BIG_CIG" wrote in message
om...

The disused tube stock discussion has gone silent so can I check with
those that know, what stock is where? I know there WERE 83ts at
Cockfosters, Sth Harrow and a few others (I see it is still at Neasden
- just about anyway) but what about the mk I 72ts around the place?


Apparently there are 2, 7 car trains of '72 stock at Acton that won't be
scrapped. Perhaps the engineering arpentices will be allowed to do a
scrapheap challenge on them!



Rob January 6th 04 09:24 AM

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"Robin Mayes" wrote in message
.. .

"CIG_BIG_CIG" wrote in message
om...

The disused tube stock discussion has gone silent so can I check with
those that know, what stock is where? I know there WERE 83ts at
Cockfosters, Sth Harrow and a few others (I see it is still at Neasden
- just about anyway) but what about the mk I 72ts around the place?


Apparently there are 2, 7 car trains of '72 stock at Acton that won't be
scrapped. Perhaps the engineering arpentices will be allowed to do a
scrapheap challenge on them!


In the rew place?



Ben Nunn January 6th 04 09:53 AM

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Unless I'm very much mistaken, it was CIG_BIG_CIG
), in message
who said:

Also, I know that Wood Lane station has now been pulled down but are
there any other disused stations in danger of being pulled down?



WHAT?!?!?

It was still there a few months ago last time I looked.

Very sad news indeed.

BTN



Stephen Furley January 6th 04 02:04 PM

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"Ben Nunn" wrote in message ...

It was still there a few months ago last time I looked.

Very sad news indeed.

BTN


Gone by November; photos here (bottom of page).

Richard J. January 6th 04 04:58 PM

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Ben Nunn wrote:
Unless I'm very much mistaken, it was CIG_BIG_CIG
), in message
who said:

Also, I know that Wood Lane station has now been pulled down but are
there any other disused stations in danger of being pulled down?



WHAT?!?!?

It was still there a few months ago last time I looked.

Very sad news indeed.


Perhaps you are not aware that the facade has been preserved for
restoration and display at the Acton Depot of London's Transport Museum.
See
http://tube.tfl.gov.uk/content/metro/03/0309/18/

--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)


simon January 11th 04 04:54 PM

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You mean a decision has finally been made to scrap them? Who is the
depot manager at Hainualt and is he likely to be amenable? Have
previously got some photos off the platforms of them at Hainualt.
Also, how will they be removed from Hainault, by rail or by road?


4 cars of 72 TS were removed from Hainault by road today
(sunday 11th January) - sorry no photos!


simon

David Splett January 11th 04 05:16 PM

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"simon" wrote in message
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4 cars of 72 TS were removed from Hainault by road today
(sunday 11th January) - sorry no photos!



Don't suppose you know when any of the remainder will depart? I wouldn't
mind photographing some of these trains on their final journey, especially
as the ones at Hainault are in reasonably good condition.



JDikseun January 12th 04 07:21 AM

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(simon) wrote in message . com...
You mean a decision has finally been made to scrap them? Who is the
depot manager at Hainualt and is he likely to be amenable? Have
previously got some photos off the platforms of them at Hainualt.
Also, how will they be removed from Hainault, by rail or by road?


4 cars of 72 TS were removed from Hainault by road today
(sunday 11th January) - sorry no photos!


simon


Saw them going down the Barkingside High Street. Cursed that I didn't
have my camera - I'd have been proud of a snap of a train heading down
the street.

JD

CIG_BIG_CIG January 12th 04 11:51 PM

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"Robin Mayes" wrote in message ...
"CIG_BIG_CIG" wrote in message
om...

The disused tube stock discussion has gone silent so can I check with
those that know, what stock is where? I know there WERE 83ts at
Cockfosters, Sth Harrow and a few others (I see it is still at Neasden
- just about anyway) but what about the mk I 72ts around the place?


Apparently there are 2, 7 car trains of '72 stock at Acton that won't be
scrapped. Perhaps the engineering arpentices will be allowed to do a
scrapheap challenge on them!


Anyone know about the 83ts at South Harrow, Neasden and Uxbridge? I
gather the Cockfosters units have gone.

Also there was some 1972ts at the Bakerloo Depot near Lambeth (name
escapes me) and also near Kensington (again depot name escapes me)
anyone know more?

David Splett January 16th 04 09:45 PM

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"CIG_BIG_CIG" wrote in message
om...
Anyone know about the 83ts at South Harrow, Neasden and Uxbridge? I
gather the Cockfosters units have gone.


As far as I know, there are still one or two trains at South Harrow and
Uxbridge sidings, and two trains stored in 32 and 33 sidings near
Cockfosters station. In addition to this, there are various cars stored in
the p-way sidings at Neasden depot (those already moved from Uxbridge and
South Harrow), which are in the (not particularly hurried) process of being
prepared for scrapping.

Also there was some 1972ts at the Bakerloo Depot near Lambeth (name
escapes me) and also near Kensington (again depot name escapes me)
anyone know more?


I believe that one unit remains stored at London Road depot; the one at
Lillie Bridge was there as of two Wednesdays ago. Apart from one or two
units stored at Acton Works, all the remaining stored 1972 stock is at
Shoeburyness AFAIK.



umpston January 17th 04 11:39 AM

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"David Splett" wrote in message ...
"CIG_BIG_CIG" wrote in message
om...
Anyone know about the 83ts at South Harrow, Neasden and Uxbridge? I
gather the Cockfosters units have gone.


As far as I know, there are still one or two trains at South Harrow and
Uxbridge sidings, and two trains stored in 32 and 33 sidings near
Cockfosters station. In addition to this, there are various cars stored in
the p-way sidings at Neasden depot (those already moved from Uxbridge and
South Harrow), which are in the (not particularly hurried) process of being
prepared for scrapping.

Also there was some 1972ts at the Bakerloo Depot near Lambeth (name
escapes me) and also near Kensington (again depot name escapes me)
anyone know more?


I believe that one unit remains stored at London Road depot; the one at
Lillie Bridge was there as of two Wednesdays ago. Apart from one or two
units stored at Acton Works, all the remaining stored 1972 stock is at
Shoeburyness AFAIK.


What happened to the one at Aldwych - it was removed from there lasy
year whilst filming took place using the preerved 1960ts unit, did it
not return?

Thomas Crame January 17th 04 06:04 PM

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"David Splett" wrote in message ...
"CIG_BIG_CIG" wrote in message
om...
Anyone know about the 83ts at South Harrow, Neasden and Uxbridge? I
gather the Cockfosters units have gone.


As far as I know, there are still one or two trains at South Harrow and
Uxbridge sidings, and two trains stored in 32 and 33 sidings near
Cockfosters station. In addition to this, there are various cars stored in
the p-way sidings at Neasden depot (those already moved from Uxbridge and
South Harrow), which are in the (not particularly hurried) process of being
prepared for scrapping.

Also there was some 1972ts at the Bakerloo Depot near Lambeth (name
escapes me) and also near Kensington (again depot name escapes me)
anyone know more?


I believe that one unit remains stored at London Road depot; the one at
Lillie Bridge was there as of two Wednesdays ago. Apart from one or two
units stored at Acton Works, all the remaining stored 1972 stock is at
Shoeburyness AFAIK.



There is still a four car unit at London Road (nicknamed the Gary Day
train by the infrastructure staff) but I think gets robbed for spares.

simon January 17th 04 06:08 PM

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What happened to the one at Aldwych - it was removed from there lasy
year whilst filming took place using the preerved 1960ts unit, did it
not return?


72 TS returned to Aldwych after the filming with the Cravens unit
It was there in Nov 2003 - I assume it is still there

Thomas January 17th 04 06:53 PM

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--


simon wrote in message . ..

What happened to the one at Aldwych - it was removed from there lasy
year whilst filming took place using the preerved 1960ts unit, did it
not return?


72 TS returned to Aldwych after the filming with the Cravens unit
It was there in Nov 2003 - I assume it is still there


I read somewhere that they have to run it up and down the branch to keep the
batteries charged. Anyone know when, how often, and which drivers get that
job?

Tom.

Tyne & Wear Metro Group:
http://groups.msn.com/tyneweartransportgroup




David Splett January 17th 04 08:05 PM

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"umpston" wrote in message
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What happened to the one at Aldwych - it was removed from there lasy
year whilst filming took place using the preerved 1960ts unit, did it
not return?


Oops, forgot that one! Yes, AFAIK, the 72ts did return to the Aldwych branch
after the 60ts left.



CIG_BIG_CIG January 18th 04 11:00 PM

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"David Splett" wrote in message ...
"CIG_BIG_CIG" wrote in message
om...
Anyone know about the 83ts at South Harrow, Neasden and Uxbridge? I
gather the Cockfosters units have gone.


As far as I know, there are still one or two trains at South Harrow and
Uxbridge sidings, and two trains stored in 32 and 33 sidings near
Cockfosters station. In addition to this, there are various cars stored in
the p-way sidings at Neasden depot (those already moved from Uxbridge and
South Harrow), which are in the (not particularly hurried) process of being
prepared for scrapping.

Also there was some 1972ts at the Bakerloo Depot near Lambeth (name
escapes me) and also near Kensington (again depot name escapes me)
anyone know more?


I believe that one unit remains stored at London Road depot; the one at
Lillie Bridge was there as of two Wednesdays ago. Apart from one or two
units stored at Acton Works, all the remaining stored 1972 stock is at
Shoeburyness AFAIK.


Are any of these trains photographable from public places? I know the
83ts at Cockfosters can be done off the train (any nearby footpaths?),
South Harrow has a bridge right by as well but the others I am not so
sure on, can anyone help? All photos will be for website purposes!!

Orienteer January 19th 04 08:44 AM

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"CIG_BIG_CIG" wrote in message
om...
"David Splett" wrote in message

...
"CIG_BIG_CIG" wrote in message
om...
Anyone know about the 83ts at South Harrow, Neasden and Uxbridge? I
gather the Cockfosters units have gone.


As far as I know, there are still one or two trains at South Harrow and
Uxbridge sidings, and two trains stored in 32 and 33 sidings near
Cockfosters station. In addition to this, there are various cars stored

in
the p-way sidings at Neasden depot (those already moved from Uxbridge

and
South Harrow), which are in the (not particularly hurried) process of

being
prepared for scrapping.

Also there was some 1972ts at the Bakerloo Depot near Lambeth (name
escapes me) and also near Kensington (again depot name escapes me)
anyone know more?


I believe that one unit remains stored at London Road depot; the one at
Lillie Bridge was there as of two Wednesdays ago. Apart from one or two
units stored at Acton Works, all the remaining stored 1972 stock is at
Shoeburyness AFAIK.


Are any of these trains photographable from public places? I know the
83ts at Cockfosters can be done off the train (any nearby footpaths?),
South Harrow has a bridge right by as well but the others I am not so
sure on, can anyone help? All photos will be for website purposes!!


There is still an 83 train in Uxbridge sidings, next to Sainsburys so quite
readily photographable. But it is covered in graffiti of course.



Boltar January 19th 04 01:54 PM

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"David Splett" wrote in message ...
"umpston" wrote in message
om...
What happened to the one at Aldwych - it was removed from there lasy
year whilst filming took place using the preerved 1960ts unit, did it
not return?


Oops, forgot that one! Yes, AFAIK, the 72ts did return to the Aldwych branch
after the 60ts left.



Just out of curoisity , why do they keep a 72ts down there? Are there no
3 car 73ts from the piccadilly itself or even newer 83ts that might last
longer that they could use for filming? What happens when that 72ts finally
packs up?

B2003

Spyke January 19th 04 02:20 PM

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Just out of curoisity , why do they keep a 72ts down there? Are there no
3 car 73ts from the piccadilly itself or even newer 83ts that might last
longer that they could use for filming? What happens when that 72ts finally
packs up?

Use ex IOW 38-stock? Those tube trains are built to last :-).
--
Spyke
Address is valid, but messages are treated as junk. The opinions I express do
not necessarily reflect those of the educational institution from which I post.

Steve Fitzgerald January 19th 04 03:35 PM

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In message ,
CIG_BIG_CIG writes
Anyone know about the 83ts at South Harrow, Neasden and Uxbridge? I
gather the Cockfosters units have gone.


Some of them (CFS units) did, there are still two full trains in the
east end sidings, can be seen off the end of the platforms - bit of a
mess now though.
--
Steve Fitzgerald has now left the building.
You will find him in London's Docklands, E16, UK
(please use the reply to address for email)

Steve Fitzgerald January 19th 04 03:38 PM

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In message , Thomas
writes

72 TS returned to Aldwych after the filming with the Cravens unit
It was there in Nov 2003 - I assume it is still there


I read somewhere that they have to run it up and down the branch to keep the
batteries charged. Anyone know when, how often, and which drivers get that
job?


I suspect it will be test train crews. We (Picc. drivers) don't 'know'
the Aldwych branch any more.
--
Steve Fitzgerald has now left the building.
You will find him in London's Docklands, E16, UK
(please use the reply to address for email)

David Splett January 23rd 04 10:36 PM

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"CIG_BIG_CIG" wrote in message
om...
Are any of these trains photographable from public places? I know the
83ts at Cockfosters can be done off the train (any nearby footpaths?),
South Harrow has a bridge right by as well but the others I am not so
sure on, can anyone help? All photos will be for website purposes!!


- The unit at London Road depot can clearly be seen from the perimeter wall;
either from Lambeth Road or St. George's Road. There's a "famous"
traffic-light equipment cabinet on St. George's Road from where many depot
photos have been taken, though you would need a decent zoom to get a good
pic of the 72ts from that particular place.

- The 83ts stored at Neasden Depot are all stored in the p-way sidings,
right next to the Quainton Street road-entrance to the depot. That/those
stored at Uxbridge can similarly be seen from York Road, or from the
deliveries road leading to Sainsbury's.

- The only public place to see the two trains stored in Cockfosters sidings
is from the station platforms, from where they are *very* distant.

- Some of the 72ts stored in Acton Works could also be easily photographed.
If you go into a small residential street called Park Place (off Gunnersbury
Avenue), at the far end of that is a sports ground, from where the stub of a
disused footpath runs leftwards. If you walk along this for a few hundred
metres, the 72ts (and some 62ts cars) are stored in the sidings to your
right.

- The unit at Lillie Bridge can be easily photographed from the West
Cromwell Road floyover; it's stored in a siding almost underneath the
flyover IIRC. It's also visible from trains passing on the West London Line.




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